The 4400 - Page 11

PGM35 · 06-15-2005, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Grok

I've been thinking of a different interpretation of this. Richard had been wondering what was the plan or role for their baby to play in this world. I kind of got the impression that the baby then "showed" him what her part (and maybe, Richard's & Lilly's roles too) would be. And he became overwhelmed or breathless because of it, not that she was hurting him. Just a theory.

I agree with this theory. I think she was trying to show him and he couldn't take it or can't comprehend it. I think she is going to do more good than bad.

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Toby · 06-16-2005, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by LilLisaLou

I think that she is good because the trees bowed down to her in the season one finale.

See I have heard the phrase that "nature turns from evil". So that came to mind when I saw the trees in the finale and why I'm not convinced Isabel has good intentions.

Chorita KaBoom · 06-16-2005, 04:53 PM

I thought that babies personalities at that stage were more id based (primal needs - eat, sleep, poop, safety, comfort). While she has apparently manifested great power, I think her psychic link to her mother is what is directing her actions. I don't think that she really has the higher cognitive functions to distinguish between good and evil, etc. If she did then she would also be able to talk as well.

Toby · 06-17-2005, 12:12 PM

Good point. I do agree that there is some type of connection with Lilly. It could be seen even when Lilly took that money from the cash register in the hotel. Its like the baby is doing what Lilly may think is ethically wrong.

Rumi · 06-20-2005, 03:44 PM

This could have been a great show but the writers are not great.

It reminds me of Revelations, the mini series, started out good but then bored me with cheap thrills and twists. i want to care about these characters and I dont.

I was really hoping for a good summer series. Darn!

I miss LosT, Medium, Greys Anatomy, Survivor, House, Amazing Race, and Apprentice (sort of).

it's going to be a LONG summer.

Toby · 06-20-2005, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rumi

This could have been a great show but the writers are not great.

It reminds me of Revelations, the mini series, started out good but then bored me with cheap thrills and twists. i want to care about these characters and I dont.

I was really hoping for a good summer series. Darn!

I miss LosT, Medium, Greys Anatomy, Survivor, House, Amazing Race, and Apprentice (sort of).

it's going to be a LONG summer.

I watched Revelations too - and it was good, but I think 4400 is much better than the Apprentice. I was an apprentice fan in the beginning, but the only winner who has really done anything was Bill. Seems kind of pointless.

I liked last nights episode. The guy with the special saliva?? LOL. Never saw that one coming. I do think tho that shawn is going to turn against Jordan any day now.

speedbump · 06-20-2005, 06:57 PM

I'm still enjoying it. The 4400/ Dead Zone combo is fullfilling the Lost/ Alias combo that I loved.

The only plotline that is getting a little thin is the Lilly/ Isabel/ Richard. Although from next weeks previews it looks like their plot will spice up a bit.

Marlena_M · 06-21-2005, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Toby

The guy with the special saliva?? LOL. Never saw that one coming. I do think tho that shawn is going to turn against Jordan any day now.

I loved that! As soon as the 1st guy lost all that weight in 2 days I thought "but how would whatever-it-is know when to stop???"

I like the show but feel so lost since I never saw any of season 1. In fact, I never even heard of the show until the day season 2 started. But I am enjoying it.

Chorita KaBoom · 06-21-2005, 03:02 PM

I thought that Sundays show was just okay, but I saw the plot twist way to easily. I read Stephen Kings "Thinner", in high school. I mean come on.

I will give them credit for the Jordan/Shawn story line. The writers are making the 4400 Center sound a lot like Scientology, and Jordan is becoming Jim Jones.

sher · 06-21-2005, 06:23 PM

marlena, welcome to the fort! you can get the first season on DVD if you're interested in catching up!

also, i'm not tiring of the show at all... though, i wish lily weren't acting like such a self centered biatch these days. i liked it better when she was all sweet and upset by all the life changes rather than suddenly hardened.

06-16-2005, 04:53 PM	#103
Chorita KaBoom Fashionista Sandinista Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Right Here, Right Now! Age: 47 Posts: 1,366	I thought that babies personalities at that stage were more id based (primal needs - eat, sleep, poop, safety, comfort). While she has apparently manifested great power, I think her psychic link to her mother is what is directing her actions. I don't think that she really has the higher cognitive functions to distinguish between good and evil, etc. If she did then she would also be able to talk as well. __________________ there is no energy shortage, there is a shortage of imagination

06-17-2005, 12:12 PM	#104
Toby FORT Fogey Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Virginia Age: 26 Posts: 1,045	Good point. I do agree that there is some type of connection with Lilly. It could be seen even when Lilly took that money from the cash register in the hotel. Its like the baby is doing what Lilly may think is ethically wrong. __________________ "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." Benjamin Franklin.

06-20-2005, 03:44 PM	#105
Rumi FORT Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hurricane Alley Posts: 747	This could have been a great show but the writers are not great. It reminds me of Revelations, the mini series, started out good but then bored me with cheap thrills and twists. i want to care about these characters and I dont. I was really hoping for a good summer series. Darn! I miss LosT, Medium, Greys Anatomy, Survivor, House, Amazing Race, and Apprentice (sort of). it's going to be a LONG summer. __________________ Support the FORT - Go Green

06-20-2005, 06:57 PM	#107
speedbump Lord of the Vineyards Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NorCal Age: 35 Posts: 6,935 Blog Entries: 1	I'm still enjoying it. The 4400/ Dead Zone combo is fullfilling the Lost/ Alias combo that I loved. The only plotline that is getting a little thin is the Lilly/ Isabel/ Richard. Although from next weeks previews it looks like their plot will spice up a bit. __________________ You got to cry without weeping. Talk without speaking. Scream without raising your voice.- U2

06-21-2005, 03:02 PM	#109
Chorita KaBoom Fashionista Sandinista Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Right Here, Right Now! Age: 47 Posts: 1,366	I thought that Sundays show was just okay, but I saw the plot twist way to easily. I read Stephen Kings "Thinner", in high school. I mean come on. I will give them credit for the Jordan/Shawn story line. The writers are making the 4400 Center sound a lot like Scientology, and Jordan is becoming Jim Jones. __________________ there is no energy shortage, there is a shortage of imagination

06-21-2005, 06:23 PM	#110
sher hellooooooo Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: dallas, fer sure Age: 38 Posts: 8,551	marlena, welcome to the fort! you can get the first season on DVD if you're interested in catching up! also, i'm not tiring of the show at all... though, i wish lily weren't acting like such a self centered biatch these days. i liked it better when she was all sweet and upset by all the life changes rather than suddenly hardened.