Harper's Island

[ArchieComic Fan]

I just can't see any reason why the sheriff would trade his life for Jimmy's if he thought Jimmy was a threat to Abby. He had the file on him so he knows about whatever it is that Jimmy's done. Maybe Jimmy was able to gloss over the real facts and had the sheriff fooled. But I hope not, I don't want him to be an accomplice, nor do I want him to be related to Abby.

I agree that just because the sheriff said he's Abby's father doesn't mean he meant it in the biological sense. He also may have not wanted Abby to go through the rest of her life with the knowledge that she's the daughter of a serial killer. But Abby sure did jump on his proclamation and seems to be taking it at face value.

I don't think Shea or Madison are involved. But who knows anymore with this show.

It broke my heart the way Cal and Chloe ended up, although Chloe could have swung over to the other side of the fence before Wakefield got to her. I think she wanted to show Wakefield that she was going to die on her own terms, not his. I loved the song that was playing - it really added to the emotions of the scene. By far the "best" death scenes of the show yet. But I was wondering how Wakefield was able to grab Chloe in the church without her struggling and screaming. Even if he put his hand over her mouth I would have figured her to be a fighter and would have screamed, pushed, or did whatever she could to get free, even if he did have a knife to her. Hasn't she learned yet - never let a kidnapper take you to a secondary location if you can at all help it. Even if you have to die there in public, at least your family will know what happened to you and there might even be some witnesses.

It was very irritating how not one person could shoot straight and I was yelling at the screen when Trish grabbed the gun during Wakefield's fight with Shane but she never attempted to take a shot. She was much closer to him than any of the others who shot at and missed him. And why did they stay huddled up in the bathroom for so long? They had plenty of time to escape and yet waited until Wakefield was done with Shane.

Sometimes I think some of these people are so stupid I don't feel sorry for them when they die.

I hate having to wait two weeks for the resolution!

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[buttahfly]

man, and his wacko def showed this past episode. the ep was so wonderfully horrible, lol. i mean the way he was just spearing ppl up close and personal like that . . . . .

i thought for a moment chloe was his kid ewhen he did that little finger thing from him to her.

Originally Posted by Mike'sgirl

Actually, (and I could be wrong) but I don't remember that the journal specifically said he had a child with Abby's mom (although I think he might be Abby's natural father) the journal said something like "she had my child". We all assumed that "she" to be Abby's mom he was referring to, and even if that is correct - nothing to prevent him from having a child with someone else. Henry, if he is the killer - could have been mentored by Wakefield without being his son.

ETA: Just checked out CBS wiki and you are correct in that his prison diary does say "Sarah had my child" but if you read the journal - the guy is wacko!! He is so crazy, I have to say he could have imagined it. But, it is OK with me - maybe he won't kill Abby because he thinks it.

[buttahfly]

lol, i was wondering why on earth she was in that wedding dress too!

Originally Posted by lildago

I watched again tonight with my husband(he hates spoilers and refuses to watch it early) to see the Cal/Chloe scene again. Something I caught this time was that when Henry and Abby were off chasing Wakefield and sent Cal after Chloe, they came upon some tribal monument or something. Abby commented that she knew the place because she used to go there with Jimmy. Coincidence that Wakefield led her there?

In the previews, Trish is running through the woods in her wedding gown. Why on earth would she have that on? I've grown to like Trish's character and don't want her to be killed now. Oh, and where the hell are all the townspeople?

Someone over at the CBS board posted side by side photos of Wakefield and Sully. The resemblance is uncanny!

[pfeifferdcat]

Originally Posted by ArchieComic Fan

I just can't see any reason why the sheriff would trade his life for Jimmy's if he thought Jimmy was a threat to Abby.

I agree that just because the sheriff said he's Abby's father doesn't mean he meant it in the biological sense.

I don't think Shea or Madison are involved. But who knows anymore with this show.

It broke my heart the way Cal and Chloe ended up,

It was very irritating how not one person could shoot straight and I was yelling at the screen when Trish grabbed the gun during Wakefield's fight with Shane but she never attempted to take a shot.

Sometimes I think some of these people are so stupid I don't feel sorry for them when they die.

I hate having to wait two weeks for the resolution!

ACF, I agree with most of your points, except the 1st. I don't think that we know for sure that the Sheriff made a deal with Wakefield to save Jimmy. If Wakefield & Jimmy are working together, then he could have been on the truck willingly. The Sheriff was just in the hotel room, I don't remember him saying anything about saving Jimmy so he & Abby could be happy.
I was also irritated that no one shot Wakefield, I think they all had opportunity!
The Chloe/Cal death scene was touching. Loved how she said something about how Wakefield couldn't have her.

[ky-la]

Originally Posted by pfeifferdcat

ACF, I agree with most of your points, except the 1st. I don't think that we know for sure that the Sheriff made a deal with Wakefield to save Jimmy. If Wakefield & Jimmy are working together, then he could have been on the truck willingly. The Sheriff was just in the hotel room, I don't remember him saying anything about saving Jimmy so he & Abby could be happy.

He did.

[Twiddler]

Originally Posted by Mike'sgirl

It is on July 9th in Canada - 2 hrs.

Boann - all we know about Wakefield and child is that he wrote in his prison diary/journal that Sarah had his child. Sarah is the name of Abby's mother.
The sheriff said that he was her father, but that does not mean he is her biological father...... he could be, or perhaps Wakefield is.

In the previews we heard Wakefield yell to someone "Their getting away" ....... could refer to Shea and Madison in boat or anyone I guess; but the point is it showed that he is working with someone........

I know. But that's not this week.

[Mike'sgirl]

Originally Posted by ky-la

He did.

I agree, sorry pfeiffer you must have missed it. He said it as soon as Abby walked in and asked if Jimmy was alright, then said thank God he (Wakefield) kept his end of the bargain. Sheriff said he wanted for Abby to have a chance at a happy life, and offered himself up if Wakefield would let Jimmy live.

But, Jimmy could have us all fooled. Red herring turns out to be the killer. But, I would pick Henry as the killer over Jimmy.

Yes, a lot of hokey on this show, but it was promoted by it's showrunner as classic Horror/mystery. So, just as some of the old style corny stuff was laughable, I guess we are supposed to sit back and laugh. But I am not laughing.

[Boann]

Originally Posted by Mike'sgirl

all we know about Wakefield and child is that he wrote in his prison diary/journal that Sarah had his child. Sarah is the name of Abby's mother.
The sheriff said that he was her father, but that does not mean he is her biological father...... he could be, or perhaps Wakefield is.

In the previews we heard Wakefield yell to someone "Their getting away" ....... could refer to Shea and Madison in boat or anyone I guess; but the point is it showed that he is working with someone........

That's right about Sarah. I forgot - too many what if's running around in my brain. Good ears on the "They're getting away .." shout by Wakefield.

I think that I'm going to switch my prime and secondary suspects. Now Henry is my prime suspect and Jimmy if not Henry. In the previews I just rewatched Danny is fighting with a man with dark hair. The man is shown from behind and could be either Jimmy or Henry. If Wakefield and Henry are working together, then Wakefield could have made the text message to Henry to give him an alibi. Plus, I don't trust how much the previews are making this seem like Jimmy is the killer now.

[Mike'sgirl]

OK here is another Twitter spoiler from Karim (co-producer)
[[Trish gets in her wedding dress VOLUNTARILY...Wakefield's kid is revealed in episode 12...episode 12 will have more than 1 death, but less than 4 and Wakefield's back story is explained...the bag of money is explained in episode 13...the first 5 minutes of episode 12 will reveal why they haven't been able to shoot Wakefield...some murders were planned in advance (lucy, mrwellington, sherriff, shane, cal/chloe)while others are random (malcom, beth, nikki)...and the dead are DEAD, no coming back. ]]

ETA: Forgot to include this one [[ are you kidding, everything is a clue that leads to another clue that leads to another clue that leads to the killer.]]

[ArchieComic Fan]

Thanks Mike'sgirl! I haven't been reading spoilers for the last two episodes until after they aired but I couldn't resist reading this. And it doesn't really give too much away so I don't feel I've been spoiled. However, I will say this about your spoiler regarding [[the reason nobody has been able to shoot Wakefield. All the bullets are blanks! Whoever is working with Wakefield, or even Wakefield himself could have easily swapped out all the real ammo for fake. Except for what was in the gun that shot Booth of course . Hmm, just thought of something else. Trish voluntarily in dress = off her rocker? Plus, if she knows the bullets are blanks that would explain her not taking a close range shot at Wakefield - it would blow her cover. Me thinks it could be Trish! Do we know how Trish and Shae's mother died? Maybe she had an affair with Wakefield and produced Trish? Didn't Wakefield say something to Chloe that he almost died for a woman like her? Well no offense to Abby's mom but she wasn't exactly a real beauty in the class of Chloe. Maybe he was talking about the mother of his child? ]]