If Jaque Reid was more of a conservative, i don't think people here would see her the same way with all the praise she's getting.
regarding yesterday; Elisabeth is not the u.s. government, so i don't see the point of people picking fights with her and preplaning a political discussion prior to a commercial break in order to "debate" (if that's what you wanna call it). Since when have they ever preplanned a political segment. Usually someone talks about something and Rosie finds something related / mostly nonrelated and transitions it to the Bush administration or some conspiracy theory.
what was the argument yesterday. Steel doesn't melt man, for someone that isn't scared to speak her mind, she was on the fence wouldn't just come out and say that she really believes that GWB and co. conspired to kill thousands of americans for the purpose of making gazillions of dollars and world domination. Also that everybody should watch Al Jazeera to get the real news and find out how evil America is and that a billion people here are all drinking koolaid served up by the evil devil Karl Rove and his diabolical republican henchmen.
botton line is that Rosie and Elisabeth are both full of sheeeet. Rosie is just fuller, not to mention she is nasty, abrasive, bitter, stopm me i can go on
the main thing Elisabeth suffers from is utopianism. If Elisabeth was liberal politically she would still be a utopian. she probably grew up in a fictional beaver cleaver type family and thinks this is most peoples norm and don't really know anything else like most people know what they are used to and there life experiences, no major problems. The corniest thing about her view wise is when she talks about love, marriage, divorce, defenition of cheating her husband not looking at other women, etc is when i really feel like grabbing her neckbone, its so utopian.
Rosie not seeing her own ignorance and hipocracy. this is the same person who speaks of "this is america" "free speech" "diversity and tolerance" .. can't even accept that someone across the table has a different point of view than hers. Talk about tolerance
I watched like 4 shows the last couple of weeks seeing if Rosie would briing up the couple in Germany that wanted to get married. they love each other; the government won't let em. They are saying the government is discriminating against them, filing suits and whatnot. I don't see why they can't get married the lady is beautiful, the dude is handsome... oh yeah i forgot that they are brother and sister. Boundaries have to be set at some point, everything can't be gray...there has to be definates on something. and why can't these dudes in colorade city with 8 wives who all agree with the lifestyle and love each other. why does the government say they can't marry. discrimination? . Why does nonoe use this as and argument. I would like to see how Rosie "debates" these things.
noone mentions Joy here anymore, who woulda thought she of all people would be the most reasonable during heated discussions, she'll give her opinion (if she knows the topic and bowout if she doesn't) without being offensive to one of the other cacklin hens there.