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    I don't think it deserved either, esp. for Best Director. I think Avatar only won because either Hollywood Foreign Press really were bought out(like they joked about a few times during the ceremony), or the HFP is desperate not to become like the Oscars and awarded Avatar to please the younger movie-going public.

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    Well, I loved Avatar and I'm thrilled it got best picture and best director. I've read a lot about how the script was developed years ago and they had to develop the technology to film it the way he wanted. They also developed a whole ecology, with Latin plant names, language with specific spoken accent, and many other aspects of the culture. That is a pretty intense investment on the part of the director. I've talked to many, many people who are crazy about this film and everyone has seen it multiple times. I think the awards are well deserved and hope they continue to do well during the awards season.
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    Well, as the Pixar Creative Team is always saying, Story is King. If the story/plot is this unoriginal especially after that many years of development, it really brings the whole film down. And because of that, it doesn't deserve Best Picture, especially over ones like The Hurt Locker or Inglourious Basterds which are much more original and had much less time to develop the storyline/plot, yet they are much more engaging and better acted.

    I still like Avatar a lot, and think it definitely deserves all the technical awards, but other than that, there are much more deserving films for the other awards (esp. Director).

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    Some stories bear repeating. I'm happy to agree to disagree with you on this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ionan;3799730;
    I don't think it deserved either, esp. for Best Director. I think Avatar only won because either Hollywood Foreign Press really were bought out(like they joked about a few times during the ceremony), or the HFP is desperate not to become like the Oscars and awarded Avatar to please the younger movie-going public.
    Actually, I think the HFP gave the award to Avatar because they (like most in Hollywood) are more liberal and appreciate the message behind the movie. I don't believe Avatar's win had anything to do with pleasing the younger audiences. If it did, then I think they would've nominated (and voted for) New Moon or Twilight-LOL!!

    I loved the movie and was thrilled to hear this morning that it won best picture and Cameron won best director. I'm actually looking forward to seeing it 1 more time and have been debating with DH about whether we should change our minds and take the kids...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutmutter;3799983;
    Some stories bear repeating. I'm happy to agree to disagree with you on this one.
    Well of course. However, Avatar(Cameron) went about it in a totally unoriginal way. Most movies repeat many themes, however, what makes them great is how original their execution of the theme is.

    I feel Avatar's win is just a way to satisfy the general movie audience after The Dark Knight was snubbed last year from at least a nomination. My problem with this is that The Dark Knight had really high praises from both critics and the general audience about all the aspects of the movie: Acting, plot, technical details. Whereas, Avatar only has high praises for the technical details, and just good reviews about everything else with a few clusters of critics and audience praising the rest.

    I don't believe Avatar's win had anything to do with pleasing the younger audiences. If it did, then I think they would've nominated (and voted for) New Moon or Twilight-LOL!!
    The only thing with this is that those were pretty horrible movies in terms of plot, acting, etc. Whereas Avatar is actually a really good movie, so there IS some justification for it winning.
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    I enjoyed Avatar. I was happy it won the Golden Globe last night... (but I have not seen The Hurt Locker or Inglourious Basterds). I do wish Cameron had gotten a hair cut before the awards though. He looked as if he has aged 20 years since Titanic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonbonlover;3800108;
    I enjoyed Avatar. I was happy it won the Golden Globe last night... (but I have not seen The Hurt Locker or Inglourious Basterds). I do wish Cameron had gotten a hair cut before the awards though. He looked as if he has aged 20 years since Titanic.
    I had to look them both up.
    Seems that Titanic came out in '97 - 13 years ago.
    And Mr. Cameron is just 55.
    I thought he was in his late 60's at least. He has not aged well at all, has he?
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    Quote Originally Posted by norealityhere;3800126;
    I had to look them both up.
    Seems that Titanic came out in '97 - 13 years ago.
    And Mr. Cameron is just 55.
    I thought he was in his late 60's at least. He has not aged well at all, has he?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bearcata;3800537;
    It's all the divorces.
    I thought he only had the divorce from Linda Hamilton?

    I think, in Mr. Cameron's case, it might be his pomposity and arrogance that has aged him.
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