Wheee.... fun, irrelevant chat. Thanks too all three of you. *whew*
Wheee.... fun, irrelevant chat. Thanks too all three of you. *whew*
Never let the things you want make you forget about the things you have.
If they don't want to see it, they should just look away? Change the channel? This is not rocket science.Originally Posted by Mariner;2267183;
"...each affects the other, and the other affects the next, and the world is full of stories, but the stories are all one." - Mitch Albom, one helluva writer.
When you throw a rock into a pack of dogs, you know which one you hit by the one that yelps!
Oh come on, you've got a major gay character on the show, who has a love life--surely anyone who watches expects he'll kiss someone. I was watching The Class the other day, and a gay character says he's taking flowers to airport to welcome his sweetie home, and predicts two men hugging with roses will freak out the old people....and then when they are hugging he looks over his sweetie's shoulder and there's this whitehaired old lady beaming at him. Now that's closer to reality today unless you live in very small town fundamentalist country.
Really, I think the "shock value" of gay men kissing is long gone for most folks (and I think that's a good thing--if people get used to it on TV maybe they won't freak out when they run into it in real life). Wresting in the sheets, ok, maybe that would still pop a few eyeballs, but this isn't a show that shows a lot of that anyway. Calista and her squeeze spend more time in bed talking and sleeping than anything else.
Greg is also a producer for the show, and openly gay, which is probably why the show has such a down-to-earth view on being gay, and living in L.A. (going to the gym, closeted actors, etc). He also was a writer on Dawson's Creek. I have to say that this show is pretty ground breaking for mainstream broadcast U.S. TV. It's gay character has as much of a love life as any of it's straight characters, something which previous shows with gay characters never were able to manage. I also think that they've done it in a responsible and tasteful way. Unfortunately, there are still people like Anne Coulter out there...Originally Posted by skyhigh79;2266312;
Hmmm, Wonder if we might also "the Beek" on the show?
there is no energy shortage, there is a shortage of imagination
Dave Annable, Brothers & Sisters: Is Justin Doomed? | TVGuide.com
After too long a break, ABC's Brothers & Sisters — which has since been picked up for a second season — returns with a new episode this Sunday at 10 pm/ET. TVGuide.com went to Dave Annable, who plays Justin, the addiction-kicking, Afghanistan-bound baby of the Walker clan, for a preview of what's ahead. Plus, the scoop on how Fox's tragically truncated Reunion would have ended!
TVGuide.com: With all the last-minute backstage changes and recasts, some people seemed ready to read Brothers & Sisters its last rites before it even premiered. Has it therefore been satisfying to see it be as successful as it has been?
Dave Annable: Oh, absolutely. A lot of that sort of "bad press" was unwarranted. What happened was that in the original pilot, the dad died at the end of the second commercial break. So what happened is you had the funeral and everything, which was sort of a downer, and you didn't want viewers wanting to slit their wrists after the first episode. And by adding Sally Field and Matthew Rhys [as Nora and Kevin] — and this is nothing against Betty Buckley and Jonathan LaPaglia — what they were trying to do was create the best product possible. Whether that was finding someone else for a role or changing a role — Kevin was originally younger and had a son — it was all about the best product possible. But it all comes down to writing, and our show has really, really great writing as well as wonderful actors. It's one of those shows that started off under the radar and became a hit, which is the best kind of hit, because it's a hard-earned one.
TVGuide.com: The son that Kevin originally had, was he from a previous failed relationship?
Annable: Yeah, I believe so. He was married.... Like I said, they did a lot to the stories.
TVGuide.com: What can you tease about this week's first new episode in a while? Rebecca comes over for a Walker-family dinner?
Annable: It's pretty interesting when she comes over and meets the whole fam. Some funny stuff goes down at dinner, which was really fun to shoot. It's always fun to play with some comedy, because we have amazing comedic actors in Sally Field and Calista [Flockhart] and Rachel [Griffiths], and Balthazar [Getty] is really funny.... The dinner is complete chaos, which takes so long to shoot because there are 400 of us in the cast. But I tell you, we are so lucky because we get along so well. I actually just spoke with Balthazar and Matthew last night, a few hours after shooting a big family scene, and I was like, "Is it weird that we miss each other?"
TVGuide.com: Rebecca's not really poised to welcome her just-discovered siblings with hugs and kisses, right?
Annable: Yeah, she's still bitter about all this new information she has been hit with. And her seeing this close family that we have with all the good times and bad times, that's got to be pretty difficult for her to witness. Her arc is getting used to being around that and possibly joining it at some point.
TVGuide.com: Now, what are we going to do with this Justin-Rebecca chemistry, hmm?
Annable: [Laughs] I don't know about that! It's funny because a lot of people have said, "If they weren't brother and sister, they'd make a cute couple," but I think that's a whole different story line I'm not sure they want to touch upon!
TVGuide.com: If this were a true soap opera, they would have hooked up before realizing the sibling connection.
Annable: Yeah, we would have been making out at the first meeting, and then done this whole thing, getting married... who knows.
TVGuide.com: Justin's redeployment to Afghanistan, do we know when that's going to fall in regards to the season finale?
Annable: I believe I'm definitely going to Iraq, which is sort of scary. I was like, "Wait, am I coming back from Iraq?" As far as I know, I don't know. All I know is I'm going to Iraq, and time-wise it's probably right around the season finale. I hope they find a way to bring me back into the ol' fam.
TVGuide.com: They could do, like, "war diaries" from you or something.
Annable: Yeah. Like I said, we're blessed with brilliant writers, so I'm sure they'll be able to find something that keeps me involved with the family. Whether it's webcam stuff or... battle scenes don't really fit in with the tone of our show. I don't think they're going to be building Fallujah on Stage 4!
TVGuide.com: Have we seen the last of Justin's hot little girlfriend-boss?
Annable: As far as I know, that's sort of done for now. We're only one or two scripts ahead of what you guys see, and I don't know if she's planning on coming back to say goodbye [before he goes to war], or what the deal is.
TVGuide.com: Who on the cast is most like their character, and who is most different?
Annable: I think we're all pretty similar, and that's why we got cast. But with Matthew Rhys playing the homosexual character — he's straight in real life, and he's going to high-five me for saying that. But he's an amazing actor because he's pulling it off and it's so believable for the fact that every person who comes up to me and him in a bar asks me if he's gay or straight. But yeah, that would be the most dramatic difference.
TVGuide.com: Jon Robin Baitz does a blog for TVGuide.com....
Annable: I know, I read you guys all the time.
TVGuide.com: And he's just a fantastic writer. Editing his blogs is such a treat, because they're like poetry.
Annable: Yeah, it's sort of above all the rest. Robbie Baitz was why we all signed on to the show. The way he can write a family and relationships, it's a pleasure to be a part of it. We lucked out in that we get to say his words.
TVGuide.com: Baitz has blogged about how the show gets guff from some viewers for presenting a gay man's complex love life.
Annable: Yeah, and it's because it is showing a homosexual character and not a caricature. Kevin is a regular guy with regular relationship issues. I think it's time that people wake up and accept this, because clearly it's something we walk around with every day.
TVGuide.com: You're dating Kate Walsh (Grey's Anatomy). Is that official...? Can we talk about this?
Annable: Let's kind of shy away from that.... [Laughs] It tends to sort of take over [the conversation], I'm starting to learn.
TVGuide.com: Around this time last year that we still had readers asking if and when and how Reunion would be back on the air....
Annable: Oh, yeah.... I tell you, I still get it when I'm out, people are genuinely hurt by the fact that they cut that short — including my family, who I received death threats from for not telling them! We got the short end of the stick on that one because they put us on right before the baseball playoffs, and then we were off for six weeks.... For a serialized drama in that format, you need to be able to watch every week. I would have started us in November after baseball and given us a solid run. It sucks that no one got closure.
TVGuide.com: Didn't it ultimately come out that Sam's killer was, what, someone's kid?
Annable: The daughter. Will and Sam's daughter. I don't even know if this is true, but somehow I guess Sam got shot because the daughter thought she was an intruder, and then Craig comes home to find what he thinks is his wife dead, calls his dad the politician, and panics. His dad then comes home and finds Sam still breathing, and for some reason ends up suffocating her. I could be completely making this up, but that's the rumor that was circulating with the cast.
TVGuide.com: Before we go, congrats on making TV Guide's "sexy" issue.
Annable: That was extremely flattering and completely terrifying in the same breath, because no one really considers themselves sexy, and if you do you may have some problems! [Laughs] Everybody's giving me a lot of flak on set because I am the "baby" of the group, so I was embarrassed to tell anybody about it. But now I'm going to make a T-shirt out of it and wear it to bars!
Last edited by ArchieComic Fan; 03-30-2007 at 02:45 PM.
Interesting. So he's dating Kate Walsh? I thought he was dating Sally Fields... or was that one of her other "sons"?
On the last show I thought Calista's comments to the Senator about him rushing things with the kids were right on. And his, about his having already been married and having kids, to her were downright patronizing. Her wanting to take a little time to develop the romance is not "playing games", and that snide remark about her "relationship history" was not exactly mature either. He definitely lost points I thought, and should have her thinking about whether this is someone she wants to live/fight with, as he certainly doesn't 'fight fair".
And this is why you should never date your boss!!
Last edited by PWS; 04-02-2007 at 07:32 PM.
An addendum to the male kissing controversy....My sig. other doesn't normally watch this but was in the room last night just in time to see the two guys kissing and was all startled---as in, they can do this now on the major channels? Obviously not a big TV watcher these days! Glad to see the show didn't back down on the issue...unless the fact that the gay brother is back to being single again backing down.... But maybe this will free him up to date the Senator's brother...just in time for the election.... Would probably be a better match anyway...the actor didn't seem to have a lot going for him other than looks. He needs to be dating someone closer to him in education/intelligence (not that the 2 are equal of course!).
Felt sorry for Nora---I'm guessing she'd have trouble dating someone who has a penchant for young things after what she found out about her husband. And completely unethical for the prof. to be dating his students of any age anyway, extension course or not.
Last edited by PWS; 04-09-2007 at 03:32 PM.
I was watching tonight...so what happened in Kuwait with the Senator? Is it a mystery or did I miss something?
No, it's not a mystery. Everyone has branded him a hero for a helicopter rescue in Kuwait. His staff wanted him to use the incident in a speech and he went ballistic about it. At the end of the last episode, he admitted to her that he panicked and wanted to leave but his co-pilot insisted on staying. The co-pilot was killed during the rescue.
"I miss Darva Conger." - Phonegrrrl
SO.......did Rebecca kiss Joe OR did Joe kiss Rebecca.
This could get verrrrry interesting.
I was cracking up when Kitty and Nora went to get the trophy back and they were grilling the kids