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    OH, I didn't know he meant it that way. I thought it was part of Weiner's delusions. I think he has strong reactions to her and he wants and believes others do too, only, other's don't find her irresistible like he does.
    You have a strong reaction to her, it just happens to be a negative strong reaction.

    I rather like Megan.
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    I like Megan too. I like how she is so different from Betty, and yet she ended up being on the same end of Don's standoffishness. Like she said at the end of last season when he cancelled moving to California, "I used to feel sorry for (Betty and the children) -- but now I realize we're all in the same boat."

    I also thought it was brilliant that Matt Weiner had Megan be just another secretary in the background for most of season 4 before bringing her to the forefront when she took over Don's desk, after Miss Blankenship died. She became yet another secretary who slept with him, but she was the first one to be just as sophisticated as Don about what it meant and didn't mean. Don ended up falling for her without her having to try that hard.

    It's been fascinating watching Don try to navigate through this more mature kind of relationship, only to find out that he wasn't as ready for it as he thought, and that his old tricks don't work on Megan the way they worked on Betty for so long. Megan has different ambitions, and she doesn't need Don (or his monye) in the same ways that Betty did.

    I wonder if Megan will ever find out about Sylvia, and how she'd react if she did. Who knows, maybe Sally will end up telling her...now THAT would be something to watch!
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    You have a strong reaction to her, it just happens to be a negative strong reaction.

    I rather like Megan.
    I like her, too.
    And LOVED the blue mini with the angel-trumpet sleeves. (I had a similar dress -- my favorite at the time.)
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    It's good to know Megan's character and the actress have fans here. She is fortunate. I am surprised, since many fans of MM have rose up in force to protest her. I get it.

    IMO, her character is woefully, underdeveloped and an odd combo of mix match. Her acting is so bad, IMO, that it's unfair to give her so much screen time while stealing time from more talented actors.

    Weiner's character development for Megan is strange, IMO. It was all over the place. Initially, Megan wasn't that good at being a secretary, made mistakes, etc. not much of a love life and she wasn't that good as a copywriter, not good as an actress either, despite attending classes. She couldn't get a job even though she went to numerous auditions. And when she did get her soap job, she was told she wasn't very good by her boss. On the other hand, she turns out great with SCP on the Heinz account and seems to be a savant in advertising, but she's not happy with that. She wants to pursue acting which isn't good at, but then she's great at it and becoming a star in Hollywood. Which is it? Is she incompetent or a genius? Oh, and she lands a handsome, successful husband to boot.

    I almost feel sorry for the actress who plays Megan. She doesn't seem to be able to convey emotion except for the occasional pursing of her lips. Recall the scene when she confided in Sylvia about her miscarriage. It was so poorly conveyed that I thought Megan was lying about it. Turns out the actress just couldn't pull off that scene with real conviction.

    When she pops on the screen, to me it's like she's playing a soap opera character. Very stagey. Her role goes nowhere. She never makes me feel anything, except, how long will this scene last. At least now that she's in LA, I have a reason to endure it. I love LA, especially during that time frame.

    I wish they could have written her role so that it was realistic and interesting without having her take over the show. Instead it's like she's Weiner's muse and we are just along for the ride. He ought to be embarrassed, but apparently he's proud of his obsession with this actress. Sorry, but I don't find her as beautiful as Weiner does.

    And the show has gone downhill since her character showed up, IMO. Some blame it on her character and her bad acting. That's why I suspect they will not see any more awards.

    Okay. Glad to get that out of my system. lol And I swear, I'm not president of the bash Megan Draper fan club.

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    I don't think Megan is a star in Hollywood yet. She was over the moon when her agent got her an audition for an NBC pilot, so she's still looking for work. Don is still supporting her, and she's driving a fancy car while pretending to be a broke bohemian like her other broke actor friends in the hills. One thing that has been consistent about her is her need to LOOK like she's a struggling actor, even though she's never refused Don's help and support. She even asked him to be in that commercial, which started her career in the first place. Her self-centered mother thinks she should stay at home and please her husband, and her socialist father disapproves of the easy, lush life she married into. She's vain, self-conscious and at the same time very ambitious. Like most actors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Debb70 View Post
    It's good to know Megan's character and the actress have fans here. She is fortunate. I am surprised, since many fans of MM have rose up in force to protest her. I get it.

    IMO, her character is woefully, underdeveloped and an odd combo of mix match. Her acting is so bad, IMO, that it's unfair to give her so much screen time while stealing time from more talented actors.

    Weiner's character development for Megan is strange, IMO. It was all over the place. Initially, Megan wasn't that good at being a secretary, made mistakes, etc. not much of a love life and she wasn't that good as a copywriter, not good as an actress either, despite attending classes. She couldn't get a job even though she went to numerous auditions. And when she did get her soap job, she was told she wasn't very good by her boss. On the other hand, she turns out great with SCP on the Heinz account and seems to be a savant in advertising, but she's not happy with that. She wants to pursue acting which isn't good at, but then she's great at it and becoming a star in Hollywood. Which is it? Is she incompetent or a genius? Oh, and she lands a handsome, successful husband to boot.

    I almost feel sorry for the actress who plays Megan. She doesn't seem to be able to convey emotion except for the occasional pursing of her lips. Recall the scene when she confided in Sylvia about her miscarriage. It was so poorly conveyed that I thought Megan was lying about it. Turns out the actress just couldn't pull off that scene with real conviction.

    When she pops on the screen, to me it's like she's playing a soap opera character. Very stagey. Her role goes nowhere. She never makes me feel anything, except, how long will this scene last. At least now that she's in LA, I have a reason to endure it. I love LA, especially during that time frame.

    I wish they could have written her role so that it was realistic and interesting without having her take over the show. Instead it's like she's Weiner's muse and we are just along for the ride. He ought to be embarrassed, but apparently he's proud of his obsession with this actress. Sorry, but I don't find her as beautiful as Weiner does.

    And the show has gone downhill since her character showed up, IMO. Some blame it on her character and her bad acting. That's why I suspect they will not see any more awards.

    Okay. Glad to get that out of my system. lol And I swear, I'm not president of the bash Megan Draper fan club.
    Of course, it's all a matter of opinion, and your mileage may vary, but if she's stirring up all these emotions, I don't think you can call her a bad actress!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMet View Post
    Of course, it's all a matter of opinion, and your mileage may vary, but if she's stirring up all these emotions, I don't think you can call her a bad actress!
    I think it's more about my disappointment in Weiner.

    It's difficult for me to relate to a lady living in a canyon villa, driving a sport's car, drinking champagne, who gets all upset when her rich husband gives her an expensive television. lol
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    But that's what makes Megan complex and imperfect, and why I think Jessica Paré plays her so well: She's seemingly sophisticated but really not quite grown yet, probably because of her indifferent, oversexualized parents. Her mother handed down her vanity and her skills at innocently manipulating men, and her father handed down his liberal guilt, which prevents her from simply embracing and enjoying the lifestyle Don provides her, unlike Betty who was more or less happy to be spoiled. And both of Megan's parents gave her their cynicism, which she fights with her forced optimism, but ultimately which causes her to withdraw when it gets the best of her. She desperately needs to prove to her parents that she is independent, whether or not it's actually true.
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    It will take all of my patience to endure Megan this season, but I will attempt to do so, since I love her local. If it wasn't for LA, I don't think I would be so tolerant. lol

    I think LA has even done wonders for Pete. Pete in his casual wear reminded me of Scott Disick!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Debb70 View Post
    I think it's more about my disappointment in Weiner.

    It's difficult for me to relate to a lady living in a canyon villa, driving a sport's car, drinking champagne, who gets all upset when her rich husband gives her an expensive television. lol
    IMO there was so much more to what was going on between Don and Megan in California, that I think the point is missed by focusing on these things.
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