The View

[lopevian]

Regarding the weight issue (from yesterday's show), there was a time in my life when it really bugged me to be told I'd lost weight, when these same people never said a word about my weight before that. I didn't need anyone to tell me I should lose weight, and I never wanted anyone to tell me that. But after I lost it, I didn't feel like hearing twenty people tell me I lost weight! I felt it was none of their business, and if they couldn't talk about my weight before, why did they think now it was okay? Because I was now "acceptable"? One woman, who ignored me when I was a fatty, as if I were an irrelevant human being, said, "you're a shadow of your former self!". These were the first words she ever uttered to me, and pretty much the last, because I told her, "considering you didn't even care to know my former self's name, I couldn't care less what you think". When another woman who had dismissed me in the past, because of my body, informed me that I had lost weight, I said, "oh, did you think I was fat?, because you never mentioned that to me, infact, you never spoke to me. I hardly see how my weight is any of your business now". I saw relationships with girlfriends change. it was fine when I was the non-threatening fatty, who made everyone else look good. Suddenly the idea of me getting asked out by someone, instead of them, was more than they could handle. And it wasn't just the women, it was the men too. They really pissed me off, because suddenly I became desirable. I told them no thanks, I still had the same personality, and if it wasn't good enough before, then you lose now. But I realized my personality had changed after I lost weight. I had become an angry young women (early twenties at the time). It had been a personal, private struggle when I fatty, it had been a personal, private struggle when I was dieting, and now suddenly everyone and their uncle was weighing in on my body. It freaked me out and I didn't handle it very well.

All these years later, I can still get a bit touchy about the subject, but nothing like when I was young. But touchy enough that I think Barbara had no business bringing Star's body into the conversation. That was unnecessary, and added nothing to the conversation, IMO.

[PugMum]

Rosie told us weeks ago, while she was still on the show that she wouldn't be able to attend.
Whether the event is genuine or not I don't know, but it's not a new excuse in light of Barbara getting her star.

Yes, I remember now her saying that she won't be there. I think it was after she gave her "2 week" notice that she said that. (?)

[Veruka]

Rosie said she would not be at the Emmys after she announced she was not coming back to the show next year, but before any of the pre-fights that led to the big blow out. The only way that one is related to the other is if the blow out was pre-mediated, which I doubt it was.

[Miss_Griss]

That heterosexual sex comment is just nuts. I thought one of the milestone things people some people were loving about the show with Rosie on it was the fact that they could talk about sex, and no one much seemed to care about the sex of the partner they were having it with.

And as for whatever they might seem to want to say that was specifically about having sex with men, I can hardly imagine Rosie making them uncomfortable in doing so. Lots of her closest friends are straight women, and I'm guessing that she listens to their stories all the time.

BW is a homophobic idiot in sheep's (oops, I mean designer) clothing.

[Amy Lee]

Apologies to the sheep.

[Miss_Griss]

Apologies to the sheep.

My baaaa-d.

[prhoshay]

Once again, the show is tiring and boring today. Inanity. Off to watch "I Love Lucy"....at least I get what is promised with that!.

[ArchieComic Fan]

I know I need to lose weight and I don't want or need anyone pointing it out to me, thank you very much. If it's a family member or friend who has recently lost weight and wants to share the tips to their success with me, then I'm all for that. But not on a public forum such as national tv! Obviously Star was aware of her weight because clearly she lost it. I don't see how Barbara can use Star as her example of not being able to tell someone about their weight. We may gain it fast but we sure don't usually lose it fast and however Star did it, the plan may have been in the works for a long time before the results were apparent. Just because she didn't care to share how she did it doesn't mean she hadn't been working on it for a long time. Even if she had surgery, I'm sure a lot of consultations and planning went into that. I think if you can be a role model on how you lost weight then that's great but if you wish to remain quiet about it, that's your business.

And why does it have to be about "heterosexual" sex. Why can't they just talk about sex in general and leave it to each person to fit the discussion into their own personal situation. I was very uncomfortable that one day listening to Barbara talk about watching porn. It's just not something I'd have ever expected to come from her mouth!

[barefootdyke]

as a fat woman, i must interjet here for a moment ... it is absolutely NO BUSINESS of my co-workers how much i weigh, WHY i weigh what i do, nor is it their place to express concern. oh HECK NO!

star saying that she wishes they would have said something better not give others the idea that it's okay. it's NOT okay, even though it happens. one instance that happened to me was about a year ago, i had gone downstairs to the vending machine to get a PACK OF GUM. someone walked by, saw me putting my coins in the machine and said "oh carol, you don't need that stuff".

i responded with "it's really none of your business what i need or don't need, but for your information, i'm purchasing a pack of sugar free gum. see?" and i held it up for her, and walked away.

it doesn't help that my boss (who i adore) is stick thin and her lunch usually consists of a bag of chips or cheetos and a can of coke.

no. do not ever say anything unsolicted to a fat person. i don't care if you are afraid they're going to die of a heart attack in their sleep tonight. DO NOT step over that line.

[lopevian]

do not ever say anything unsolicted to a fat person. i don't care if you are afraid they're going to die of a heart attack in their sleep tonight. DO NOT step over that line.

barefootdyke
That neighbor of yours sounds fond of doling out unsolicited, unwelcome "advise". Pretty dang nervy, I think. Your body is your business.