Harper's Island

[liz_momof2]

Originally Posted by Realitychick

What if the sheriff has been the killer all along... And John Wakefield was an easy target to blame... Since it was said that the sheriff killed John Wakefield, wouldn't it be easy to say that he killed him to plant the blame on him? Then stopped killing... But when his daughter came back to town the killing started again. I don't know if that makes sense but you never know.

Now, this is not all MY theory (I borrowed the Wakefield affair but the ending is all my theory) but I saw it on the CBS HI forum and I was like "whoa!" According to Harper's Globe, the reason that John Wakefield came back to the island was because years earlier (about 16/17 BEFORE his death) he was on the island and started an affair with the sheriff's wife/Abby's mom. When the sheriff found out, he "pinned" a crime on him and got him arrested and sent away. When Wakefield got out of prison, he came back to the island. Although it's not been stated, Wakefield found out that Abby is HIS daughter and confronted her mom and the sheriff. The sheriff lost his mind and went on the killing spree. Who is going to say the sheriff who is investigating the murders is really the killer and pinning yet another crime(s) on Wakefield, after all, he was already a known criminal to the long-time residents of the island. Wakefield found out and was trying to escape WITH Abby (his daughter) but the sheriff killed him before he was able to leave. A lot of what happened in the final moments Abby has blacked out of her memory because of post-traumatic stress etc. What I am not sure about is the current killings and the motives behind them, one part of me thinks that the sheriff is killing in rage again because Abby is back. BUT why go after everyone else and NOT Abby. And two, "rage" murders tend to be very violent and some of the murders that have gone on have been very thought out, i.e. the gun in the boat and the fire pit. So I am going with a relative of Wakefield's is back for the 2nd murders (who is undisclosed as of now but we have seen him/her) and that everyone but Abby and the sheriff will die and there will be a big confrontation scene at the end of the movie where everything comes out. Now if they want to end this with a "happy ending," Abby will kill the 2nd killer, the sheriff will go off to jail, and SURPRISE, Jimmy survived whatever his "death" was and they move off-island and never come back. If they want it to end with a "realistic ending," Abby goes a bit crazy when she finds out, kills both her "dad" and the 2nd killer and then kills herself or "jumps off the cliff" like her real dad's body.

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[Pickle_Juice]

Your post is one of the major reasons I watch shows along with others online. I would never have thought about it the way you have. Thanks! This pretty much knocks the Sheriff off my list, however, know that if it ends up being the Sheriff, I will come back to this post and question the story that was written. Your thoughts make perfect sense to me. How could it be him?

I have written Cal off as the killer too. How can it be him if people were dying while he was hung up in the forest?

I really feel as if it's Henry, Maggie, or Abby's ex, the local fisherman.

Originally Posted by marlap

Maggie is one of my top suspects too.


About the ink in the eyes...I don't think the sherrif is the killer because it shows him discovering the newsclipping with his eyes inked out and he is alone in the room.

You can't trust a pontential killer's expressions and reactions if another person is in the room because the killer could be "acting" to fool the people he or she is with at that moment.

But you can trust expressions if a person is alone. For that same reason, the barmaid Nikki is excluded as the killer because she was alone when outside knocking at Kelly's door. The killer would have known Kelly was dead and would not have knocked on the door or come to find Kelly unless the killer was in the company of another person.

One of the reasons Cal is one of the people I suspect is because of the total change to evil in his expresssion when Chloe was underwater and couldn't see his face.

So, the sherrif looking curiously over the news clippings with his flashlight while he was alone tells me he is not the killer.

Also...is there a connection to:

a) ink in Kelly's eyes
b) photo in clipping of sherrif's eyes inked over, and
c) cab driver with eye patch on???

Was John Wakefield partially blinded. Is the killer related to him?

[marlap]

Originally Posted by Pickle_Juice

Your post is one of the major reasons I watch shows along with others online. I would never have thought about it the way you have. Thanks! This pretty much knocks the Sheriff off my list, however, know that if it ends up being the Sheriff, I will come back to this post and question the story that was written. Your thoughts make perfect sense to me. How could it be him?

I have written Cal off as the killer too. How can it be him if people were dying while he was hung up in the forest?

I really feel as if it's Henry, Maggie, or Abby's ex, the local fisherman.

I totally agree, it's so much fun theorizing with other fans!

I actually read an interview with Agatha Christie who talked about not showing the killer do something out of character while alone, and that interview taught me how to look at mysteries for that specifucally.

The interview was about one of her mysteries in which the narrator ends up being the killer.

She said how mad everyone was about being "tricked" and Agatha defended herself by saying that never at any point did the killer/narrator do something to make you think he was innocent unless in the presence of other characters...because he was trying to fool the other characters.

So, I've tried to keep that in mind while watching this show. So, if Nikki the barmaid had been with a friend while knocking on Kelly's door as she hung dead inside, Nikki still has potential to be the killer...but because she was alone...there is no way she is the killer.

So yeah, I'll be mad at the writing if the sherrif is the killer too.

In fact, I'm already mad at the writing (a little anyway) because throughout the whole day after Lucy was burned alive, no on ever asked where she was!! The bride was even trying on her wedding dress and nobody said, "Where's Lucy? She needs to see this!"

Wasn't Lucy the maid of honor? But all day...at the pool, trying on dresses, at the little cocktail party...not one person wondered where Lucy was. All the writers had to do was have someone in the wedding party find a note (presumably that the killer placed) on Lucy's door saying she had a headache or a stomach ache or something and was going to stay in her room and try to sleep.

[Pickle_Juice]

Lucy, Beth, and Chloe are Trish's bridesmaids and Shae, Trish's sister, is her Maid of Honor. Madison is the flower girl.

Since Shae is married, wouldn't that make her a Maiden of Honor, or am I thinking backwards?

[liz_momof2]

Originally Posted by Pickle_Juice

Lucy, Beth, and Chloe are Trish's bridesmaids and Shae, Trish's sister, is her Maid of Honor. Madison is the flower girl.

Since Shae is married, wouldn't that make her a Maiden of Honor, or am I thinking backwards?

Technically, Shae would be the matron of honor because she is married. I was in a wedding last year where there was a matron of honor (me since I'm married) AND a maid of honor (bride's little sister who is single.)

[Pickle_Juice]

I was so close too! LOL Thanks!

I agree with the poster who was disappointed that no one noticed Lucy's absence during rather important wedding party events. The trying on of the bridal gown is HUGE and the bride would want her entire bridal party there to tell her she looks amazing. It was never mentioned that one of the bridesmaids was absent. Weird!

[liz_momof2]

Originally Posted by Pickle_Juice

I was so close too! LOL Thanks!

I agree with the poster who was disappointed that no one noticed Lucy's absence during rather important wedding party events. The trying on of the bridal gown is HUGE and the bride would want her entire bridal party there to tell her she looks amazing. It was never mentioned that one of the bridesmaids was absent. Weird!

I wondered about that too. Especially since they are all on the island and I would assume a lot of the "wedding details" are taken care of by the planner. It would be one thing if she didn't have a planner because a lot of the last minute details would be up to the attendants. And as you said, the trying on of the bridal gown is a huge deal and since all were in close proximity, I would definitely question where she was at.

[marlap]

Originally Posted by liz_momof2

I wondered about that too. Especially since they are all on the island and I would assume a lot of the "wedding details" are taken care of by the planner. It would be one thing if she didn't have a planner because a lot of the last minute details would be up to the attendants. And as you said, the trying on of the bridal gown is a huge deal and since all were in close proximity, I would definitely question where she was at.

Exactly! That's really the only thing abiut the show so far that has bugged me. Otherwise, so far I love it and can't wait for Thursdays/

[Starbucks880]

I also thought it weird no one noticed Lucy's absence. I also wonder where all these bodies are being hidden and when people will start figuring out that an awful lot of people are "missing" and something isn't right. But I do look forward to thursdays and can't wait for more episodes.

[liz_momof2]

Originally Posted by Starbucks880

I also thought it weird no one noticed Lucy's absence. I also wonder where all these bodies are being hidden and when people will start figuring out that an awful lot of people are "missing" and something isn't right. But I do look forward to thursdays and can't wait for more episodes.

The lack of bodies are not a huge concern because I think that only two of the bodies would need to be hidden at the moment. Cousin Ben is presumably scattered throughout the bay by now or fish food, Lucy is most likely charred remnants at the bottom of the pit (and the killer may have even dumped dirt into the hole so if you looked down into it, you may never even see the body,) Kelly's body has been found and is in the morgue, and it looks like Hunter's body will be found in the next episode. So the only bodies needed to be hidden are the pastor's and Uncle Marty's. Uncle Marty was in two pieces, so really any closet (freezer, pantry, trunk of an old car, etc)would be big enough to hide two dead bodies at the present time. As far as lack of presence being realized, Uncle Marty isn't really "missing," due to the text message, the pastor probably won't be missed until the rehearsal, Hunter well if he disappears, it's not as if anyone will miss him, they would just assume he left the island, of course that could be null if his body is discovered in the next episode, Ben was noticed right away but brushed off. Which leaves Lucy. Now, I am guessing the timeline is that the dress reveal was the next day? So, it is still logical that her absence could be put off as she went off somewhere. Was she the bridesmaid who said at the party on the first night that what her boyfriend didn't know wouldn't hurt him?

Editing to add more thoughts:

I think a previous poster stated that the killer was picking off the least missed. This is very true. I think the groomsmen are next in line to die. I give another 2 episodes before the missing are really noticed. There are not many left that won't be noticed or explained away by logical reasoning.