458LikesLane is a great character. I couldn't see how he was going to fit in but now I love him!Originally Posted by Debb70;4052387;
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This was what I assumed as well.
Peggy is such an interesting character. I'm really enjoying watching her grow. It's maddening how Don treats her and dismisses her concerns about the new art director, but she is standing up to the situation and growing from it.
It doesn't seem to be doing that anymore. Darn.
It seemed like AMC only gave a brief view into the episode online, but I'll check it again.
I did notice they mention how you can get episodes from ITunes, On Demand and on DVD. I guess they want to encourage us to buy it and NOT get it free.
THanks, Debb
Thank you! He looked so familiar, but I could not place him.Okay, I'm a huge Buffy fan and I totally squealed when I saw Danny Strong on screen. JONATHAN!!I'm just a few minutes into the episode and I'm already happy!
It was also maddening how they didn't give her any credit whatsoever for contributing to the Clio win. Then she had her drunken boss' back when he made the cereal blunder, but she will never get credit for that, either (or only in a negative way).
And notice how she and Pete started out at about the same level of experience, but now she is still treated badly/dismissively, whereas he has made partner. It's a wonder more women didn't go postal.
Yes, I agree, however, I think that Pete came into the original firm as a copy writer and Peggy was there working as a secretary. I think that Pete has a college degree and Peggy does not. That could be one reason they see fit to hold her back and promote Pete. I'm not making excuses. I think most of it would have been because she was a woman and not based on her competence.
When you watch a show like this, you become more aware of why we have federal laws to protect people in the workplace.
I think that 100% of the different career paths between Pete and Peggy is gender. After all, that's how it worked in the era the show takes place in. I've always thought the thing Mad Men does best is accurately depicting the 60s -- pregnant women smoking and sipping on wine, etc. One of the realities of that era was that women had four choices for adulthood -- motherhood, teacher, nurse, or secretary. Peggy is breaking that mold. The show would be dishonest to the era if they showed her skyrocketing through the agency, but through her, we are seeing how the change came about.
Peggy isn't treated with the utmost respect all of the time, but Pete and Peggy are not on the same experience level. Pete already worked at SC when the show started, had been there a little while, and managed accounts. Plus, as Debb70 said, he has a college degree--from an Ivy, I believe, or at similar since he came from money. Peggy, OTOH, had her first day of work on the first episode and was only 20. She never went to college either. Accounts and Creative are going to be viewed differently as well in terms of bringing in business. Where the difference in treatment comes in at this point in the story is Lane is backing Pete to go out and get more clients to shore up the client base. On the other hand, Peggy is cleaning up Don's messes, doing his work, and getting little to no credit for it. In asmuch as Don's given her a unique for a woman opportunity, he's holding her back as well. I do wonder if that would happen with a guy in Peggy's position--Don may see a guy even more of a threat and keep him down as well. I guess we may see that if Danny Strong's character sticks around.
I did like the flashbacks of when Don joined SC. Personally, I took away that he conned himself into the job--that little look right before the elevators was "oh, man, I got away with it!" to me. Roger's great succes--of bringing in Don--came out of a drunken con. I could be wrong, but that's how I like to view it.
Maybe it was just me, but the whole Emmys/Clios lining up was cloying. I think Matt Weiner needs to have his ego deflated a bit.
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