Harper's Island

[Mike'sgirl]

Originally Posted by MisterSSS

[[According to the producer's Twitter, JD is D-E-A-D along with everyone else who presumably died. That includes Booth and Chloe and their "maybe they're still alive?" theories

The flashback with a young JD makes sense, because, well, JD was alive back then.]]

Thank you for the reminder from Karim! Yay, I get to post something non-spoilerish!

I am still leaning toward Henry as my first pick, Sully maybe, Jimmy - still think red herring.

What we seem to forget is that we may not have all the information necessary to make an educated guess, the reasons "why" will probably not be learned until Episode 13, or at earliest end of 12. So, even though I have written all the females off, the killer may even be among them.

At the start of this thread, and a couple times, since I have wondered about Henry...... at the time of the Wakefield murders - I questioned Henry being on the dock to help with Cole (news article discussed on the show way back when); that Henry's parents were dead, and JD needed to go live with Uncle Marty... how did both parents die? accident, made to look like an accident? unsolved murder? Interesting that the father of Henry and JD would go and visit Cole in the hospital, bring little JD with him........ what secrets lie there?

I don't know, I am still finding it hard to believe that Henry is a good guy, and still can't forget Henry with JD's blood on him at the dock, JD's last words to Abby's "who did this to you JD?" His answer, it's all about you Abby......

If it isn't Henry, I will be a little disappointed, but entirely alright with it just as long as Jimmy is NOT the killer.

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[marlap]

Originally Posted by Twiddler

[[Darn you and your Vulcan logic! : I still think it's Sully, though. ]]

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Originally Posted by MisterSSS

[[According to the producer's Twitter, JD is D-E-A-D along with everyone else who presumably died. That includes Booth and Chloe and their "maybe they're still alive?" theories

The flashback with a young JD makes sense, because, well, JD was alive back then.]]

Oh, I forgot about the Twitter! Thanks for the reminder...

Originally Posted by Mike'sgirl

Thank you for the reminder from Karim! Yay, I get to post something non-spoilerish!

I am still leaning toward Henry as my first pick, Sully maybe, Jimmy - still think red herring.

What we seem to forget is that we may not have all the information necessary to make an educated guess, the reasons "why" will probably not be learned until Episode 13, or at earliest end of 12. So, even though I have written all the females off, the killer may even be among them.

At the start of this thread, and a couple times, since I have wondered about Henry...... at the time of the Wakefield murders - I questioned Henry being on the dock to help with Cole (news article discussed on the show way back when); that Henry's parents were dead, and JD needed to go live with Uncle Marty... how did both parents die? accident, made to look like an accident? unsolved murder? Interesting that the father of Henry and JD would go and visit Cole in the hospital, bring little JD with him........ what secrets lie there?

I don't know, I am still finding it hard to believe that Henry is a good guy, and still can't forget Henry with JD's blood on him at the dock, JD's last words to Abby's "who did this to you JD?" His answer, it's all about you Abby......

If it isn't Henry, I will be a little disappointed, but entirely alright with it just as long as Jimmy is NOT the killer.

I think it may be Henry too... I agree, I really hope it's not Jimmy.

It really could be any of them though. Just let Jimmy and Abby survive so they can be together...

Part of me thinks it may be Sully or Danny because of the shot of them fighting in the finale previews.

I also still wonder about the cab driver...

[amantdechat]

I just really think it's Henry. My theory is

JD figured it out that Henry is helping Wakefield, thus not saying it was Henry when he was on his deathbed to protect his brother, but warned Abby that it was all about her, All about Henry's love for Abby. I think Abby is Wakefield's child. Henry cracked because Abby loves Jimmy, and went on a killing spree with Wakefield. Henry is always with Abby, if the love of my life was on that same island, I would never leave her side, especially with a psycho killer on the loose, He is always with Abby. There are tons of holes in my theory but I have said Henry all along (since beginning of the show) and am sticking with it. Thinking to myself, HENRY HENRY HENRY.....I'm going to go nuts by Saturday, well the spoilers will probably be up Thurs. since it airs in Canada.....4 more days.


Darn, now I'm thinking it's Trish.

[marlap]

Originally Posted by amantdechat

I just really think it's Henry. My theory is

JD figured it out that Henry is helping Wakefield, thus not saying it was Henry when he was on his deathbed to protect his brother, but warned Abby that it was all about her, All about Henry's love for Abby. I think Abby is Wakefield's child. Henry cracked because Abby loves Jimmy, and went on a killing spree with Wakefield. Henry is always with Abby, if the love of my life was on that same island, I would never leave her side, especially with a psycho killer on the loose, He is always with Abby. There are tons of holes in my theory but I have said Henry all along (since beginning of the show) and am sticking with it. Thinking to myself, HENRY HENRY HENRY.....I'm going to go nuts by Saturday, well the spoilers will probably be up Thurs. since it airs in Canada.....4 more days.


Darn, now I'm thinking it's Trish.

I'm really thinking it may be Henry now too...another clue that fits with your theory:

[[I just rewatched the very first episode and at the party when they are all talking about whether men and women can really "just be friends," one of the bridesmaids asks Abby "Didn't you and Henry every hook up?" and Abby never really answers one way or another.]]

[amantdechat]

I know, watch is not be Henry, but I'm still on the Henry is the killer train. we need more spoilers...

[tousselchick]

I have been away for 2 weeks since I havent been able to watch the last 2 episodes and I knew if I came here I would pop in here and read everything!

So, Im bummed that Wakefield is alive and I hope, hope, hope its not Henry or Jimmy...that would be no suprise or nothing new or different.

I dont think its Jimmy, The Sherriff brought him back to Abby and if he had any inkling that Jimmy was in cahoots with Wakefield he wouldnt even have done that.

I loved the Chloe death scene, it was beautiful. I loved that she took it away from Wakefield.

Im sad Maggie and Cal are both dead! CMON! I thought those 2 were the ones!!!!!!!

I guess I have no idea who is helping Wakefield and Im giving up and just going to sit back, relax and enjoy the flight.

[misskitty]

I havent' read all the speculation, but I agree it's all about Henry and Abby.

My guess is: [[ that Henry loves Abby but they can't be together because they are actually brother and sister! I think that Wakefield is their father but they have different mothers. Remember, Wakefield was angry that Abby looked just like her mother, who he killed. Abby's mother may have revealed to Wakefield, just before his first killing spree, that Abby was his daughter and therefore Henry and Abby (who may have started falling in love) could never be together! If Henry's happiness was at stake, (Wakefields secret son) that info might have made him ballistic as Wakefields' happiness was taken away by the Sheriff. Anyone follow me here? Then again. Maybe not. ]]

We have seen Wakefield kill and kill again. Question is, is he the only Killer, and the big question....Why?
=^.^=

[Mike'sgirl]

Originally Posted by misskitty

I havent' read all the speculation, but I agree it's all about Henry and Abby.

My guess is: [[ that Henry loves Abby but they can't be together because they are actually brother and sister! I think that Wakefield is their father but they have different mothers. Remember, Wakefield was angry that Abby looked just like her mother, who he killed. Abby's mother may have revealed to Wakefield, just before his first killing spree, that Abby was his daughter and therefore Henry and Abby (who may have started falling in love) could never be together! If Henry's happiness was at stake, (Wakefields secret son) that info might have made him ballistic as Wakefields' happiness was taken away by the Sheriff. Anyone follow me here? Then again. Maybe not. ]]

We have seen Wakefield kill and kill again. Question is, is he the only Killer, and the big question....Why?
=^.^=

I mentioned something similar upstream a ways. I could be mistaken, but I think you are fine posting your speculation based on what we have seen on the tube so far. If you knowledge is based on something other then this, or what was shown in the previews, then the spoiler tags are necessary. So, I think your good.

My guess is still with Henry in the lead, and he could also be Wakefield's son as you suggested - what we know for sure is that Abby read from his prison diary that a woman named Sarah had his child. There may be more then one woman involved, there may be more then one kid (ie from different women pregnant at same time), or it could be that Wakefield is crazy, and imagined that he fathered Abby, but really had a kid with someone else. The guy is loonytoons.

My second guess is still Sully, because to me he is less likely to be the killer, but has always been there in the background.
We don't know who killed JD yet. If Wakefield killed him, then his statement to Abby that it was all about her - would still hold. But, even more so if indeed, Henry killed his brother, and possibly even his parents........ I cannot wait for Thursday!!!!! Hoping someone from Canada will still do the honors of posting the show online for us to enjoy!!!!!

[misskitty]

I posted in spoilers because I wasn't sure what was or wasn't discussed and I didn't want to ruin anything if I was right, which never happens. I've actually changed my mind.

[[ It isn't that Henry and Abby are brother and sister; it's that Abby and Jimmy are brother and sister. Wakefield is Abby's father and Jimmy's father (from Sarah?) and since Abby came back, Wakefield can't stand that Abby will break Jimmy's heart again. She broke his heart by leaving the first time. Now she returns, and they're getting feelings back again, and Wakefield won't see his son hurt like Abby's mother hurt Wakefield.

Henry has not been hurt. Nor his fiancee. But Henry is responsible for bringing Abby back to the island because of his wedding. So Wakefield has attacked the wedding guests hoping they would call it all off and everyone would leave. But that didn't happen. They kept staying, even as more and more people were killed off.

This also explains why Wakefield did not kill Jimmy. Jimmy is his son. And he brought Jimmy's body back so he would be given first aid, and to show Abby the pain she is causing Jimmy (and Wakefield although she doesn't understand this).

I also think that Wakefield had no idea that Jimmy would be going to the docks. He expected someone else to get blown up. That's why Wakefield changed; he went ballistic and stopped abducting the guests to kill them, and started boldly confronting them and killiing them on the spot in front of each other. ]]

By George, I think I've got it!

[marlap]

Originally Posted by misskitty

I posted in spoilers because I wasn't sure what was or wasn't discussed and I didn't want to ruin anything if I was right, which never happens. I've actually changed my mind.

[[ It isn't that Henry and Abby are brother and sister; it's that Abby and Jimmy are brother and sister. Wakefield is Abby's father and Jimmy's father (from Sarah?) and since Abby came back, Wakefield can't stand that Abby will break Jimmy's heart again. She broke his heart by leaving the first time. Now she returns, and they're getting feelings back again, and Wakefield won't see his son hurt like Abby's mother hurt Wakefield.

Henry has not been hurt. Nor his fiancee. But Henry is responsible for bringing Abby back to the island because of his wedding. So Wakefield has attacked the wedding guests hoping they would call it all off and everyone would leave. But that didn't happen. They kept staying, even as more and more people were killed off.

This also explains why Wakefield did not kill Jimmy. Jimmy is his son. And he brought Jimmy's body back so he would be given first aid, and to show Abby the pain she is causing Jimmy (and Wakefield although she doesn't understand this).

I also think that Wakefield had no idea that Jimmy would be going to the docks. He expected someone else to get blown up. That's why Wakefield changed; he went ballistic and stopped abducting the guests to kill them, and started boldly confronting them and killiing them on the spot in front of each other. ]]

By George, I think I've got it!

Wow Miss Kitty! That's a great theory.

[[I hope it's not right though only because I really want Jimmy and Abby to be able to make a life together, expecially since her dad is dead now as well as her mom.]]


Here's who I think it for sure isn't:

[[Trish: because of the previews... her fearful face, and running from someone

Sully: because of the previews... he is helping Madison and her mom escape (this doesn't mean the mom isn't the killer however)

Madison: because of her age]]