The 4400 - Page 14

Rumi · 06-30-2005, 05:06 PM

Thanks for the DVR tips - Its so irritating when it cuts out before the show is over.

I said it before and I'll say it again, these writers are over their heads. Maybe they can get some help.

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Toby · 06-30-2005, 07:07 PM

Thanks for letting me know about Thinner - I must be thinking of something else. Anyways...

It will be interesting to see the interaction between Jordan and Isabel. So curious why he wanted her in the shelter so badly.

Justafan1 · 07-10-2005, 11:12 PM

Great episode tonight.

Wolf · 07-11-2005, 03:41 AM

I wonder what the baby, Isabel, is up to. What are her motives to make Jordan believe he would be safe? Now that Lily suspects that Isabel hurt her older child, will Isabel try to hurt her? So many questions.

At least we know what Kyle has been doing when he blacks out.

**hepcat** · 07-11-2005, 03:43 AM

Help, Wolf! I was in and out, and I missed the explanation for Kyle's blackouts. I saw something about digging, but that was it.

So many questions raised by this week!

Bearcata · 07-11-2005, 07:57 AM

Kyle was the assasin that shot Jordan. What didn't make any sense is that the last sence of the episode showed Kyle packing his guns away bare handed (fingerprints, latent DNA, folks please this was so stupid) and then tossing the duffel bag into this shallow pond not more that 3 or 4 feet from the edge.
Can we can DUH, come catch me.

Also after shooting someone do you really exit a building in broad daylight in black cammies and a black ski mask covering your head and face. Another DUH moment.

I'll let the Jordan moment go as it is a mystery and we will wait to see what happens but it is an oppurtunity for Shawn to grow. The scene were he is act Jordan's desk and the cleaned up drug addict comes in reminds me of the the previous pattern of a powerful Jordan and woman being attracted to him. DEJA VU. mmmmm Shawn as a minime Jordan.

The entire scene with Isabel bursting Heidi's spleen I don't know, definitely weird. The kid comes across as the Spawn of Satan.

speedbump · 07-11-2005, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcata

Kyle was the assasin that shot Jordan. What didn't make any sense is that the last sence of the episode showed Kyle packing his guns away bare handed (fingerprints, latent DNA, folks please this was so stupid) and then tossing the duffel bag into this shallow pond not more that 3 or 4 feet from the edge.
Can we can DUH, come catch me.

I thought the same thing but remember, this could be during one of his blackout scenes so he's not working with a full bag of marbles to begin with. I thought it was pretty good to make him the killer. I'm sure it will raise some moral questions in the future when and I speculate only-- daddy has to pull the trigger.

The Isabel thing has to go. Either that or at least fill us in on what her purpose is. I love a good suspense story like anyone else but this is getting a little too over the top.

With all my gripes out of the way, I still thought it was a great epsiode. This is the one show that I look forward to each week!

Blackshade · 07-11-2005, 01:06 PM

I'm not sure I am ready to right off Isabelle as a the spawn of satan just yet. She is obviously a key component to saving the future and I think it maybe some misdirection going with her. What we do know is that she strikes out when she feels threatened such as when she killed the guys in the woods who would have killed Lily, Richard, and herself if she hadn't.

We also know that she gave Jordan a false future image to get him to go through with the reunion celebration and thus get him killed but I am wondering if Jordan had served his purpose to ensure the future. Maybe he was taken because the future needed someone with his financial ability and drive to get the 4400 Center started but needed Shawn to run it.

I think there maybe some misdirection with Heidi and her injury. It is very much possible that it was caused by Isabelle but it is also possible that it was a just freak occurrence (I know not likely). One thing I have noticed is when Isabelle uses her powers she seems to focus on the person as in the woods with the 3 men and when she "showed" her dad her powers when he was wondering her purpose or she has to touch them such as with Jordan when he tried to restrain Lily and when she showed him the false future. If she used her powers this time she did neither but instead just cried when Heidi came in the room and there was a time delay to the injury. It is probable that it was Isabelle that caused the injury but I am not convinced just yet.

But if it was Isabelle it could also be as simple as a jealous sibling not wanting another one to receive their mother's attention. Back in the original run last summer, when Lily was watching Heidi through the window Isabelle made it obvious she didn't like it. If she really wanted Heidi dead she could have made her have a heart attack like she did with the old guy in the woods. I'm still not sure if Isabelle has a real understanding of her powers or if she is using them on instinct. A lot more to reveal here which should be interesting.

Miss Understood · 07-11-2005, 08:39 PM

Mabye Isabelle was crying because she knew Heidi was sick??

cadcmmngs · 07-13-2005, 10:02 PM

Good episode! I read that the actor who plays Jordan just wanted some time off but he's coming back to the series. Not sure how they'll play that one, since we all saw the funeral. I wonder if Isabelle was supposed to ensure Jordan was shot so he could be spirited off somewhere (future?). I'm hoping she isn't an evil bambino. Anyone else know it was Kyle as soon as the shooter appeared on the roof?

Next week's episode looks good, too!

06-30-2005, 05:06 PM	#131
Rumi FORT Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hurricane Alley Posts: 747	Thanks for the DVR tips - Its so irritating when it cuts out before the show is over. I said it before and I'll say it again, these writers are over their heads. Maybe they can get some help. __________________ Support the FORT - Go Green

06-30-2005, 07:07 PM	#132
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07-11-2005, 03:41 AM	#134
Wolf Combat Missions Fan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Texas, of course! Posts: 7,916	I wonder what the baby, Isabel, is up to. What are her motives to make Jordan believe he would be safe? Now that Lily suspects that Isabel hurt her older child, will Isabel try to hurt her? So many questions. At least we know what Kyle has been doing when he blacks out. __________________ Katrina Disaster Relief: How to give or get help in Texas/Southwest region. Donate to The Humane Society of the United States disaster relief and to the ASPCA. Our four-legged friends need our help too.

07-11-2005, 03:43 AM	#135
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07-11-2005, 07:57 AM	#136
Bearcata what a strong finger Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: the edge of the beltway Posts: 6,871	Kyle was the assasin that shot Jordan. What didn't make any sense is that the last sence of the episode showed Kyle packing his guns away bare handed (fingerprints, latent DNA, folks please this was so stupid) and then tossing the duffel bag into this shallow pond not more that 3 or 4 feet from the edge. Can we can DUH, come catch me. Also after shooting someone do you really exit a building in broad daylight in black cammies and a black ski mask covering your head and face. Another DUH moment. I'll let the Jordan moment go as it is a mystery and we will wait to see what happens but it is an oppurtunity for Shawn to grow. The scene were he is act Jordan's desk and the cleaned up drug addict comes in reminds me of the the previous pattern of a powerful Jordan and woman being attracted to him. DEJA VU. mmmmm Shawn as a minime Jordan. The entire scene with Isabel bursting Heidi's spleen I don't know, definitely weird. The kid comes across as the Spawn of Satan. Last edited by Bearcata; 07-11-2005 at 08:00 AM.

07-10-2005, 11:12 PM	#133
Justafan1 FORT Fogey Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,914	Great episode tonight.

07-11-2005, 01:06 PM	#138
Blackshade Mean SOB Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 735	I'm not sure I am ready to right off Isabelle as a the spawn of satan just yet. She is obviously a key component to saving the future and I think it maybe some misdirection going with her. What we do know is that she strikes out when she feels threatened such as when she killed the guys in the woods who would have killed Lily, Richard, and herself if she hadn't. We also know that she gave Jordan a false future image to get him to go through with the reunion celebration and thus get him killed but I am wondering if Jordan had served his purpose to ensure the future. Maybe he was taken because the future needed someone with his financial ability and drive to get the 4400 Center started but needed Shawn to run it. I think there maybe some misdirection with Heidi and her injury. It is very much possible that it was caused by Isabelle but it is also possible that it was a just freak occurrence (I know not likely). One thing I have noticed is when Isabelle uses her powers she seems to focus on the person as in the woods with the 3 men and when she "showed" her dad her powers when he was wondering her purpose or she has to touch them such as with Jordan when he tried to restrain Lily and when she showed him the false future. If she used her powers this time she did neither but instead just cried when Heidi came in the room and there was a time delay to the injury. It is probable that it was Isabelle that caused the injury but I am not convinced just yet. But if it was Isabelle it could also be as simple as a jealous sibling not wanting another one to receive their mother's attention. Back in the original run last summer, when Lily was watching Heidi through the window Isabelle made it obvious she didn't like it. If she really wanted Heidi dead she could have made her have a heart attack like she did with the old guy in the woods. I'm still not sure if Isabelle has a real understanding of her powers or if she is using them on instinct. A lot more to reveal here which should be interesting. Last edited by Blackshade; 07-11-2005 at 01:09 PM.

07-11-2005, 08:39 PM	#139
Miss Understood FORT Fan Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Hangin Out Posts: 298	Mabye Isabelle was crying because she knew Heidi was sick??

07-13-2005, 10:02 PM	#140
cadcmmngs Florence Y'All Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Florence, KY Age: 45 Posts: 374	Good episode! I read that the actor who plays Jordan just wanted some time off but he's coming back to the series. Not sure how they'll play that one, since we all saw the funeral. I wonder if Isabelle was supposed to ensure Jordan was shot so he could be spirited off somewhere (future?). I'm hoping she isn't an evil bambino. Anyone else know it was Kyle as soon as the shooter appeared on the roof? Next week's episode looks good, too!