Well, now that we all agree that one group is getting no treatment, then, again, I say that some would argue that it's unethical to withhold treatment from people who need it.
Lucky22, I agree with both of your comments above. I think life is about making choices and if Derek makes the choice to hold his research study in higher regard then his marriage or the child they want to adopt, then Meredith is better without him. I also think that him saying what she did was wrong, is a personal judgment that just muddies the water in terms of the research. He could say, she didn't follow protocol or procedure, but to say she doesn't know the difference between right or wrong is just ridiculous.
It's unethical to provide experimental treatment to all people involved in the study at this point in the study. That happens in later stages of human subject studies once statistical significance can be proven due to the likelihood of side effects and the risk does not outweigh the benefit of it if there is no benefit to it, especially when benefit can only be proven by being compared to the standard of treatment which in the case of alzheimers there is no treatment for alzheimers progressed to the stage that they representing in the show.
I would be beyond angry if Meredith had screwed with my study like that. She not only messed up his deal, but funding for the hospital for this deal, funding for future studies, messed it up for existing subjects. The ripple effect of her bad choice is unbelievable.
It seems so logical and ethical to give everyone all the experimental treatments until you're stuck in the middle of it trying to balance risk and benefit and prove the effectiveness so more people can actually be helped or the treatment can be tweeked to help more people instead of just given out on a whim.
In a funded medical study, you've either to to play by the rules and guidelines, or risk your reputation and funding. Science doesn't allow for you to let your heart lead you.
What Meredith did, even if her heart was in the right place, put the entire hospital at risk for medical ethics questions. She may have been trying to help one person but, if Derek's drug proved effective, he could have saved millions.
Once Derek's treatment is proven to work and be safe, then they should give it to everyone...sometimes if it is clear a new therapy is working well they will stop the study mid-study and give it everyone.
My son is part of a study for cancer. We were told in the beginning that basically it is phase 1 which means the clinical part is over, everyone will receive the treatment however this phase is really to see how it effects people, i.e, whether they get too sick to continue or die. Yippee.... lol. Luckily we have not had too many horrible side effects and it appears to be doing something to his cancer in a good way. It sucks that it has to be the way it is but procedures have to remain in place to safeguard treatment for the rest of the population.
Wow, just because I am putting for an alternative point of view, does not mean that I do not understand how medical trials are run or how non-medical research is done . Also, I have been saying that some could argue that it is unethical, I did not indicate my opinion on the matter. I mean, didn't the episode include a scene where the wife of a person in the trial was arguing that there was medication in the hospital that could help her husband? I got the impression that she didn't think it was fair that her husband wasn't getting the medication regardless of whatever she may have agreed upon at the beginning of the trial or whether the treatment has been proven to be effective.
Thus the difference between scientific people and non-scientific people. And there is nothing wrong with either category.....they just exist.
I have a scientific mind. My son....my one and only....definitely has a non-scientific mind. It drives me CRAZY :wallbang, but that's just the way it is. We work through it, even though it breaks my heart!!!
I watched the last few episodes of GA's episodes over the weekend. I regret I've been missing out. I think the show's charm has returned. I will keep turning in for sure.
REF. the Research Trials. I'm pretty much a rules player. I'm one who's in favor of following the letter of the law, even if a killer might go free, but as I have gotten older, I am now more understanding when someone makes a hard choice. Yes, it might be the wrong thing to do, but was it the only thing you could do and live with yourself. That's pretty tough. I honestly don't think I would do what Meredith did, but I can understand her. If it messed up my Study and ruined my career, I might not be so forgiving, but I think I could understand it.