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    Quote Originally Posted by Katydyd View Post
    Actually, what was said was "we waged war against poverty, not poor people." I remember because I actually thought that line was pretty good Apparently with some of the writing I'm at a huge advantage having never seen any Sorkin shows...it's all new to me
    Me too. I actually had no clue who he was, I just thought the show looked interesting. Honestly, the show's politics made very little impression on me. I thought the cast and the structure of the show (assuming they will continue "breaking" known news stories) was very engaging.
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    Re: The Newsroom (HBO)

    Quote Originally Posted by Poppy Fields View Post
    Post-Watergate, investigative journalists were folk heroes. The profession of journalism was respected in a way it is not now. News was not "entertainment" but information and the best of it was unbiased. I think that is Sorkin's message.
    I think one of the common beefs from critics about the show has to do with this. There's a lot of romanticizing that era of unbiased journalism, but the show itself is Sorkin's typical preachiness that, yes, tends to be pretty liberal. I'm a liberal myself, but I can see the point the critics are making.
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    I finally got around to watching the first episode. I was really excited about this show, because I've always loved Aaron Sorkin shows. Sportsnight is still one of my favorite shows of all time. I really loved West Wing, and thought Studio 60 was cancelled entirely too soon. I want to love this show. But I kept on watching it thinking that Aaron Sorkin was following his West Wing formula WAY too close. When West Wing premiered, it introduced the akward dynamic of the consultant who had been hired to come into the White House, who was the ex lover of a staff member. Once again here, we've got the akward dynamic of the new employee brought in to the news room who is the ex lover of the anchor man. There were several other things that to me I just felt like I could say "Oh, okay, so this is the Josh and Donna characters ... this guy will be Leo ..." etc. There were so many similairities that I started trying to figure out how many episodes it would be until a crazy guy from West Virginia tries to shoot Jeff Daniel's character. I kind of think the problem with Aaron Sorkin is that he started believing and relying on his own hype too much. With Sportsnight, and the early days of West Wing, he'd tell stories with great plot lines, and every now and then a plot would lend itself to a character making a big speech about things happening in the world right now wher the audience would say "YES!!!" I think that Sorkin enjoyed the "YES!!!" moments so much that he started writing big lofty speeches about what was happening in the world today, and trying to shoe horn them into plot lines. I'll listen to what Sorkin thinks of the world while he's telling me a great story. But I want the story to come first, and I don't think he's doing that anymore.

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    I just finished watching, I've only seen 1 other Sorkin show (Studio 60) and loved it. It was cancelled out of hand IMO. I agree with every word of the panel tirade... but I am a socialist Canadian so that's no surprise I loved the pace of the show and the pace of the dialogue. I can't wait to see more.
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    Re: The Newsroom (HBO)

    Renewed for Season 2 after its second airing.
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    I love Maggie. She's hilarious - the press aide; race to the finish story was just so funny
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poppy Fields View Post
    We watched it again last night and picked up on several thngs we missed upon viewing it the first time. That's usually a sign, to me, that the writing and acting are complex and deeply engaging. DH interrupted his viewing of the Phillies v. Pirates to watch a 2nd time, which rather amazed me. He never misses a Phillies game.

    As a lifetime Phillies fan who has weathered both the good seasons and the bad, I completely understand why your DH was able to interrupt his viewing of the game! Watching their play this season has been painful!
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    Re: The Newsroom (HBO)

    Quote Originally Posted by mushybrain View Post
    As a lifetime Phillies fan who has weathered both the good seasons and the bad, I completely understand why your DH was able to interrupt his viewing of the game! Watching their play this season has been painful!
    Truly. They are breaking my heart this season. The Newsroom, as much as I enjoy it, doesn't begin to compensate on a Sunday night when the bats are silent.
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    I have to be honest, my eyes are starting to glaze over when they're talking about the 'news story'. I love the situations and the interpersonal exchanges (really loving those) but I'm not in love with this show, it's not 'must see' for me
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    I thought this past Sunday's episode was the best yet. It seems to mark a turning point: Will is no longer the flaming di*khead everyone is afraid of. He's come to be influenced in the best possible positive way by everyone on his team. They seem to have brought out the best in him - including MacKenzie. They now have his total loyalty.

    I thought this turn of events to be rather sudden until DH pointed out the time line for me. Months have lapsed between the current episode and the last. He didn't pick up on this because of the dates of events they are reporting, but because Mac tells the Victoria's Secret Economist that she's been watching her for months and still never gets what she's talking about.
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