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    Quote Originally Posted by tango7 View Post
    And his marriage vows. He caused a lot of hurt and humiliation to his wife and (then) teen daughter. And he lied, and got caught.

    Yet.........people focus on Monica, how she may have been raised (something people know nothing about), and that SHE should have known better.
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    Each of us is responsible for our own decisions and actions.

    Monica IS responsible. It's not about how SHE was raised; it is about her decision-making. I did suggest that I would not have made such a decision....probably based on what I had been taught across my formative years....and any dirt I may have done, I surely didn't broadcast it.

    Bill IS responsible. He's like many, many men who will do what they can WHEN they can. He made lousy personal decisions and had to answer for them. He got what he deserved when he had to answer to his wife. She is nobody to jerk around, and he was stooopid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imperfect1 View Post
    And yes, she obviously was very smitten, and she probably thought she'd never get caught, and bla bla bla, but the problem was that she CHOSE TO IGNORE the rules and have sex with a married man, in the White House, etc, etc. And she DID get caught, and she's had to pay for that mistake ever since. And many of us have had to pay dearly for mistakes that we made at a young age. I feel a bit sorry for her that she's become so 'notorious' --- but there are consequences for our actions, and she's had to pay the consequences.
    Well said! Your whole post was great. I do feel for Monica too, if she cannot live a normal life 20 years later. That is sad, yes she made a huge mistake in her youth, but murderers don't get 20 years. Here in Canada they don't, the US has stronger and longer jail terms. I wonder why she hasn't attempted to move elsewhere to get a job and start over?
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    Whoopi made that point in their discussion, and I think it is a good one. Most of the sentiment that Monica cannot have a normal life comes from what Monica says. There are not many questions (and probably should not be) about what she is willing to do to have a private life. She's enjoyed benefits of her notorious name as well. She had a purse line that did okay for a bit. Most young women in their early 20s cannot create a purse line and instantly get attention for it. She wasn't normal then, but took advantage of it. Most 40 year old women cannot write a piece for Vanity Fair about their memories of an internship and get it published. She wasn't normal for that, but took advantage of it. In some ways, it seems like she wants to have her cake and eat it too. She wants to be remembered for the notoriety, but wants no consequences for it. I don't think it's reasonable to expect it both ways. She could seeks a truly private life, even change her name if necessary, and have a relatively normal life. But it seems she wants to be remembered ... and yet be forgotten. Unreasonable expectations are rarely met.
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    Totally agree that BOTH people are wrong when there's cheating going on. And I too always wonder why it's usually only the woman who gets blamed. We see it all the time, (all over the world!) and it's really maddening!

    And it's also interesting to me how cheating seems to be more frequent in certain fields than others. Like, for example, in the worlds of certain professional sports, entertainment and politics it's almost unusual if the men DON'T cheat.

    Rather than just focusing on Monica and her behavior, I wish the conversation on The View had been more broad to focus more on these issues.

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    Is cheating more frequent with pro sports, entertainment and politics? Or are those three professions where cheating is more publicized when it happens? Places like The View and TMZ don't seem to care when a dentist or accountant cheats. Further, there's a mark of "accomplishment" for many women if they sleep with someone who is famous that doesn't come from having an affair with someone "ordinary".

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    Donald Trump is one of the more obnoxious people on this planet. I can't believe he actually pays somebody to "do" his hair. He said negative things about Bergdahl's father's appearance; DOES DONALD NOT LOOK IN ONE OF HIS GOLDEN MIRRORS? While Bergdahl's father's appearance gives me the shudders, Donald has NO room to talk. Bergdahl's father, at least, has an excuse for his look.....what is Trump's excuse?
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    His excuse is that sometimes, he cannot think of crap to say to get attention, so he leaves his hair in a way that will also give him attention.

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    Good point.
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    I think it's amazing how people are still not used to the fact that James Gandolfini is dead. I know that the thought still causes me to shake my head. I'm the same way about Luther Vandross.
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