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Old 07-11-2008, 11:03 AM   #101
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Right... she likes him in part because he can talk to her about things like philosophy and no one else can (what, there's not ONE bright boy in that high school? One cute nerd?). But as soon as she gets to college there should be a number of guys who have that quality to choose from, she just doesn't know that yet. And he's been to college and DOES know that.
And, frankly, he should be able to do better-- and I'm leaving out the issue of her looks (to me he looks way cuter than she does...she's just too thin, plus her nose, but let's not go there)...he's a cute guy with a job... he can't find dozens of women his own age? Yes, it's nice to be adored, but it's not very mature to be looking for adoration in a relationship, especially when you know it is based on a false assumption (that he's the only guy in the world who talks phil.). OK, so maybe he is her match in maturity! He's certainly not showing much mature restraint.
And, if she waits until college, she will be able to do better herself.

As to Trina and her pilot and her ex....it's interesting...in earlier episodes, where the pilot was surrounded by adoring stewardesses, he looked way cool. But in this episode, where he's being compared to her taller, younger, much richer ex boyfriend, he suddenly looked a little sad and shabby. His porn stache didn't look cool any more, kind of pathetic, and when he was slouched outside on the couch he looked as if he suddenly felt old and undesirable...maybe worrying he's getting a pot compared to the guy who's Trina's classmate. Earlier, although she's obviously very attractive, in some way she was gaining cool from being with him... this time it was the reverse. Not sure if credit goes to the actors or the writing or directing, but it was well done.
I agree, Janet looked terrific in that dress and with her hair done. I don't know how well she's going to handle her hubby being out of a job though, just as she thinks she's begun to successfully social climb.
I'm about to go TVless for a month---usually I don't care as there's nothing on but BB, and I get summaries from FORT. Hoping that I can figure out from your comments what's happening!
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Old 07-11-2008, 11:19 AM   #102
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The scene where she came home to the wallpaper-ripping party...and she wrote their initials on the wall and drew a heart around them. That's a very little girl thing to do. I don't see him doing the equivalent of this.
The sixty year old woman who sits beside me at work is doing essentially the same thing right now . She met someone on-line.

I suppose it doesn't particularly bother me because, as I posted earlier, I went to school with someone who was in a relationship with a teacher, and whether or not she was doodling hearts when she got home, there was no way any of our classmates would have been a suitable boyfriend for her. She was just not a teenaged spirit.

As for myself, while I never went out with any teachers, starting from about the age of sixteen all of my boyfriends were beyond highschool age. It didn't matter how relatively smart either they or I were, there was just no connection (ack! too much Bachelor watching - how mature can I be ), no common interests, nothing to share. Going out with someone my own age would have felt like going out with someone years younger. Actually, tell a lie, I did go out with someone my own age for a while. I recall crying a lot because dealing with his teenage moods and hormones and angst was just such an exercise in frustration. And so back to men it was.
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Old 07-11-2008, 11:26 AM   #103
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The sixty year old woman who sits beside me at work is doing essentially the same thing right now . She met someone on-line.
Well tell her to knock it off! No, it sounds cute. It's just something I never did beyond the age of 14 maybe...probably 12.

Then there's always the question of...why does a girl (or boy) have to have someone to date when they're in h.s. if there's no one suitable other than adults/teachers? There's something to be said for waiting. I'm not even talking about sex here, but about forging into a relationship. When I was in h.s., I wanted a boyfriend, too. But I didn't have one 'cause there was no one appropriate for me. Now college was a different story all together! One of my friends--very pretty and so smart--had a huge crush on her teacher and threw herself at him. He was a DORK, but very smart. He kind of went along with it before finally ending it. She was crushed. The whole thing just horrified me.

I don't see a huge connection between Laurie/cute summer teacher. I will admit that my senior year of h.s., I had a crush on a young, married teacher. But it didn't even occur to me to go after him because he was married...and he was my teacher...and I didn't want to date an "old" guy. And oh yeah, my parents would've known. They just would've. They were good that way!

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As to Trina and her pilot and her ex....it's interesting...in earlier episodes, where the pilot was surrounded by adoring stewardesses, he looked way cool. But in this episode, where he's being compared to her taller, younger, much richer ex boyfriend, he suddenly looked a little sad and shabby. His porn stache didn't look cool any more, kind of pathetic, and when he was slouched outside on the couch he looked as if he suddenly felt old and undesirable...
I was thinking that, too. I think it was good writing and acting all around.

About Janet's husband Roger losing his job...I think the Queen Bee really likes her and could be instrumental in helping Roger land a better job.

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I thoroughly enjoyed last night's episode. I agree Trina's husband looked very compared to the ex high school boyfriend. Next week he obviously sleeps with the stewardess and Trina isn't happy about it.
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Then there's always the question of...why does a girl (or boy) have to have someone to date when they're in h.s. if there's no one suitable other than adults/teachers?
Actually, thinking about this seriously, I understand through other threads that you have a very close and supportive relationship with your parents. Personally, I had no support from my parents, and Laura's relationship with hers seems fairly tenuous as well, judging by the amount of time both kids spend off awandering. I would have to think that most people need to have at least one person they can form a strong bond with, and if you're not a girly girl (which Laura is not), then the next likeliest person after girlfriends to bond with would be a boyfriend.

So there you are in highschool, not simpatico with the parents, not hanging with the cheerleaders, not interested in boys your own age, and not really wanting to be alone (which explains the relationship she had with...the dude with the truck). And there is a man, not too much older than you, more mature than your classmates, well-read and interested in cultural events, involved in the community, has a sense of humour, not bad looking, and apparently interested in you. I can understand.
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Actually, thinking about this seriously, I understand through other threads that you have a very close and supportive relationship with your parents.
That I did/do. Even during my surly teenage years (or is that an oxymoron? ) (And thank you for remembering that about my parents. It's actually quite touching! )

On a slightly different topic, I think that Roger is good looking and probably was quite the looker when he was younger. But does anyone else think that's he's kind of robotic? (Sort of like how Henry is kind of robotic on "Ugly Betty"? Clearly I watch too much TV... )
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Old 07-11-2008, 01:49 PM   #107
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That I did/do. Even during my surly teenage years (or is that an oxymoron? ) (And thank you for remembering that about my parents. It's actually quite touching! )

On a slightly different topic, I think that Roger is good looking and probably was quite the looker when he was younger. But does anyone else think that's he's kind of robotic? (Sort of like how Henry is kind of robotic on "Ugly Betty"? Clearly I watch too much TV... )
Yes (and good parallel), but I'm hoping that is just good acting, that he too is going to loosen up. He's had flashes here and there that make me think so. So just as Janet started off incredibly stuffy and is loosening up, I hope he will, too.
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Roger seems like he is stiff due to his wife being so uptight all the time. I too am hoping he will loosen up as she is doing now. I still think he's going to sleep with Susan soon though. That will be awkward!
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Well, maybe Susan's husband will like the new Janet....?
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Well, maybe Susan's husband will like the new Janet....?
. . . and Swingtown will live up to its name!
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