Lost - Season 1. - Page 76

Kramerica · 10-22-2004, 02:42 PM

I think they are all dead. Everyone died from the crash. They are in Purgatory. If you think about all the backstories we have seen so far, everyone's character has shown both good and evil. That would explain all the "magical" powers and things that are unexplainable on the island.
What do you guys think?

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CharlieBug · 10-22-2004, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JulyMeg

Going along with people's names... Wasn't it revealed through a flashback that Jack's last name is "Shepherd"? As in, the flock needs a shepherd-- the same idea that Locke was telling him in the jungle: "These people need a leader."

I think you're right. I have the show on tape and need to watch it again to be sure. But your theory is a good one!

Jay · 10-22-2004, 04:56 PM

The hotel concierge mentioned Jack's father's name as Sheppard or Shepherd.

toque · 10-22-2004, 05:32 PM

Thanks, JulyMeg, for finding out Jack's last name! I think you're right that it implies that the people need him as a shepherd or leader.

I'm not saying it is intentionally related, but the mention of the name Shepherd reminded me of one of the most famous references to being a shepherd... Psalm 23.
"The Lord is my shepard. I shall not be in want.
He makes me lie down in green pastures,
he leads me beside quiet waters,
he restores my soul...
Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
I will fear no evil,
for you are with me..."

Perhaps I like it because it ties in with my "fear" theme...

One other thing... Boone asked Jack "Why do you think that you have to be everyone's saviour?" At the time, I remember thinking this was a weird choice of words... so far Jack had been called hero, but never saviour.

On a different note, if we find out Charlies' last name is Brown, I will

JulyMeg · 10-22-2004, 05:42 PM

You're welcome touque!

That's great stuff you just mentioned, too-- interesting that the name "Shepherd" would make people think of religious references, while Jack, as we have seen, claims religion "is not [his] thing." Hmmm...

Jay · 10-22-2004, 05:51 PM

I think Jack's dad is dead. His subconcious dug up his father because Jack wants to prove that he isn't a loser or a failure. "Look, Dad, these people depend on me, they look up to me and they respect me."

Empty coffin? Maybe it isn't empty (ugh!) and Jack's mind refuses to acknowledge it.

Catt · 10-22-2004, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay

I think Jack's dad is dead. His subconcious dug up his father because Jack wants to prove that he isn't a loser or a failure. "Look, Dad, these people depend on me, they look up to me and they respect me."

I agree that he is probably dead. After surviving the crash, Jack's immediatly perceived as the leader. And now he's sleep deprived, tired, hungry, and scared. He just wants some respect and validation of his abilities from his Dad...especially if they had a falling out and he no chance to make up with his Dad.

dagwood · 10-22-2004, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by touque

On a different note, if we find out Charlies' last name is Brown, I will

Sorry, Touque, but according to Driveshafts website his name is Charlie Pace.

the site again

Jay · 10-22-2004, 10:03 PM

Great news for late arriving Canadian fans. CTV is planning on airing the first two episodes on November 1 starting at 8 PM.

Gutmutter · 10-22-2004, 10:15 PM

Then he'd better "pace" himself with those drugs. He wasn't the drummer for the band was he? (Setting the "pace")

10-22-2004, 02:42 PM	#751
Kramerica FORT Newbie Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 46	Purgatory I think they are all dead. Everyone died from the crash. They are in Purgatory. If you think about all the backstories we have seen so far, everyone's character has shown both good and evil. That would explain all the "magical" powers and things that are unexplainable on the island. What do you guys think?

10-22-2004, 10:15 PM	#760
Gutmutter volcano goddess Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: about to erupt Posts: 6,167	Then he'd better "pace" himself with those drugs. He wasn't the drummer for the band was he? (Setting the "pace") __________________ Count your blessings!

10-22-2004, 04:56 PM	#753
Jay You're a mean one Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,268	The hotel concierge mentioned Jack's father's name as Sheppard or Shepherd.

10-22-2004, 05:32 PM	#754
toque FORT Fogey Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,075	Thanks, JulyMeg, for finding out Jack's last name! I think you're right that it implies that the people need him as a shepherd or leader. I'm not saying it is intentionally related, but the mention of the name Shepherd reminded me of one of the most famous references to being a shepherd... Psalm 23. "The Lord is my shepard. I shall not be in want. He makes me lie down in green pastures, he leads me beside quiet waters, he restores my soul... Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for you are with me..." Perhaps I like it because it ties in with my "fear" theme... One other thing... Boone asked Jack "Why do you think that you have to be everyone's saviour?" At the time, I remember thinking this was a weird choice of words... so far Jack had been called hero, but never saviour. On a different note, if we find out Charlies' last name is Brown, I will

10-22-2004, 05:42 PM	#755
JulyMeg Defending the FORT Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 224	You're welcome touque! That's great stuff you just mentioned, too-- interesting that the name "Shepherd" would make people think of religious references, while Jack, as we have seen, claims religion "is not [his] thing." Hmmm...

10-22-2004, 05:51 PM	#756
Jay You're a mean one Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,268	I think Jack's dad is dead. His subconcious dug up his father because Jack wants to prove that he isn't a loser or a failure. "Look, Dad, these people depend on me, they look up to me and they respect me." Empty coffin? Maybe it isn't empty (ugh!) and Jack's mind refuses to acknowledge it.

10-22-2004, 10:03 PM	#759
Jay You're a mean one Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,268	Great news for late arriving Canadian fans. CTV is planning on airing the first two episodes on November 1 starting at 8 PM.