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    Quote Originally Posted by myrosiedog;3237464;
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    Razorbacker, that had to be a good show. And for $10 too.

    The Eagles are coming in Jan. And they will have Joe Walsh with them. I want to go, but tickets are $85, $110, $135 and $185.

    I have never seen the Eagles, but I'm just not sure that I can spend even $170 for 2 tickets in the cheap seats (nose bleed section, bring your own oxygen) and I can damn sure tell you that I am NOT spenging $370 for the good seats.
    The Eagles were years from Joe Walsh. In fact, they were so new that they went on stage before Black Oak & even had Jackson Browne playing with them. Black Oak by the way, brought the crowd to their feet & had them dancing all over the place. They were a truly great live boogie band.

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    Black Oak by the way, brought the crowd to their feet & had them dancing all over the place. They were a truly great live boogie band.
    I saw Black Oak in the early 70's when they opened for Black Sabbath. Ozzy did a no show (imagine that) so Black Oak did a double set. They were the only reason I went anyway as I never cared for Black Sabbath so I was tickled to death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myrosiedog;3237464;
    I'm a packrat.


    Razorbacker, that had to be a good show. And for $10 too.

    The Eagles are coming in Jan. And they will have Joe Walsh with them. I want to go, but tickets are $85, $110, $135 and $185.

    I have never seen the Eagles, but I'm just not sure that I can spend even $170 for 2 tickets in the cheap seats (nose bleed section, bring your own oxygen) and I can damn sure tell you that I am NOT spenging $370 for the good seats.
    I have to admit...if it were me, I think I'd hold my nose, dust off my Visa card and go for the pricey seats. I'm a fan from way back and I caught a bit of their show on a satellite PPV. Awesome. Mind you the ticket prices would probably be even more here in Canada.

    I have ticket stubs for $14-$18 for '80's acts like Bon Jovi, Def Leppard, Scorpions, Ozzy, Iron Maiden, etc. I had to pay my own way, of course, my parents wouldn't dream of giving me money for concerts. Now we're expected to fork out huge dollars if our kids want to go and there's even "parent rooms" at arena shows. *sigh* Am I getting old?

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    Rolling Stone Issue 47

    Dated November 29, 1969. Bob Dylan on the cover.

    The Dylan Interview:
    Interestingly enough it took Jann Wenner 1½ years of convincing to finally get Bob to do the interview, & on the day it took place they were in one of the top floors of a NYC Hotel, while down on the street, lines were forming around the block to pay final tribute to Judy Garland who’s funereal was that day.
    He is in the process of getting the next tour together, but hasn’t set upon a format yet. He says that he may introduce either Marvin Rainwater or Slim Whitman to the audiences.
    He says that the song Lay Lady Lay was specifically written for the movie Midnight Cowboy, but he got it done to late for inclusion.
    He admits to never having seen either Traffic or Cream, but he is without a doubt making a vow to go see Blind Faith because as he says they will probably be gone in a year anyway.
    He’s a fan of Ray Stevens.
    He mentions two songs from the past year as being right at the top of best. Proud Mary by Credence & Small Town Laboring Man by George Jones.
    At the time of this interview, late 1969, Dylan already has 10 albums on the market, beginning work on his 11th.

    The Youngbloods are not happy at RCA & they intend on moving on to another label once their contract expires in the next few weeks. They claim to have never gotten any support until Get Together became a million selling single.

    The Doors have a new movie titled Feast of Friends. Rolling Stone calls it “The most amateurish, embarrassing affair we have seen in a long time.” “Corny, pretentious, silly, sloppy, fantastically boring, & mainly just unending amateur film making.”

    A Steppenwolf concert in Honolulu was overrun by fans because someone put out false notices that the show was free. So gate crashers came out of everywhere, complaining about the high price of tickets…$3.50-$5.50.

    The Doors have shelved a Live album & are doing another studio album for Christmas release.
    Neil Young’s first album has been re-mastered to bring out his voice more & will be re-released.
    Van Morrison is half way through his second album for Warner Brothers
    Delaney & Bonnie are half way through their second & last album for Elektra, titled The Motel Shot
    Spencer Davis is a new signed with Columbia
    Eric Burdon is leaving MGM for Columbia
    Aretha Franklin’s next album is rumored to include a cover of Let It Be…a new song by Paul McCartney
    Frank Zappa is scheduled to release Burnt Weenie Sandwich next January.

    Yoko has had her second miscarriage.

    The Amen Corner (who?), a British band has called it quits saying they have achieved everything they could. Lead singer Andy Fairweather Low is expected to continue as a solo.

    The Nice & keyboard player Keith Emerson who gained a degree of infamy for burning American Flags on stage, have been asked to perform in the UK by none other than Princess Anne.

    Miles Davis is offering a $5,000 reward for info on who shot him & his new Ferrari.

    Here is an interesting bit of MISINFO. Rolling Stone is reporting that the Allman Brothers have just finished their first album. The band features guitar whiz Duane & his organ playing brother MARK. (Good Grief)

    Get Back, the long rumored Beatles album, has been pushed back until at least February of next year. The album has now been re-titled Let It Be & will be accompanied by a film & a one hour TV special.

    The Stones tour has begun & the ticket price controversy is still swirling. Now, however, the Musicians Union in the US, is pushing for the band to be deported, because they have been recording their new album Let It Bleed while in the US & their Visas don’t give them permission to do so. It is also being reported that many of the cities have held back the first 20 rows of seats for upcoming shows & are pricing them at the unheard of price of $12.50. 2 shows, 36,000 seats in LA sold in 8 hours.

    Session keyboard player Nicky Hopkins (Stones, Beatles, The Who, Kinks, Steve Miller, Jeff Beck, Jefferson Airplane), has become a full time member of Quicksilver Messenger Service.

    The whole “Paul is dead “ thing has lead to some interesting outcomes.
    1) Unprecedented sales of their whole library of albums.
    2) A tremendous upsurge in listeners for those Top 40 stations that covered the story.
    3) No one is accusing Capitol of thinking up the scheme, thinking is that it was to esoteric for Columbia, but nonetheless sales have increased tremendously.
    4) It is leading to the biggest Beatles sales month in History.
    5) McCartney fans are ready to believe he is dead regardless of the proof otherwise placed in front of them.
    6) Paul continues to insist that he is alive & he is kind of pissed about the whole thing, some just aren’t believing him.
    7) WTIX in New Orleans has commissioned a song to cover the issue. It is called Brother Paul & its sung by someone “named” Billy Shears. They already have advance orders for 40,000 copies.

    Diana Ross is leaving The Supremes. Her debut as a single is scheduled for March in Framingham Mass.. In other Diana news, she is suing a Casino in Philly for reportedly poisoning her two dogs. She is asking for $27,500 in damages.

    Elvis has been booked into the Astrodome in Houston for a 3 day gig early in 1970. He is reportedly walking away with a cool million. It is being sandwiched between two 4 week stands in Las Vegas at the International for which he is getting another 2 million. His first double LP is called From Memphis to Vegas is set for release next month.

    The Who recently concluded a 6 night stand at the Fillmore East, where they brought 45 separate speakers & played Tommy at ear splitting levels. It was the first time the Fillmore had ever opened during the week & the first time anyone ever played there for more than 2 consecutive days. The band pocketed $75,000 for the week.

    The CMA’S have just been handed out. Johnny Cash was en fuego, to say the least. He won Male Vocalist, Entertainer of the Year, Best Single (Boy Named Sue) , Best Album, (San Quentin), & along with June Carter Best Vocal Group.

    Muddy Waters is in the hospital following a car crash that killed 3 others. He spent over 3 hours on the operating table. The accident was the fault of the driver of the other car.

    Ads for groups or albums this issue:

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    Tim Hardin - The Best Of on Verve

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    There were no individual albums reviewed this issue.

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    Happy Thanksgiving everybody!!!

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    Re: Rock & Roll Historical Perspective

    I liked the James Gang.

    Ajane, I would love to go, but I really can't afford it. We don't use our credit card even for "emergencies" like this. We have been operating on a strictly cash only basis for several years now and I don't have the cash to go. I wish. I'd love to see them, but at those prices, I can't justify it right now this close to Christmas and with the economy tanking. My husband is in an economy driven business and we've been lucky so far, but I keep waiting for the bottom to drop out.

    One day, I hope to see them.
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    I think The James Gang was one of the most underappreciated groups of the era. They did some truly wonderfuly stuff, not to mention bringing Joe Walsh to the world. The band actually reformed & toured together about 2 or 3 years ago.

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    Here is a piece of trivia I came across recently. I was watching the old 007 film From Russia With Love & when the credits ran I noticed a credit for Assistant Director was a guy named Kit Lambert. Well, the name rang a bell & after a bit of Googling, this is the same Kit Lambert that just a few short years later would leave the movies behind & become a rock producer & manager of The Who. Pete Townshend even gives him credit for inspiring him to step up his game in the song writing area & that lead him to begin writing Tommy.

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    Rolling Stone Issue 48

    Dated December 13, 1969. Miles Davis on the cover.

    Woodstock, the movie, has been pushed back to Easter 1970 at the earliest.

    Howlin Wolf, the 54 year old Blues master, is in the hospital following a heart attack.

    Jeff Beck was planning to fly to NYC to begin the search for the newest edition of his group. However, he crashed his sports car & is suffering from a broken nose, facial cuts, & a broken pelvis. Plans are delayed.

    CSN&Y have completed their second album & it is now being remixed. Due for release in a mere few weeks. Meanwhile, Neil is working on his third album & planning to tour with Crazy Horse.

    John Sebastian is signing with Warner Brothers.
    Randy Newman has completed his new album for RCA.
    Chuck Berry is back with Chess.
    The Beach Boys have 14 new songs complete for their next album.
    Procol Harum is about done. Their keyboard player & bass player have both split the band.
    Conway Twitty has gone into the restaurant business in Oklahoma City.
    Gene Vincent has a comeback project all ready to go for Elektra called I’m Back & I’m Proud.

    Janis Joplin was arrested in Tampa November 15th for using “vulgar & indecent language” during a performance. She was released on a $504 bond & scheduled to be in court Nov. 20th.

    The Kinks have been allowed back into the States for the first time in 4 years, due to visa issues. A lot of their issues stem from the last tour when Ray & Dave got into a fight one night while on stage & The American Federation of Musicians barred them from further appearances until they apologized.

    Jim Morrison is still in trouble. He pleaded not guilty to the lewd & indecent charges in Miami, was released on a $5000 bond & scheduled for court on April 27th. Meanwhile he was arrested by the FBI in Phoenix for disrupting a intercontinental flight & public drunkeness, this time he was released on a $2,500 bond & scheduled to be arraigned on Nov. 24th.

    Joni Mitchell has announced her retirement from public appearances. She says it takes to much time away from song writing & painting. This includes cancelling upcoming dates at Constitution Hall in Washington DC & Carnegie Hall in NYC.

    There is a group of imposters, touring, performing & billing themselves as The Zombies & the original members, especially drummer Alan White aren’t happy about it at all. The new guys have even asked Columbia Records for money to promote themselves. These Zombies are Southern boys & the originals were Brits who split two years ago.

    There is a lengthy interview with guitarist from The Band, Robbie Robertson.
    Unfounded rumors are everywhere, he says that he has heard Creedence is breaking up…we all know now that it didn’t happen for a few more years.
    He says that The Band doesn’t have a leader of sorts, they just all play a part in the success & without one they wouldn’t have the whole.
    They are now writing material for the third album.
    He tells about the World Tour as Dylan’s backing band, when the whole world booed as Dylan went electric.
    Interestingly he tells about the trend in music at the time where artists are dissing their parents & blaming them for everything that is wrong. He says even if it is the truth, who cares no one wants to hear it. Then he purposely points at Janis Ian & Jim Morrison & calls them “a drag.”
    He disses Procul Harum as sounding like Percy Sledge & would like to hear them sing something else besides Whiter Shades of Pale, over & over & over.
    Asked about his Woodstock experience he says that they played between Ten Years After & Johnny Winter & came across as a bunch of alter boys playing Muzak. The event wasn’t about the music anyway, it was about the people.

    Ads for groups or albums this issue:

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    The Guess Who - Wheatfield Soul on RCA

    Pink Floyd - Ummagumma on Harvest Records

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    Blodwyn Pig - A&M Records

    Steve Miller Band - Your Saving Grace on Capitol

    Rolling Stones - Let it Bleed on London Records

    Johnny Winter - Second Winter on Columbia

    The Kinks - Arthur on Reprise

    Album Reviews:

    Dan Hicks & His Hot Licks - Original Recordings
    The album is interesting in it’s potential but not always exciting in it’s execution. Criticisms about the production rightly reside with Bob Johnston, much of the other liabilities can be chalked up to the fact that this is a first effort. Hicks will certainly distinguish himself on future albums….Geoffrey Link

    Led Zepplin II
    You’ve got to admit that the Zeppelin have their distinctive & enchanting formula down stone cold. Like you get the impression they could do it in their sleep. I listened to the album on mescaline, some old Romilar, Novocain, & ground up fusion & it was just as mind blowing as before. I must admit I haven’t listened to it straight yet, I don’t think a group this heavy is best enjoyed that way…John Mendelsohn

    Fleetwood Mac - Then Play On
    Nowadays Fleetwood Mac is stepping out on it’s own. Tired of being another British blues band, the band has said goodbye to Elmore James & moved into the pop/rock field. On this album, they fall flat on their faces. To be sure, there are interesting bits & pieces scattered throughout the album, but it’s the non descript ramblings which dominate the set….John Morthland

    Jethro Tull - Stand Up
    With the removal of Rick Abrahams to form Blodwyn Pig, the musical tug of war which could be heard on the first album has disappeared. Ian Anderson simply dominates the proceedings. The album is not really funky, rather, it is a meticulously crafted work which deserves careful listening. At a time when many of the established stars are faltering, it is a particular pleasure to hear an important new voice….Ben Gershon

    Other albums reviewed:

    The Box Tops - Dimensions, Nonstop & Super Hits are all reviewed.

    Area Code 615- This was a super group of Nashville studio musicians consisting of Wayne Moss, Charley McCoy, Kenny Buttrey, Weldon Myrick, Bobby Thompson, David Briggs & Norbert Putnam.

    Charley Rich Life’s Little Ups & Downs

    Sha Na Na - Rock & Roll is Here to Stay

    Bonzo Dog Band - Tadpoles

    The Flaming Groovies - Super Snazz

    The Butterfield Blues Band - Keep on Moving

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    Led Zepplin II
    You’ve got to admit that the Zeppelin have their distinctive & enchanting formula down stone cold. Like you get the impression they could do it in their sleep. I listened to the album on mescaline, some old Romilar, Novocain, & ground up fusion & it was just as mind blowing as before. I must admit I haven’t listened to it straight yet, I don’t think a group this heavy is best enjoyed that way…John Mendelsohn
    LMAO...I can't imagine the reaction to a RS writer these days who published a laundry list of the dope he took while listening to a new release.
    I've listened to this album many, many, many times (straight ). There was a period in the 10th grade or so when I spun it every single day. It was the record that convinced my parents to get me headphones.
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    I had to pull out my old vinyl copy of Then Play On, because I just didn't remember the album being as bad as the reviewer painted it out to be. And on listening to it agian, I agree there are some issues with side two, but side one is pretty strong from beginning to end. And I don't see that they have gotten to far away from their blues roots at this point. The sound was evolving, but wasn't quite to the Pop level this guy said. And Oh Well, is spectacular.

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