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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchieComic Fan View Post
    I tried to like it, I really did, because I like Ray Liotta. But I can't invest in characters who are so cold blooded. For instance, blonde chick zapping the girl who recognized her from school, surfer guy shooting those two because they kicked him off the beach AND he kicked the one-night stand's cat off the bad and then to make matters worse he stole the poor thing! And why does the girl want the casino girl to find girls who look just like her?

    I too think the wife had an affair with the dentist back when her husband was "traveling" a lot and she probably got lonely. But she definitely knows he's up to something. I'm thinking he doesn't even know about her being on parole. She seems to have her secrets too. She probably got busted during one of his trips.

    I might give it another shot to see how it goes, but like I said, I have a hard time liking people who kill and harm just because someone ticks them off.
    That is the reason that I've never watched an episode of Prison Break while the show has won some Emmy's. I just can't find myself liking or even sympathising with any of the characters. It was noble for one brother to break his other brother out of jail but why was this necessary. I mean does he have any proof his brother didn't commit the murder and if so why hasn't he been able to convince anyone of his brothers innocence or even try and find the real killer. Like I said I have never watched any of the episodes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duxxy View Post
    I really enjoyed the show. You have to wonder if the wife 'knows' about her husband's side job? She must because she doesn't seem very fond of Charlie.
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    I, too, enjoyed "Smith" It's worth watching for the prospect of seeing Ray Liotta, alone, each week. And, I've long admired fellow Chicagoan Virginia Madsen's work.

    My guess is that "Smith" is an example where network TV has finally begun to feel the "heat" from similar fare that has been airing on cable, e.g., FX. In my opinion, "Smith" is NO "Thief" (the excellent limited series that aired on FX). But, for network TV, it's not bad, not bad at all ...

    So far, I do have the feeling that Bobby's wife has an inkling that her husband is up to something that isn't exactly legit, and hiding stuff from her. Hell, they can't be livin' that large, just from her working in a dentist's office, and him sellin' cups...... But, I guess it takes a con to know one, because, apparently, the wife is on parole, in NA, and has to take drug tests - all without his knowledge. I'm just intrigued - a good thing - and I want to continue to watch to see what happens, especially now that the heist (from the pilot) has gone awry.

    I missed the first 20 minutes or so of tonight's broadcast. Now, the guy from the crew who had the "Viking funeral", so to speak, at the end - was that Sean? Was he the one with the gambling problem, the weak link in the crew? And, who was Charlie? Was that the older woman that Bobby spoke to at that wedding and, then, on that air strip? And, if so, is she their boss (for those jobs)?

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    ArchieComicFan, she wanted the credit cards of women that looked like her because she rented the vehicles they used in the heist under those various ids. It will be just that many more deadends for the cops to track down. I wonder if she really did go to school with the one girl, or if she was just mistaken.
    I wonder how Sean's buddy will explain his absence to his wife.
    I got the impression that Bobby's place of work is somehow under the same control as his side occupation. Or at least his supervisor is.
    I'll be interested in finding out more of the circumstances of how, why, etc., the one guy was in prison. The group don't seem like ones to leave any loose ends behind.
    It looks like next week they will spend a lot of time with the authorities investigating the heist.
    I can't stop thinking of the big boss lady as being Behruz's Mom in 24.
    Also, I was wondering if the heist took place in Pittsburgh? In the first post here, it says Chicago. They always seemed to mention Pittsburgh when talking amongst themselves. I know Bobby told his wife St. Louis, but that was just a cover.

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    Missed most of it, I fell asleep! drat

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    Catwoman, the casualty was indeed Sean, the gambler. I kinda knew he'd bite the bullet because the actor was never listed in any of the many write-ups I'd read, plus his gambling problem was a dead giveaway. And yes, Charlie (Shohreh Aghdashloo) is the broker who sends Bobby his jobs.

    radar, the heist did indeed take place in Pittsburgh. They took off in the boat on one of the Three Rivers, you could see the football stadium all lit up. And they said it was Pittsburgh a couple of times.

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    This show hooked me within the first few minutes. Only 24 has done that to me before.

    Although the characters may seem kind of cold, I think we'll see a feeling of family from the 'crew' before long.

    Excellent show, Liotta and Madsen totally shine.
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    Just a question: Why are people turned off by watching a show with "anti-heroes", as it were? I love The Shield, but I sure don't like Vic Mackey's character. Ditto with Christian Troy from Nip/Tuck.

    I think shows like The Shield, The Sopranos, and now Smith are enjoyable precisely because they challenge us. They show us that no matter how rotten a character is, we still may be able to find some glimmer of humanity that we identify with. I don't have to "root" for a character to become emotionally invested in him or the show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laura302 View Post
    Missed most of it, I fell asleep! drat
    CBS is replaying both Smith and Jericho on Saturday night this week. At least according to my tv guide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howie's Padawan View Post
    Just a question: Why are people turned off by watching a show with "anti-heroes", as it were? I love The Shield, but I sure don't like Vic Mackey's character. Ditto with Christian Troy from Nip/Tuck.

    I think shows like The Shield, The Sopranos, and now Smith are enjoyable precisely because they challenge us. They show us that no matter how rotten a character is, we still may be able to find some glimmer of humanity that we identify with. I don't have to "root" for a character to become emotionally invested in him or the show.
    I think if we all liked the same shows, there'd be no variety! I don't watch Sopranos because I don't have HBO. I've never seen The Shield.

    I don't have a problem with anti-heroes. I just don't like characters that have no redeeming qualities or who do ill towards others just because they feel like it. It's one thing when it's bad guys stealing from other bad guys but I'm turned off by characters who are brutal just because. So far the only character I've seen being that way in Smith is the blond guy, Jeff (Simon Baker).
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    ^^Jeff seems to be a total sociopath. He kills without remorse (or any feeling, apparently) he uses women indiscriminately, he kicks cats, and I'm sure he'd steal from Girl Scouts given the opportunity. He's seriously bad.

    Bobby, on the other hand, has the redeeming quality that he seems to genuinely and truly love his family. Perhaps he's not supporting them in the best way, but he knows that, and he wants out. I think losing Sean was a wake-up call, he knows that very easily could have been him.

    I totally respect your opinion, though. The great thing about having so many channels available is that shows don't need to have huge ratings to stick around any more. You get more variety. I happen to think we're living in the golden age of television; movies are actually becoming quite irrelevant.

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