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Old 04-24-2007, 02:13 PM   #71
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Plus, there's the fact that Kim and her people have not bothered to deny releasing it, when they've had a thousand opportunities to do so.
Actually, Kim and her people have denied releasing the phone message.

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But Basinger’s spokeswoman, Annett Wolf, issued a statement on Monday denying the actress released the voice mail and said the recording was “not sealed under a court order.”
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Old 04-24-2007, 02:28 PM   #72
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I completely hear everything that everyone else is saying. I do not condone releasing this voicemail AT ALL! I don't know who did it, and I wouldn't defend anyone for releasing it. However, I still think that the first issue here is that the man did say these things to his daughter. I sincerely hope that his apology to his daughter was much more genuine than the one that he expressed on his website. I still believe that his public apology was more of a vent of his own about the fact that the voicemail was released; not that he was truly sorry for what he said to his daughter.

I don't know what Alec Baldwin said directly to his daughter after he left that message. I just hope he gave her a sincere apology, since I do not believe he gave one in public.

It was not right for the voicemail to be leaked; and quite frankly, none of us should know about it, let alone be talking about it. The whole situation is just very sad.
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Old 04-24-2007, 02:29 PM   #73
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Actually, Kim and her people have denied releasing the phone message.

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But Basinger’s spokeswoman, Annett Wolf, issued a statement on Monday denying the actress released the voice mail and said the recording was “not sealed under a court order.”
That's confusing as all hell. Why deny releasing it in one breath and then point out that it wasn't sealed in the next? It's almost like saying... "she didn't release it, but if she did..."

Also it leads you to wonder if specifically using the language "Kim Basinger did not release the voicemail." (and that's an exact quote) isn't part of a verbal and logic dodge to disguise the fact that someone else, an attorney or agent or friend, released the tape with her consent. The statement would technically be true and could be defended.

Once again I find myself hoping a court at some point appoints an independent guardian for this kid and gets her the heck away from all of them.
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Old 04-24-2007, 02:58 PM   #74
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Taking a child away from her parents is nevvvver the answer. Only in extreme cases, and this (as far as we all know) isn't an extreme case.
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Many of the accusations against Kim allegedly releasing the voice mail message stated that it was an egregious act because it was a confidential court evidence. I'd imagine that that's one reason that they worded it that way.

With her male attorney's comment last Thursday or Friday... I wouldn't doubt that he had released it. But it still should eliminate some of the extra Kim bashing.
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Kim has earned her share of bashing, but as 2boysmom points out, this is about Baldwin's inexcusable 'assault' on his daughter.
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That was my point, Uncle David. I've said further up thread that Kim has done her fair share of heinous things, but we can/should take the "what kind of mother releases this type of voice mail to the press?" off of the list.
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…off of the list.
And what a list it is.

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Kim was behind the daughter's actions that led to Alec losing his temper. It is entirely possible she is manipulating her daughter into actions that are very hurtful to her father… SO WHAT??

I don’t find Baldwin’s actions any more acceptable than I would a mother who was ‘driven’ to slap her child on the face with an open hand.

There is no way this man deserves custody of his child.
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That was my point, Uncle David. I've said further up thread that Kim has done her fair share of heinous things, but we can/should take the "what kind of mother releases this type of voice mail to the press?" off of the list.

Would he have released it without her permission? I ask because my sister has been enduring a divorce and its aftermath for over 15 years now and I know her attorney does nothing related to it without my sister's knowledge.
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I disagree Broadway and Uncle David that whether or not Kim played a part in releasing the tape is not relevant to this story. The reason that Alec Baldwin's behavior is relevant is that it indicates how he is as a father. To yell at a child like that indicates he's got little regard for her well-being over his own. If Kim did release the tape, then as I see it, that provides just as much negative commentary about her regard for her daughter's well-being over her own.
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