Kings on NBC

Florimel · 03-10-2009, 02:53 AM

Has anyone heard about this new show? I just found it and learned that it will have its 2-hour premiere this Sunday night.

The concept sounds interesting. From executive producer Michael Green (NBC’s "Heroes") comes a riveting new drama about a modern day monarchy. "Kings" is a contemporary re-telling of the timeless tale of David and Goliath. This series is an epic story of greed and power, war and romance, forbidden loves and secret alliances -- and a young hero who rises to power in a modern-day kingdom.

It stars Ian MacShane, which is enough for me to take a look.

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FireWoman · 03-10-2009, 11:22 AM

My DvR is already set!

daddyzgirl · 03-10-2009, 01:43 PM

I've seen the promos on NBC and will definitely record the premiere episode.

CrimsonLine · 03-16-2009, 07:32 AM

I thought the premiere episode was interesting, and worth checking out.

As a Christian, my major concern going in to it was the portrayal of God, and of the faith of the characters. I'd give the show a solid "meh" on that score.

Right off the bat, one of the primary characteristics of David in the Bible is his strong faith in God. That's not even hinted at in this show yet, though a lot of other characters talk about God all the time.

I did like King Silas' Godstuff. That was well portrayed, his ambivalence toward God, his willingness to chuck God under the bus as soon as God doesn't do what he wants. Very Bible-accurate.

I thought Rev. Samuels was great.

The portrayal of God's presence as a butterfly or flock of butterflies was interesting. Artistically, it was beautiful, and set up an interesting contrast between the living creature itself and the portrayal of the butterfly on the nation's flag - cold, logo-ish, sterile. But if I'm looking for help in my time of need, if I need strength and protection, I'm not going to look to a butterfly. It's an odd choice for an animal to symbolize God. We'll see if they broaden that out in some way later on.

Florimel · 03-16-2009, 04:19 PM

I have the opposite point of view since the religion issue is usually a turnoff for me, but this was a well-written and well-acted show that kept my attention throughout.

Ian McShane never fails to give an outstanding performance. I loved him in Deadwood and in the British series, Lovejoy. I didn't see a weak link in any of the performances.

Unfortunately, the show had dismal ratings, so I have my doubts as to how long it will last. I hope word of mouth will inspire people to watch.

Coco46 · 03-16-2009, 05:59 PM

Maybe like you, a lot of people may have been turned off by the David and Goliath reference. I enjoyed the show and didn't really see this as overly religious, although it would not have bothered me one way or the other. Since I find the premise interesting, this show probably won't last!

Ellen · 03-19-2009, 11:01 PM

I like the fact that the religious stuff isn't overdone and that the analogy of the David story is treated from a literary rather than dogmatic viewpoint. I watched it initially for the very articulate Ian McShane, whom I loved in Deadwood.

I didn't know about the whole "David and Goliath" aspect until I went to IMDb to look up some of the actors -- and then could see the parallels with some of the characters' names. "David Shepherd" -- okay, that's pretty straightforward. And the king's son, Jack -- obviously "Jonathan," Saul's gay son and best friend/lover of David. (So I wonder if David Shepherd will turn out to be gay or bisexual, like his biblical counterpart?)

Anyway -- love the writing, love the acting, love the production quality. So how long 'til it gets cancelled in favor of some insipid reality show or yet another Law and Order? (I hope not, but am not holding my breath . . .)

buglover · 04-02-2009, 02:08 PM

I'm extremely confused and have gone back and watched a couple of times. Why does the king want to kill the soldier??

Duxxy · 04-02-2009, 03:35 PM

Actually he has a few reasons to want him dead.
1. David's affect on and attraction to the princess.
2. David's popularity
3. David's 'teflon' personality - everything seems to come up roses for him.
4. the King saw the butterflies wreath David's head - the King's own 'sign' from God that he was destined and to be king. The King is threatened so he's going to eliminate the competition.

buglover · 04-02-2009, 03:42 PM

Thanks Duxxy. Does the Queen know about the mistress?

03-10-2009, 02:53 AM	#1
Florimel FORT Fogey Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,001	Kings on NBC Has anyone heard about this new show? I just found it and learned that it will have its 2-hour premiere this Sunday night. The concept sounds interesting. From executive producer Michael Green (NBC’s "Heroes") comes a riveting new drama about a modern day monarchy. "Kings" is a contemporary re-telling of the timeless tale of David and Goliath. This series is an epic story of greed and power, war and romance, forbidden loves and secret alliances -- and a young hero who rises to power in a modern-day kingdom. It stars Ian MacShane, which is enough for me to take a look. Kings TV Show \| Videos, Photos, Cast Bios & Character Profiles \| NBC Official Site __________________ Happy dance for being proven right about Jin being alive. Next request: Run Season 6 in September instead of waiting until winter.

03-10-2009, 11:22 AM	#2
FireWoman I Bleed Scarlet And Gray Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: At the High Rollers Table Posts: 4,079	Re: Kings on NBC My DvR is already set! __________________ "Irregardless? That's not even a real word. You're affixing the negative prefix 'ir-' to 'regardless', but, as 'regardless' is already negative, it's a logical absurdity!" ~Steve Smith "Once I swore I would die for you, But I never meant it like this."

03-10-2009, 01:43 PM	#3
daddyzgirl Forward down the field... Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: @ Ford Field Posts: 789	Re: Kings on NBC I've seen the promos on NBC and will definitely record the premiere episode.

03-16-2009, 07:32 AM	#4
CrimsonLine FORT Regular Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 62	Re: Kings on NBC I thought the premiere episode was interesting, and worth checking out. As a Christian, my major concern going in to it was the portrayal of God, and of the faith of the characters. I'd give the show a solid "meh" on that score. Right off the bat, one of the primary characteristics of David in the Bible is his strong faith in God. That's not even hinted at in this show yet, though a lot of other characters talk about God all the time. I did like King Silas' Godstuff. That was well portrayed, his ambivalence toward God, his willingness to chuck God under the bus as soon as God doesn't do what he wants. Very Bible-accurate. I thought Rev. Samuels was great. The portrayal of God's presence as a butterfly or flock of butterflies was interesting. Artistically, it was beautiful, and set up an interesting contrast between the living creature itself and the portrayal of the butterfly on the nation's flag - cold, logo-ish, sterile. But if I'm looking for help in my time of need, if I need strength and protection, I'm not going to look to a butterfly. It's an odd choice for an animal to symbolize God. We'll see if they broaden that out in some way later on. __________________ For those who are wondering, my name is spelt "Denes House," but it's pronounced "Throatwobbler Mangrove." My blog; My online art gallery "WORSHIP...is the most appropriate response that can be made to resurrection" - Eugene Peterson

03-16-2009, 04:19 PM	#5
Florimel FORT Fogey Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,001	Re: Kings on NBC I have the opposite point of view since the religion issue is usually a turnoff for me, but this was a well-written and well-acted show that kept my attention throughout. Ian McShane never fails to give an outstanding performance. I loved him in Deadwood and in the British series, Lovejoy. I didn't see a weak link in any of the performances. Unfortunately, the show had dismal ratings, so I have my doubts as to how long it will last. I hope word of mouth will inspire people to watch. __________________ Happy dance for being proven right about Jin being alive. Next request: Run Season 6 in September instead of waiting until winter.

03-16-2009, 05:59 PM	#6
Coco46 FORT Fan Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NC Posts: 198	Re: Kings on NBC Maybe like you, a lot of people may have been turned off by the David and Goliath reference. I enjoyed the show and didn't really see this as overly religious, although it would not have bothered me one way or the other. Since I find the premise interesting, this show probably won't last!

03-19-2009, 11:01 PM	#7
Ellen Sun & Fun in SoCal Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Diego Age: 51 Posts: 3,147	Re: Kings on NBC I like the fact that the religious stuff isn't overdone and that the analogy of the David story is treated from a literary rather than dogmatic viewpoint. I watched it initially for the very articulate Ian McShane, whom I loved in Deadwood. I didn't know about the whole "David and Goliath" aspect until I went to IMDb to look up some of the actors -- and then could see the parallels with some of the characters' names. "David Shepherd" -- okay, that's pretty straightforward. And the king's son, Jack -- obviously "Jonathan," Saul's gay son and best friend/lover of David. (So I wonder if David Shepherd will turn out to be gay or bisexual, like his biblical counterpart?) Anyway -- love the writing, love the acting, love the production quality. So how long 'til it gets cancelled in favor of some insipid reality show or yet another Law and Order? (I hope not, but am not holding my breath . . .) __________________ "There's no crying in baseball!" -- Tom Hanks, A League of Their Own

04-02-2009, 02:08 PM	#8
buglover Searching for inner peace Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: CA Age: 35 Posts: 11,709	Re: Kings on NBC I'm extremely confused and have gone back and watched a couple of times. Why does the king want to kill the soldier?? __________________ In my own little world.

04-02-2009, 03:35 PM	#9
Duxxy Vampires, Shmampires Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: looking for a deal on evilBay Posts: 5,630	Re: Kings on NBC Actually he has a few reasons to want him dead. 1. David's affect on and attraction to the princess. 2. David's popularity 3. David's 'teflon' personality - everything seems to come up roses for him. 4. the King saw the butterflies wreath David's head - the King's own 'sign' from God that he was destined and to be king. The King is threatened so he's going to eliminate the competition. __________________ "Mom, I think without air and books we would surely die" ~ Meredith, 9 Last edited by Duxxy; 04-02-2009 at 03:40 PM.

04-02-2009, 03:42 PM	#10
buglover Searching for inner peace Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: CA Age: 35 Posts: 11,709	Re: Kings on NBC Thanks Duxxy. Does the Queen know about the mistress? __________________ In my own little world.