The Trials and Tribulations of Anna Nicole Smith

[BlondieGirl]

Originally Posted by Broadway

I'll leave it to the medical examiner to determine that. And, according to him, she hadn't been dead for over two hours.

I have been reading your posts and I feel, Broadway, you keep on hitting the nail on the head.

[Google]

 

[Muduh]

My point is that I would like to know how the medical examiner can pinpoint the time of death to less than two hours when other experts opinions vary.

I'm surprised that anyone would find anything laughable about this tragedy. A child's welfare could very well be in jeopardy. If there's any humor in that, it escapes me totally.

[Lois Lane]

Originally Posted by BlondieGirl

Has anybody read the Nanny's affidavit claiming that ANS only wanted her daughter to be fed 2.5 ounces of formula because she wanted her baby to look "sexy"

Is this for real? I actually hope that the nanny is delusional and is making this up. I would hate to think that any mother actually thought this way about feeding a baby...

Not that she's as famous as or as talented as Elvis, but her death reminds me of his in some ways. Well intentioned people gave him everything he wanted--including drugs. He ultimately was responsible for taking them, which led to his death. But his handlers certainly didn't help him NOT take them, because they were scared to say no to him. It seems that Anna had her share of similar psychophants in her life. I don't know if it was all an act or not, but she ALWAYS seemed wasted in interviews, appearances, on her show etc. ... It went beyond the "dumb blonde" image that people like Jessica Simpson cultivate. She seemed completely stoned, for lack of a better word.

I have no idea what's in TrimSpa but I remember one of my friends got really sick from taking diet pills that had phenphen in it. It wouldn't surprise me at all to learn that her yo yo dieting and these pills had a part in her death.

When I hear about her life, I keep flashing back to what Dr. Drew Pinsky used to always say on "Loveline." Normal, well adjusted women don't become strippers. Most of them (certainly not ALL of them) had troubled upbringings and often were sexually abused in their youth. Stripping is a way of acting out--taking control of their bodies--something they couldn't in their childhood. I'm not saying this is what happened to Anna Nicole Smith, but I don't doubt that something weird went on in her family.

[Krom]

Originally Posted by Broadway

I'll leave it to the medical examiner to determine that. And, according to him, she hadn't been dead for over two hours.

And I find it amazingly laughable that you guys have this man labeled as a murderer, drug pusher, and child abuser, and somehow ANS and her son were unwitting victims, all without proof. And all for money that ANS does not have. And Virgie Arthur is a poor, tragic victim of her daughter's lying claims of abuse.

No. Virgie Arthur seems to be pretty scummy too. As was Anna, in her own way--a woman who face it, slept her way into almost every advantage she had.

This is just a situation without any good people in it. An object lesson in how greed destroys pretty much everyone, from Anna Nichole, to Howard K. Stern to Virgie Arthur to the staff of Entertainment Tonight. The only innocent person in any of this is a few months old.

As to what is, or isn't provable about HKS' role in the two deaths, at the very least it has to be admitted that he's lived a bizarre life of following and occasionally herding around this woman, supposedly for "no pay" as we've been told, is part of the cadre of supporters who's spent years denying she had any kind of drug problem, and yet was in the immediate vicinity of two drug related deaths in that family, and who has at the end of it wound up the legal guardian and parent presumptive of a little girl who will have at least a decent amount of money even if she doesn't get any of the J. Marshall cash. Also undeniable is that the hijinks with Anna, Howard and baby moving to the Bahamas was very very strange, both in the timing, and the eventual effects in had in muddying the waters of any necessary legal proceedings or investigations.

What does it all mean? Well, at the very least even if it doesn't prove anything about HKS feelings or actions towards Anna, it does draw a very strange picture.

Again, I don't personally think there's anything to be found by a medical examiner. Anna took those drugs herself, I think, and all of the body temperature calculations in the world probably won't change that. But the mere fact that Howard wasn't there doesn't absolve him of any possible responsibility. At a minimum, he clearly didn't take any steps to get the so-called "love of his life" the psychiatric help and/or drug treatment she clearly needed. At the worst? Well, like I said in another post, you can measure out drugs and give them to a addict, hand them to them, and leave the room without leaving a trace of definitive forensics evidence.

[Muduh]

I agree with almost everything you said, Krom. It really is a terrible situation and there are no innocent participants except the most important one of all.

I also agree with much of Lois Lane's post. There are a lot of similarities to Elvis here. Everyone is afraid to stand up to the keeper of the purse strings and continue to contribute to their addictions, and death. While they won't, in all likelihood, be found guilty of any crime, that doesn't mean they didn't commit one.

[BlondieGirl]

Originally Posted by Lois Lane

Is this for real? I actually hope that the nanny is delusional and is making this up. I would hate to think that any mother actually thought this way about feeding a baby...

Lois Lane! I dont know if it is for real but I am certainly hoping it isnt either.

My 10 month old son isnt a big eater and it worries me to no end. I dont know how anyone could "restrict" a newborn's diet.

[BlondieGirl]

Originally Posted by Krom

No. Virgie Arthur seems to be pretty scummy too. As was Anna, in her own way--a woman who face it, slept her way into almost every advantage she had.

This is just a situation without any good people in it. An object lesson in how greed destroys pretty much everyone, from Anna Nichole, to Howard K. Stern to Virgie Arthur to the staff of Entertainment Tonight. The only innocent person in any of this is a few months old.

Well put Krom!

Has anyone seen Virgie shed ONE tear over Anna's death? She always looks so cold and stone faced...even when talking about ANS's untimely demise.

[rt1ky]

I glad that Dannielynn is too young to see and understand what's going on.

[Muduh]

Originally Posted by BlondieGirl

Well put Krom!

Has anyone seen Virgie shed ONE tear over Anna's death? She always looks so cold and stone faced...even when talking about ANS's untimely demise.

I don't see the stoned faced thing but neither do I see tears. Maybe she's keeping her emotoins under control.

Besides, I think that Stern has the market on tears. He was sitting and blathering, clutching that poor baby who looked so bewildered I wanted to just snatch her away from him and cuddle her and give the poor little thing a smile. The authorities don't seem to care about that baby either and that is just unacceptable to me. She needs to be far, far away from that circus.

[BlondieGirl]

Hi Muhduh,

If my child died, I wouldnt be able to keep it under control.

That baby is such a cutie pie.