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Old 10-21-2004, 12:19 PM   #701
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And it hammers home the idea that Jack was dependant on alcohol like his father. The fact that he kept hearing ice cubes tinkling in a glass before a hallucination also supports cwipperman's theory that Jack is suffering withdrawal.
In which case, it is pretty cute of the producers to use Jack's withdrawal from drinking during the same show that everyone's running around looking for drink.
Wow - that's good touque. I, too, heard the ice cubes tinkling in the glass. Didn't put the withdrawal from drinking together with the lack of water though .
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Old 10-21-2004, 12:19 PM   #702
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Here's something I noticed that may or may not be relevant: when Jack kept seeing his dad, his dad was in a suit -- looked to me like a suit you'd put on a body for a funeral. I think if I were hallucinating one of my parents, I'd see them as they usually dressed, and since his dad was a doctor, I don't think he'd typically wear a suit.
I don't actually think his dad is still alive, it's just the suit thing struck me as odd.
What's even odder is that I think Mr Sheppard was wearing white (running?) shoes with his dark blue suit. This may or may not mean anything but since he's dead, why not be comfortable?
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I noticed the shoes too, Jay.
And I interpreted the ice-tinkling noise to the idea that Jack's dad drank so much that he associated that noise with his father.
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Old 10-21-2004, 12:26 PM   #704
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Wow - that's good touque. I, too, heard the ice cubes tinkling in the glass. Didn't put the withdrawal from drinking together with the lack of water though .
I don't think it's significant, but maybe just a cute little piece of irony. I wouldn't put it past them.

Just occured to me.
"Living is easier with eyes closed" Does anyone want to make guesses as to what this might mean within the context of the show?
-My first thought was drug or alcohol dependancy helps living to be easier because you live in kind of unreal haze. Seems to have become a theme.
-My second thought is when you are dead, generally they close your eyes. Could their living become easier because they are dead?? Would be true for Locke.... That's a stretch but it's just a thought.
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Old 10-21-2004, 12:29 PM   #705
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Jack said to his mother that his father hasn't spoken to him in two months. What did Jack do or didn't do that disappointed his father? I think that Jack, throughout his entire life, could not do anything that would please his father. Recall his father calling Jack onto the carpet for trying to save his friend from bullies.

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Old 10-21-2004, 12:31 PM   #706
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This has been mentioned by someone else before... but perhaps he lost his license to practice medicine somehow??
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I wonder if maybe Jack had decided he didn't enjoy medicine and didn't want to continue being a doctor, and that's why he and his father were estranged.
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Old 10-21-2004, 12:48 PM   #708
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I can see his father pushing Jack into medicine to become a surgeon like him.

Strawberry Fields sounds like a refuge, a refuge from the stresses of life. Some of the characters have had to deal with stress before the crash. I wish we knew more about Hurley, Sawyer, Boone and Shannon and what their stories are.
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Old 10-21-2004, 12:50 PM   #709
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Ok - probably out a a limb here, but I was thinking somehow Jack destroyed his father's abilities/career as a surgeon (maybe, under pressure, botched an operation on his dad somehow, leaving him unable to operate and causing him to take Chief of Surgery managerial/admin position instead of actually operating) OR that he turned his father in / testified against him in some sort of malpractice claim. That would have turned his father to the bottle.
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Jack said to his mother that his father hasn't spoken to him in two months. What did Jack do or didn't do that disappointed his father? I think that Jack, throughout his entire life, could not do anything that would please his father. Recall his father calling Jack onto the carpet for trying to save his friend from bullies.
Maybe that's why he's so desperate to save everyone now? It's like he's driven to be the hero.
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