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    I think Whoopi, who has quit smoking is sounding very short tempered and sort of snarky
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    I think she is sounding more annoyed with the idiots with whom she is sitting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prhoshay View Post
    I think she is sounding more annoyed with the idiots with whom she is sitting.
    That could be, she just always has to be right and she has been there and done that..it gets to be a bit much imho
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    I didn't realize she had quit smoking. That could be a factor. To me, her mood stood out yesterday when they were talking about Tim McGraw swatting a fan who grabbed him. Whoopi was defending Tim saying she'd been in that spot before, which was fine. But Jenny tried to chime in with a different point of view, relating experiences Donnie had on stage, as well as her own experiences. As a Playboy playmate, I'd imagine Jenny has been in some situations where an unruly fan thought he was in his place to grab at her. It kind of annoyed me the way Whoopi was dismissing everyone with an argument of "I know better than you, I'm more experienced". She was making a good point, but could have made it better. Of course, if the reason for her short temper is that she's fed up with sitting with uninformed dolts, that would also explain why she was so quick to dismiss Jenny.

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    Yes, I saw that, She kept saying I have been there , like they hadn't. It is called the view, if she doesn't allow any, the show might tank. Oh wait.
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    Funny, Fanny Mare.

    I read the story about Tim McGraw and I watched the video of him slapping the fan. I guess that because I have been a big concert goer for many years, I feel qualified to speak on it. Plus, I have been up front within arms reach of many performers and have not grabbed one yet. (I did shake the hand of Donny and Marie Osmond. They offered.) HOWEVER, I think that the situation a celebrity puts their fans into creates a very distinct predicament that is unique. It's not like the normal everyday stranger grabs your leg and you lash out in defense. IMO.

    The performer is dependent on his fans to love him, lust over him, and be crazy over him. The performer cultivates this with his words in song, dress, moves, etc. Then you put your body within reach of a worked up, intoxicated fan.....what do you expect? Many celebrities have had their hair yanked, clothes torn, etc. from over zealous fans, but they didn't hit them back. I'm not sure what purpose it served for Tim to do it. He seemed to think about it too. It wasn't automatic. He stopped, turned to another fan, then turned back and whopped the girl. His security team could have easily handled it, without him hitting her, IMO. Plus, his jeans were already very torn.

    This is my take on it. I'm not surprised Whoopi has her opinion. I can see both sides, but I don't side with Tim on this one, because he was the sober person and tempted the woman too much.

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    I see both sides. I think the reality is that when you are a celebrity, you become a product. Many people in an audience don't necessarily view the star on the stage, or no the screen as a person, but rather as an image or an object. The people in the front row of a Tim McGraw concert are not thinking of him as a nice gentleman with a lovely wife who makes nice music - in the same way they would the soloist in a church choir. Rather, they are thinking of him as a hot stud who can belt out some tunes. You see it in the way that people can snark about celebrities, laughing and dissecting difficult moments in their lives. They are not really viewed as people. Now it's understandable that Tim McGraw sees himself as a person, and one who deserves the same respect as the soloist in the church choir with the lovely wife. HE's been that person his entire life. But he's made a lot of money off people seeing him as a product rather than a person. He deserves respect. But people in an audience behave as they would not under normal circumstances because of the image and excitement that is stirred up. For all the celebrities on stage who want to be treated with the respect of a normal human being, you've also got those out there who want to be seen as more of a product so they can make more money. I remember a few years ago seeing Rick Springfield in concert and being dismayed that in his has-been status, he said women were not allowed to grab his butt so many times that it was clear he was truly begging for women to grab him. Yep - the coin definitely has at minimum two sides.

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    When alcohol is involved, you do things you normally wouldn't do and you are just there having fun. It could have been a story of a fan being overly aggressive, improper and grabbing Tim, but Tim, the great guy that he is, just backed up and moved on, as his security escorted the fan away from the stage area, but no....now it's a big story of Tim hitting her. I do think it's a little unrealistic to have intoxicated, avid fans standing at the stage and not expect this kind of thing to happen.

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    I've seen that Tim McGraw vid too and I don't blame him. It looked to me like a reflex on his part. I probably would have done the same thing. She had a grip on him and tore his jeans. Looked like she was reaching higher, if you know what I mean. I find it sort of hilarious that she's suing because of the embarrassment this has caused her when a) she caused the problem and b) no one knew her name until she filed the lawsuit.

    I remember reading an interview with Iggy Azalea about how much clothing - like two pairs of underwear and tights/leggings - for concerts, because if she crowd-surfed, people thought it was a good idea to put their fingers in places they shouldn't be. They'd even brag on Twitter about planning to do it before her concerts. Pretty disgusting.
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    I'm watching a recording of today's show, and just have to vent about the discussion. Sunny Hostin and SE Cupp are the guest hosts and I really like both of them. They started with Sherri complaining about a guy who didn't adore her son as much as she did, which led to a discussion of reprimanding other peoples children. Sonny argued that you can never correct another persons child, that you talk to the parent instead. Later, they discussed possible pictures of the Cowboys owner in compromising positions with two women. In that discussion, Sonny argued that women owe it to each other in a sisterhood to not sleep with married men. She argued it's our responsibility to support other marriages. I see a disconnect with those two. We have no business looking out for other peoples children, but have to care for their marriages? I wish someone would have called her on it.

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