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    I'm so happy that Ivy said goodbye to Derick. She was calm, honest and blunt. I'm so happy for her. She's so much better than Derick. AND she was right about him having a wandering appendage. So, he slept on the couch and nothing happened with Karen.......lol. Makes perfect sense. The writers couldn't tarnish perfect Karen like that. She has to be the perfect character. So not working for me. Even with all that happened last night, she still couldn't muster more than her standard three expressions.

    Eileen pushed her ex to go and support Hit List. I knew that would happen when she threw the drink into his face again, this time for no real reason. It didn't make her look as smart as we know she is . I'll chalk that up to crappy writing too.

    I hear there is a drinking game for when Jimmy runs out of the room.

    I loved the song that Tom sang to Kyle. He doesn't have the best vocals, but that didn't matter.

    I would really want the show to continue if the writing, character development and casting could improve next season, but I don't see any indication that that is likely. Maybe just a nice send off is enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by echo226 View Post
    What happened. Did he quit the show?

    The way things are happening on the show ... my gut feeling us that it's finished after this season. Too bad.
    You mean, what happened to the actor? The character, Kyle, was killed off by being hit by a car when he went looking for Jimmy to talk him down. Don't know about the actor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by echo226 View Post
    What happened. Did he quit the show?

    The way things are happening on the show ... my gut feeling us that it's finished after this season. Too bad.
    Oh, it's finished. They moved it to the "graveyard," aka Saturday night and have done NO promotion since then. It's canceled, even if they haven't made it official. The ratings are even worse on Saturday than they were on Tuesday. I suspect they're only keeping it on the air for a lack of anything else AND (more likely) because of the Spielberg name.

    I loved hearing "Vienna" last night. It's my favorite Billy Joel song. Always makes me teary.

    Why did Scott have to turn out to be a schemer? I was hoping he'd be a chance for Julia to move on and not be so co-dependent with Tom.

    It seems criminal that the show has not one, but TWO former stars of Rent and neither have sung a note yet...and they probably won't. I care less about Daphne Rubin-Vega (she was my least favorite voice from that show), but I can't believe they hired JLM and haven't had him show off that beautiful voice.

    Kinda bummed that Karen and Derek didn't hook up. I think that is a healthier relationship than the ones they've been in. You can't tell me that Derek isn't a better choice for her than Jimmy and Derek and Ivy always seemed like a relationship of convenience. Plus, Jack Davenport is just too hot to make is plausible for Karen to turn him down.
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    I thought this show was Splash, which I think is a reality show about diving. I wasn't paying close attention. I haven't seen even one promo about Smash. Maybe the ratings aren't good because most people don't know what this show is about.

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    The promo'ed the hell out of it before the premiere last year. If you watched NBC at all, you saw previews for it. It was only after the show premiered and it didn't bring in huge ratings that NBC blew the show off.
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    I tried to find this video several weeks back when we were talking about the Diva role being based on Pink and Karen's friend not being up to the task, but I couldn't find it.

    This is my all-time favorite performance by anyone anywhere!

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    Has anyone figured out what the "plot" of the new show is? I can follow Bombshell, because I know MM's life more or less, but for the other show all I get is that there's a girl (Karen) who becomes a star and leaves her old boyfriend (Jimmy) behind, or something. And there's a diva who I assume is in conflict with the girl, as the rising star.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PWS View Post
    Has anyone figured out what the "plot" of the new show is? I can follow Bombshell, because I know MM's life more or less, but for the other show all I get is that there's a girl (Karen) who becomes a star and leaves her old boyfriend (Jimmy) behind, or something. And there's a diva who I assume is in conflict with the girl, as the rising star.
    Originally, I think the story was just about the girl stealing the boy's songs and using them to become a star. The diva was kind of a subplot with the girl wanting to be like her and eventually becoming bigger. Now, the story has shifted and become more about the diva, whose career is on a downturn, feeling threatened by the new girl and killing her. (At least that's what I've gotten from it.) And somewhere in there, I think the girl and the boy are maybe on the verge of reuniting when she is killed.
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    I think Hit List is confusing too. Thanks for that explanation.

    Even with sympathy for his dead friend, I don't think I can stomach Jimmy to watch him in a performance.

    How many more episodes are left for this season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss_Griss View Post
    Originally, I think the story was just about the girl stealing the boy's songs and using them to become a star. The diva was kind of a subplot with the girl wanting to be like her and eventually becoming bigger. Now, the story has shifted and become more about the diva, whose career is on a downturn, feeling threatened by the new girl and killing her. (At least that's what I've gotten from it.) And somewhere in there, I think the girl and the boy are maybe on the verge of reuniting when she is killed.
    Hmmmmm. I never quite got the plot either.... but that explanation is somewhat like the Ivy/Karen story isn't it? Ivy didn't kill Karen, but she slept with Derek in an effort to get the role and also slept with Karen's fiance' . That's a different kind of gun, I guess.

    A lot of people felt bad for Ivy and thought she deserved the role of MM. I never did because they didn't make her a sympathetic or even likable character in my opinion. I think Derek is a good director and realized from the beginning that Karen was the better fit for the role if only because of her seeming naivete.
    BUT I think they are also trying to make Ivy's back story very similar to that of MM.

    Bottom line is that the plot of Smash itself may be too complex ... or as it's said, trying to fit ten pounds in a five pound bag.
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