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    Re: Law & Order: SVU

    I like ballbuster Christine Lahti as the new ADA...should make for some good drama. Elliot calls her a sanctimonious bitch in the previews for next week.

    And yep, absolutely loved Wentworth Miller in the premiere!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeepItReal;3712070;
    Agreed. Hated that the innocent man has to stay in jail. That fruitcake cop drove me crazy throughout the show, and the new ADA has got to become more likeable as the season progresses. She just does not leave you with the feeling that she pursues justice as vigorously as the past ADAs in the L&O franchise have.
    Well, if the ADA is really there because in the past the team has screwed up too many cases for when they went to trial then she has a point, and she IS concerned with justice being done. However, I don't think we've been shown many (any?) cases where the team was responsible for the bad guys getting off, have we? I'm sure there were a couple, but not tons. So that doesn't follow very well from our experience.

    Wentworth did a really good crazy cop.... You definitely would not want him on your squad, no matter how understandable his rage at meth heads is. And not that he isn't still adorable (Prison Break fan, here) but he does seem to have put on a few pounds.

    I hope at some point Elliot is shown trying to appeal to the govenor... or working with Innocence Project people....to get that guy out. Surely you can use hearsay when someone is dead and there are multiple witnesses to the confession and a tape? Especially if he gets the victim involved....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PWS;3712287;
    Well, if the ADA is really there because in the past the team has screwed up too many cases for when they went to trial then she has a point, and she IS concerned with justice being done. However, I don't think we've been shown many (any?) cases where the team was responsible for the bad guys getting off, have we? I'm sure there were a couple, but not tons. So that doesn't follow very well from our experience.

    Wentworth did a really good crazy cop.... You definitely would not want him on your squad, no matter how understandable his rage at meth heads is. And not that he isn't still adorable (Prison Break fan, here) but he does seem to have put on a few pounds.

    I hope at some point Elliot is shown trying to appeal to the govenor... or working with Innocence Project people....to get that guy out. Surely you can use hearsay when someone is dead and there are multiple witnesses to the confession and a tape? Especially if he gets the victim involved....

    One of the Exceptions to the Hearsay Rules is the "Dying Declaration" in which a perp knows she/he is dying and makes a confession.

    This confession can be used in court--to implicate others in the cime for example.

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    One of the Exceptions to the Hearsay Rules is the "Dying Declaration" in which a perp knows she/he is dying and makes a confession.

    This confession can be used in court--to implicate others in the cime for example.
    So I guess the question is, did he know he was dying (aka, did he plan to kill himself by jumping out the window, or did he get thrown?)?

    Suppose he'd been killed in a car accident? They couldn't use it? That's nuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PWS;3712287;
    Well, if the ADA is really there because in the past the team has screwed up too many cases for when they went to trial then she has a point, and she IS concerned with justice being done. However, I don't think we've been shown many (any?) cases where the team was responsible for the bad guys getting off, have we? I'm sure there were a couple, but not tons. So that doesn't follow very well from our experience.
    What I'm referring to is we've seen Cabot, and certainly McCoy, walk the fine line in certain instances that struck a particular cord with them. This ADA gives the impression that she doesn't play ball that way. It means we have to wait and see how strictly she follows the letter of the law and how often she's willing to show mercy when dealing with special circumstance cases as we've seen Cabot do (can't think of who else has done it, but I remember an instance or two where Cabot has). I'm sure it's only a matter of time before we grow to love her...though I think we'll learn to hate her first.
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    So I guess the question is, did he know he was dying (aka, did he plan to kill himself by jumping out the window, or did he get thrown?)?

    Suppose he'd been killed in a car accident? They couldn't use it? That's nuts.
    PWS--hi. I didn't get to see that episode yet so I was making a general statement about the admissability of a Dying Declaration as an Exception to the Hearsay Rule.

    So--in the story he had NOT yet incured the injuries that killed him?

    Hm--I believe the rule indicates that the person has to actually be dying--and they have to know and acknowledge they are dying (you have to ask them if they realize they are dying if you are trying to get a confession) when they make the confession.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind Dancer;3713819;
    PWS--hi. I didn't get to see that episode yet so I was making a general statement about the admissability of a Dying Declaration as an Exception to the Hearsay Rule.

    So--in the story he had NOT yet incured the injuries that killed him?

    Hm--I believe the rule indicates that the person has to actually be dying--and they have to know and acknowledge they are dying (you have to ask them if they realize they are dying if you are trying to get a confession) when they make the confession.
    No, he's perfectly healthy when he confesses...there's a video and some cop witnesses AND the woman who accused the wrong man sees the confession which is quite detailed. He then asks to use the bathroom before they leave for jail...and is escorted by a kind of out of control cop...next we hear a crash of glass and he's lying on the pavement dead. So, did he plan to jump when asked for the men's room? Or did the cop toss him? It could be either the way it was set up.
    So is it a dying confession if a person is planning to kill himself when he makes it? What if he'd already taken poison but it hasn't worked yet?

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    Re: Law & Order: SVU

    Last night's episode was the first one I really watched this season.
    I knew Christine Lahti was taking a new role....and I have to say as much as I like her as an actress and other things she has done....I am NOT liking her or her character on SVU.

    There was waaaayyyy too much camera time with her and Elliot last night and not enough Olivia.

    And what in the world did she (CL) do to her face?? Her close-ups were beyond scary. It looks like she went to the same plastic surgeon as Priscilla Presley.

    Another thing....why is Mariska Hargitay recognized for her acting on SVU and never Christopher Meloni?? He IS this show. And his scenes on this episode....especially the ones where he spent time in solitary confinement....were fantastic.

    Emmy nom for him please!

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    I like both Mariska and Chris on this show, but I've always felt he was never recognized for it like he should be. His scenes in solitary were so real, it was scary.
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    He has been nominated in the past for his work on SVU. I think he got shafted by not getting a nomination for his work in Oz, which was simply outstanding. That had to be the role of his career.

    I continue to love Christine Lahti and now I don't think that I care if Cabot comes back. I didn't think she looked like she had bad plastic surgery, though, I thought she looked like she hadn't had any.

    Can someone PLEASE tell me what happened in the last 5 minutes last night? I was a bit under the weather yesterday and unbelievably, I fell asleep just before the end.
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