Sopranos 6th Season - Page 30

finalefan · 06-13-2007, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KeepItReal

...or maybe it was like someone mentioned before, the audience got whacked. Maybe life goes on as usual for the Soprano family, but we, the audience, have seen too much and know to much, and so we had to go.

Maybe we, like the mobsters we loved to watch, just never saw it coming.

I think this is best theory out there! And if that was David Chase's intention, wow, that's actually brilliant. Maybe not as satisfying as some would like, but pretty dang brilliant nonetheless.

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Harvest · 06-13-2007, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bbnbama

It was Journey!

Ah, ever since I heard on The OC that Journey was Ryan's favorite band I have wondered what Journey sounded like

Justafan1 · 06-14-2007, 11:34 PM

"Sopranos" rub-out theory gains credence - Yahoo! News

"Sopranos" rub-out theory gains credence By Steve Gorman
53 minutes ago

Fans of "The Sopranos" are seizing on clues suggesting the controversial blackout which abruptly ended the TV mob drama meant that Tony Soprano was rubbed out, and HBO said on Thursday they may be on to something.

One clue in particular, a flashback in the penultimate episode to a conversation between Tony and his brother-in-law about death, gained credence as an HBO spokesman called it a "legitimate" hint and confirmed that series creator David Chase had a definite ending in mind.

"While he won't say to me 100 percent what it all means, he says some people who've guessed have come closer than others," HBO spokesman Quentin Schaffer told Reuters after speaking to Chase.

"There are definitely things there that he intended for people to pick up on," Schaffer said.

Chase himself suggested as much in an interview on Tuesday with The Star-Ledger newspaper of New Jersey when he said of his end to the HBO series, "Anyone who wants to watch it, it's all there."

In the final moments of Sunday's concluding episode, Tony, the conflicted mob boss who has just survived a round of gangland warfare, sits in a diner with his family munching on onion rings as the 1980s song by rock band Journey, "Don't Stop Believing," blares from a juke box.

Tension builds as a suspicious man wearing a "Members Only" jacket eyes Tony from a nearby counter before slipping into a restroom. Then, as Tony looks toward the restaurant's entrance, the screen abruptly goes blank in mid-scene -- with no picture or sound for 10 seconds -- until the credits roll silently.

Stunned viewers, many initially believing something had gone wrong with their cable TV reception, were left wondering whether Tony ended up "whacked" or whether his sordid life went on as usual.

The jarring, fill-in-the-blank finale, concluding a show widely hailed as America's greatest television drama, sparked a furious debate about whether Chase had conceived of an actual ending and whether he left the audience any clues.

The biggest hint, according to a consensus taking shape on the Web, is a scene from an earlier episode in which Tony and his brother-in-law, Bobby Bacala, muse about what it feels like to die.

"At the end, you probably don't hear anything, everything just goes black," Bobby says while they sit fishing in a small boat on a lake.

That scene is recalled briefly in a flashback played at the end of the penultimate "Sopranos" episode, as Tony is lying in the darkened room of a safehouse clutching a machine gun to his chest in the midst of a mob war.

"I think that is one of the most legitimate things to look at," Schaffer said when asked about theories that the Bobby Bacala flashback was meant to foreshadow Tony's death.

Moreover, he said the man in the "Members Only" jacket could be interpreted as a symbolic reference to membership in the mob. "Members Only" also was the title of the episode in which Tony's demented Uncle Junior shoots him in the gut.

The "Members Only" guy was played by the owner of a real-life pizza parlor, Paolo Colandrea. Schaffer denied reports that Colandrea had appeared earlier in the series as the nephew of Tony's New York gang rival, or that there ever was such a character. He also dismissed reports that Chase had filmed more than one ending to the finale.

Justafan1 · 06-15-2007, 10:54 AM

'Sopranos' sail off for charity, and still don't know how they ended up

Do we look dead?

'Sopranos' sail off for charity, and still don't know how they ended up

By DENIS HAMILL

DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Friday, June 15th 2007, 4:00 AM

"I have no idea what happened to Tony," actor James Gandolfini said last night, standing aboard The Highlander, the Forbes family yacht at Pier 60 on Manhattan's West Side.

"You have to ask ["The Sopranos" creator] David Chase that. Smarter minds than mine know the answer to that. I thought it was a great ending. You decide."

Gandolfini was joining most of the cast of "The Sopranos" for a fund-raising cruise to benefit St. Jude Children's Research Hospital - Tony (Paulie Walnuts) Sirico's pet charity.

The stars defended the ending - which had the screen cut to black as Tony's family sat down to dinner - even if not all of the actors understood it.

"I have no idea why I had so much trouble parallel parking at the end," said Jamie-Lynn Sigler, who played Meadow Soprano.

"It was on the page, and like always, I played what was written. But I loved the ending. I can't think of a single better way to have ended this show."

Edie Falco, who played Tony's wife, Carmela, said that after a sad goodbye, it was nice to have the old gang together for charity. "No one says no to Tony Sirico," she said. "But I don't think it will be long before we all see each other again."

Was she talking about a hotly rumored movie that would clear up the ending many fans felt was too ambiguous?

"God, no," Falco said. "I don't mean that. I think the ending was just great. I mean that. I have never second-guessed David Chase, and I'm not about to start now."

"Yes, I was at that table, but I have no idea what happened after the screen went blank."

Sirico couldn't understand the criticism of the finale.

"I thought the ending was outstanding. We got Phil Leotardo. We went back to our lives," he said. "What do people want? More blood? A whole family whacked? I like that David Chase let the viewers decide."

Aida Turturro, who played Tony Soprano's erratic sister, Janice, floated two theories as she wobbled across the lolling money-green yacht.

"Tony and Bobby talked a few episodes back about how when you finally get hit, you never see it coming and the world just goes black," she said.

"The other one is that they just live their lives as a family, and we just left them in the middle of their lives."

Like Turturro, Steven Van Zandt, who played Silvio, was glad the ending kept viewers - and castmates - guessing.

"A conventional ending would have been a fraud," said Van Zandt, a member of Bruce Springsteen's E Street Band.

"Life doesn't have tidy little endings. Even some great songs just fade out like the last episode of 'The Sopranos.'"

"But on my Sirius radio show, I see the opinions shifting across the country. It started out fifty-fifty, and by last night, it was eighty-twenty in favor of the ending.

"It's also a lie that we shot three or four endings. David Chase, who wrote and directed the last episode, did one ending. He knew what he wanted, and it was great. Like the show."

Billionaire Steve Forbes stood at the door of the family yacht donated for the night and greeted all the stars and guests, who paid $500 a head to climb aboard.

"I have no idea what happened to Tony Soprano," Forbes said. "I do know that when it ended, I threw around several four-letter words like Tony Soprano would have and thought my cable went out."

"I hope the creator, David Chase, rushes the movie into production because I want to know how it ended."

Gandolfini insisted he didn't have an inside line on that.

"The ending was exactly what it should have been," he said. "Don't look at me, I don't have an answer. All I know is that it's over."

Justafan1 · 06-16-2007, 10:24 PM

And finally, THE best and detailed explanation of the series ending I've read so far. With pics.

Definitely worth reading because many of us (me included) missed so many obvious clues by Chase.

And I'm done with it.

BobHarris.com - Tony Soprano didn’t just get whacked; he practically got a funeral

bbnbama · 06-17-2007, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Justafan1

And finally, THE best and detailed explanation of the series ending I've read so far. With pics.

Definitely worth reading because many of us (me included) missed so many obvious clues by Chase.

And I'm done with it.

BobHarris.com - Tony Soprano didn’t just get whacked; he practically got a funeral

Holy cannoli...that is absolutely fascinating!!! Its like Lost...I feel like I need to go back and watch again to catch all that stuff....I think I'm just sitting there watching a finale when in reality I should have been paying attention to all those clues!

Regardless, I have to say that I feel kinda sad knowing that maybe it meant that Tony was whacked....poor Carmela!!!

Harvest · 06-18-2007, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justafan1

And finally, THE best and detailed explanation of the series ending I've read so far. With pics.
BobHarris.com - Tony Soprano didn’t just get whacked; he practically got a funeral

Thank you, that was awesome!

KeepItReal · 06-18-2007, 09:55 PM

Hmmmm, haven't peeked in here in a minute but interesting to see where the theories have gone. Just throwing in another interesting reference from the last show. Agent Harris exclaims "We're gonna win this one" or something to that fact. From what I've read , there was a real life agent named Lindley Delvecchio who was indicted for assisting his informant by providing information for 3 or 4 hits on their enemies. He allegedly said the exact same words as Agent Harris when he learned that the hits were carried out.

So I guess what it all boils down to is this big jigsaw puzzle where people will keep coming along and explaining what each piece means. It's fun to read the theories, but I came to my little conclusion a while ago and in my mind the puzzle was solved and I left it alone. I'm just gonna ride that little wave of inner peace and stick with it-lol

06-14-2007, 11:34 PM	#293
Justafan1 FORT Fogey Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,914	Re: Sopranos 6th Season "Sopranos" rub-out theory gains credence - Yahoo! News "Sopranos" rub-out theory gains credence By Steve Gorman 53 minutes ago Fans of "The Sopranos" are seizing on clues suggesting the controversial blackout which abruptly ended the TV mob drama meant that Tony Soprano was rubbed out, and HBO said on Thursday they may be on to something. One clue in particular, a flashback in the penultimate episode to a conversation between Tony and his brother-in-law about death, gained credence as an HBO spokesman called it a "legitimate" hint and confirmed that series creator David Chase had a definite ending in mind. "While he won't say to me 100 percent what it all means, he says some people who've guessed have come closer than others," HBO spokesman Quentin Schaffer told Reuters after speaking to Chase. "There are definitely things there that he intended for people to pick up on," Schaffer said. Chase himself suggested as much in an interview on Tuesday with The Star-Ledger newspaper of New Jersey when he said of his end to the HBO series, "Anyone who wants to watch it, it's all there." In the final moments of Sunday's concluding episode, Tony, the conflicted mob boss who has just survived a round of gangland warfare, sits in a diner with his family munching on onion rings as the 1980s song by rock band Journey, "Don't Stop Believing," blares from a juke box. Tension builds as a suspicious man wearing a "Members Only" jacket eyes Tony from a nearby counter before slipping into a restroom. Then, as Tony looks toward the restaurant's entrance, the screen abruptly goes blank in mid-scene -- with no picture or sound for 10 seconds -- until the credits roll silently. Stunned viewers, many initially believing something had gone wrong with their cable TV reception, were left wondering whether Tony ended up "whacked" or whether his sordid life went on as usual. The jarring, fill-in-the-blank finale, concluding a show widely hailed as America's greatest television drama, sparked a furious debate about whether Chase had conceived of an actual ending and whether he left the audience any clues. The biggest hint, according to a consensus taking shape on the Web, is a scene from an earlier episode in which Tony and his brother-in-law, Bobby Bacala, muse about what it feels like to die. "At the end, you probably don't hear anything, everything just goes black," Bobby says while they sit fishing in a small boat on a lake. That scene is recalled briefly in a flashback played at the end of the penultimate "Sopranos" episode, as Tony is lying in the darkened room of a safehouse clutching a machine gun to his chest in the midst of a mob war. "I think that is one of the most legitimate things to look at," Schaffer said when asked about theories that the Bobby Bacala flashback was meant to foreshadow Tony's death. Moreover, he said the man in the "Members Only" jacket could be interpreted as a symbolic reference to membership in the mob. "Members Only" also was the title of the episode in which Tony's demented Uncle Junior shoots him in the gut. The "Members Only" guy was played by the owner of a real-life pizza parlor, Paolo Colandrea. Schaffer denied reports that Colandrea had appeared earlier in the series as the nephew of Tony's New York gang rival, or that there ever was such a character. He also dismissed reports that Chase had filmed more than one ending to the finale.

06-15-2007, 10:54 AM	#294
Justafan1 FORT Fogey Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,914	Re: Sopranos 6th Season 'Sopranos' sail off for charity, and still don't know how they ended up Do we look dead? 'Sopranos' sail off for charity, and still don't know how they ended up By DENIS HAMILL DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER Friday, June 15th 2007, 4:00 AM "I have no idea what happened to Tony," actor James Gandolfini said last night, standing aboard The Highlander, the Forbes family yacht at Pier 60 on Manhattan's West Side. "You have to ask ["The Sopranos" creator] David Chase that. Smarter minds than mine know the answer to that. I thought it was a great ending. You decide." Gandolfini was joining most of the cast of "The Sopranos" for a fund-raising cruise to benefit St. Jude Children's Research Hospital - Tony (Paulie Walnuts) Sirico's pet charity. The stars defended the ending - which had the screen cut to black as Tony's family sat down to dinner - even if not all of the actors understood it. "I have no idea why I had so much trouble parallel parking at the end," said Jamie-Lynn Sigler, who played Meadow Soprano. "It was on the page, and like always, I played what was written. But I loved the ending. I can't think of a single better way to have ended this show." Edie Falco, who played Tony's wife, Carmela, said that after a sad goodbye, it was nice to have the old gang together for charity. "No one says no to Tony Sirico," she said. "But I don't think it will be long before we all see each other again." Was she talking about a hotly rumored movie that would clear up the ending many fans felt was too ambiguous? "God, no," Falco said. "I don't mean that. I think the ending was just great. I mean that. I have never second-guessed David Chase, and I'm not about to start now." "Yes, I was at that table, but I have no idea what happened after the screen went blank." Sirico couldn't understand the criticism of the finale. "I thought the ending was outstanding. We got Phil Leotardo. We went back to our lives," he said. "What do people want? More blood? A whole family whacked? I like that David Chase let the viewers decide." Aida Turturro, who played Tony Soprano's erratic sister, Janice, floated two theories as she wobbled across the lolling money-green yacht. "Tony and Bobby talked a few episodes back about how when you finally get hit, you never see it coming and the world just goes black," she said. "The other one is that they just live their lives as a family, and we just left them in the middle of their lives." Like Turturro, Steven Van Zandt, who played Silvio, was glad the ending kept viewers - and castmates - guessing. "A conventional ending would have been a fraud," said Van Zandt, a member of Bruce Springsteen's E Street Band. "Life doesn't have tidy little endings. Even some great songs just fade out like the last episode of 'The Sopranos.'" "But on my Sirius radio show, I see the opinions shifting across the country. It started out fifty-fifty, and by last night, it was eighty-twenty in favor of the ending. "It's also a lie that we shot three or four endings. David Chase, who wrote and directed the last episode, did one ending. He knew what he wanted, and it was great. Like the show." Billionaire Steve Forbes stood at the door of the family yacht donated for the night and greeted all the stars and guests, who paid $500 a head to climb aboard. "I have no idea what happened to Tony Soprano," Forbes said. "I do know that when it ended, I threw around several four-letter words like Tony Soprano would have and thought my cable went out." "I hope the creator, David Chase, rushes the movie into production because I want to know how it ended." Gandolfini insisted he didn't have an inside line on that. "The ending was exactly what it should have been," he said. "Don't look at me, I don't have an answer. All I know is that it's over."

06-16-2007, 10:24 PM	#295
Justafan1 FORT Fogey Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,914	Re: Sopranos 6th Season And finally, THE best and detailed explanation of the series ending I've read so far. With pics. Definitely worth reading because many of us (me included) missed so many obvious clues by Chase. And I'm done with it. BobHarris.com - Tony Soprano didn’t just get whacked; he practically got a funeral

06-18-2007, 09:55 PM	#298
KeepItReal FORT Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 728	Re: Sopranos 6th Season Hmmmm, haven't peeked in here in a minute but interesting to see where the theories have gone. Just throwing in another interesting reference from the last show. Agent Harris exclaims "We're gonna win this one" or something to that fact. From what I've read , there was a real life agent named Lindley Delvecchio who was indicted for assisting his informant by providing information for 3 or 4 hits on their enemies. He allegedly said the exact same words as Agent Harris when he learned that the hits were carried out. So I guess what it all boils down to is this big jigsaw puzzle where people will keep coming along and explaining what each piece means. It's fun to read the theories, but I came to my little conclusion a while ago and in my mind the puzzle was solved and I left it alone. I'm just gonna ride that little wave of inner peace and stick with it-lol