The Trials and Tribulations of Anna Nicole Smith - Page 103

phoenix1964 · 03-21-2007, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Muduh

I don't believe that I've called anyone a free loading dirtbag. That must have been your idea, not mine.

We really don't want to get into unstable home environment, do we? If we do, we will have to bring Daniel's upbringing into it and I doubt that anyone wants to go there. I never knew any of them personally, as some here seem to, but I can't see Vergie or anyone else going on a husband hunt every day or night. Vergie has been married five times over the period of what, forty years? I wouldn't think anyone would need to have a revolving door for that. Many young people have already been married two or three tmes, so give them time and they may catch up with her.

I resent the last question. Just because I'm not a HKS lover does not make me Vergie. Most everyone here knows exactly who I am, where I live, how old I am and anything else about me. Oh, I'm on my second husband, too.

Yes, let's get into the unstable home environment. I don't see how you can't with these paticular people. And who's the daddy and who to call daddy is a valid point in having an unstable home environment. For the five guys Virgie got to the alter. How many dodge the bullet. So the ratio of men in her life and her children lives could have been quite high.

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MizDaisy · 03-21-2007, 07:29 PM

I watched part of an interview done by Catherine Crier with Krista Barth today, and while I understand what both of them were doing -- Catherine was pushing Krista to explain Howard's role as an enabler to Anna's use of prescription drugs, and Krista was doing her best defense lawyer schtick -- there was something about the whole exchange that bothered me.

Catherine is a seasoned trial attorney (I think she was also a prosecutor, but not sure) and she knows what lawyers do and why they do it. So she insisted on Krista giving a direct answer to her direct questions. Which is fine ... except she didn't do that with John O'Quinn yesterday. Her style was noticably different with each of them. O'Quinn consistently made not so subtle statements to imply -- not outright accuse, because he's too good a lawyer to do that -- that Howard was responsible for Anna's death, but Catherine never called him on what he was doing. She did ask O'Quinn what evidence he had for his statements, and he answered without giving any concrete facts, and she let it go at that, instead of holding him accountable for his statements as she did with Krista.

I have to wonder if the double standard in the way she's treating the attorneys in this case has to do with Catherine's bias against HKS. She's certainly entitled to her opinion about him, but if O'Quinn's playing a shell game with his answers, he deserves the same treatment as given to a lawyer for the other side who does the same thing. To be fair, I've also seen Nancy Grace do this. She'll be rude and cut off a lawyer for someone she obviously doesn't like, and then let an attorney for the opposing side say what they want.

I guess these shows aren't required to be "fair and balanced" in the way they discuss these cases, but it just seems unprofessional to me. I'd rather the hosts leave out any favoritism and do hard-hitting interviews with all the attorneys. I don't give a damn what the host's personal bias may be, I can reach my own conclusions based on what I'm seeing and hearing.

prhoshay · 03-22-2007, 01:00 PM

Apparently, Catherine Crier, at age 29, was the youngest elected state judge in Texas. She stayed in that position for 5 years, before leaving to work at 20/20, and then Fox News. Interesting.

divotsmom · 03-22-2007, 06:59 PM

Dr. Perper to make COD MOD on Monday morning 10:30am Eastern Time

http://http://www.tmz.com/2007/03/22/cause-of-death-in-anna-nicole-case-imminent/

Also ANS Diaries sold on e bay for $512,000. Guess HKS can afford to pay for stuff now.

Anna's Diaries Sell for More Than Half a Mil - TMZ.com

MizDaisy · 03-22-2007, 08:19 PM

Proshay, thanks for that background info on Catherine. Since she was a judge, you'd think she'd be especially interested in treating all the attornies on her show the same way.

Re Anna's diaries: this is from the item description on the E-Bay link provided in the TMZ article:

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Consignors in this special Anna Nicole Auction include "The Bodyguard" William Castleberry, who has worked security for many celebrities throughout the years, plus D'eva and Eric Redding who actually discovered Anna Nicole, when she was an unknown dancer in Houston, Texas, and managed her early career for a period of two years.

So it wasn't Howard who gave Universal Rarities those diaries to auction, it was people who had known Anna even before she met Howard who will be getting the $500K (less auctioner's commission). After this auction, anybody who ever knew her for a few minutes and has something that belonged to her will be frantically searching for it to put it on E-Bay!!

These diaries are the same ones I posted about a few pages ago, when the rep from Universal Rarities was talking about them on Fox News and mentioned one of the entries that describes Anna getting drunk with her mom. According to that TMZ article, a wealthy German businessman who's a long-time ANS fan bought the diaries, but I wonder if he'll sell any of the entries that the tabloids would love to publish. I hope not. It would be nice if one person in this mess was only hoping to have something of hers rather than trying to exploit her in some way.

Broadway · 03-22-2007, 08:33 PM

There have already been several of her diary entries that have made it on the news. For some reason they're dissecting her comment that she didn't like sex as if it's a recent comment and they're (the news) trying to analyze what that could possibly mean ... conveniently leaving out the fact that they're 15 years old.

MizDaisy · 03-22-2007, 08:44 PM

Yep, there's already some stuff from the diaries "out there," as indicated by this information, also from the item description on E-Bay.

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** Please note: The winner of this lot will own exclusive rights to all images and information within the diary EXCEPT for the first and last handwritten pages. Those two pages have already been granted semi-exclusive status with Phoenix Books of Los Angeles, who purchased the semi-exclusive rights to those two pages for their upcoming book "Train Wreck - The Anna Nicole Smith Story". These semi-exclusive rights to the above mentioned two pages expires on April 21st , 2007 when the book is scheduled for release. The winning bidder will obtain all exclusive rights for republication of those two pages AFTER April 21st, 2007.

The part about the winning bidder having the rights for publication of the whole thing after April 21 is what made me wonder if the buyer would consider selling anything that hadn't already been revealed.

MizDaisy · 03-22-2007, 09:54 PM

Perper is finally ready to disclose the cause of death:

Cause of Death In Anna Nicole Case Imminent - TMZ.com

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Dr. Joshua Perper has just announced he will hold a news conference on Monday at 10:30 AM to reveal what killed Anna Nicole Smith.

TMZ has just spoken with Gary Bitner, the spokesperson for the Seminole Police Department. Bitner said the findings at Monday's news conference "are going to be a significant announcement."

Bitner also told TMZ that the Seminole Police, the State Attorney and the Medical Examiner have been closely working together, and "it continues to be a non-criminal, unexplained death investigation."

Bitner added Perper's findings "are going to provide some resolution" in the death of Anna Nicole.

Given the statements by the spokesperson for the Seminole police, it doesn't seem there will be anything shocking in Perper's report.

prhoshay · 03-23-2007, 05:28 PM

On Catherine Crier today:

Leaked information!

ANS died of a raging infection in her buttock from a dirty needle. Abscess. Lethal drug overdose of chloral hydrate (sleeping medication), class 4 controlled substance. No one knows who gave her the injection. Date rape drug. Vets use it on animals. Don't know how she got the drug. "Personal assistant" states he witnessed her getting injections from Stern in the past, but doesn't know if he gave her this. Septicemia. She should have been in the hospital for supportive care, possible respiratory support, IV antibiotics, etc. Don't know why she would have this drug. Drug was given in the Bahamas, and infection was setting up while she was coming to Florida, thus the 105 degree temperature. Had scarring on buttock that indicated other injections have been given. Won't know until Monday if Dr. Perper is going to rule suicide, accidental overdose, or just what.

Howard K. still has not filed an appeal to the paternity test, as of today. Doesn't look like inquest into Daniel's death will start until Tuesday, due to Anna drama on Monday.

Birkhead has trademarked the phrase, "Goodnight, my sweet Anna, baby". Good Grief!

Justafan1 · 03-23-2007, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MizDaisy

So it wasn't Howard who gave Universal Rarities those diaries to auction, it was people who had known Anna even before she met Howard who will be getting the $500K (less auctioner's commission). After this auction, anybody who ever knew her for a few minutes and has something that belonged to her will be frantically searching for it to put it on E-Bay!!
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And there is an outrage all over the Internet about Stern "who makes money off Anna's body" .

He is no angel but it just proves that people will blame and accuse him of anything without even bother checking the facts.

03-22-2007, 01:00 PM	#1023
prhoshay Signed, Sealed, Delivered Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Right Here, Right Now Posts: 14,345	Apparently, Catherine Crier, at age 29, was the youngest elected state judge in Texas. She stayed in that position for 5 years, before leaving to work at 20/20, and then Fox News. Interesting. __________________ "...each affects the other, and the other affects the next, and the world is full of stories, but the stories are all one." - Mitch Albom, one helluva writer You are the only person responsible for your happiness.

03-22-2007, 08:33 PM	#1026
Broadway One in every crowd.. Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 18,763	There have already been several of her diary entries that have made it on the news. For some reason they're dissecting her comment that she didn't like sex as if it's a recent comment and they're (the news) trying to analyze what that could possibly mean ... conveniently leaving out the fact that they're 15 years old. __________________ Never let the things you want make you forget about the things you have.

03-23-2007, 05:28 PM	#1029
prhoshay Signed, Sealed, Delivered Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Right Here, Right Now Posts: 14,345	On Catherine Crier today: Leaked information! ANS died of a raging infection in her buttock from a dirty needle. Abscess. Lethal drug overdose of chloral hydrate (sleeping medication), class 4 controlled substance. No one knows who gave her the injection. Date rape drug. Vets use it on animals. Don't know how she got the drug. "Personal assistant" states he witnessed her getting injections from Stern in the past, but doesn't know if he gave her this. Septicemia. She should have been in the hospital for supportive care, possible respiratory support, IV antibiotics, etc. Don't know why she would have this drug. Drug was given in the Bahamas, and infection was setting up while she was coming to Florida, thus the 105 degree temperature. Had scarring on buttock that indicated other injections have been given. Won't know until Monday if Dr. Perper is going to rule suicide, accidental overdose, or just what. Howard K. still has not filed an appeal to the paternity test, as of today. Doesn't look like inquest into Daniel's death will start until Tuesday, due to Anna drama on Monday. Birkhead has trademarked the phrase, "Goodnight, my sweet Anna, baby". Good Grief! __________________ "...each affects the other, and the other affects the next, and the world is full of stories, but the stories are all one." - Mitch Albom, one helluva writer You are the only person responsible for your happiness.

03-21-2007, 07:29 PM	#1022
MizDaisy FORT Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 720	I watched part of an interview done by Catherine Crier with Krista Barth today, and while I understand what both of them were doing -- Catherine was pushing Krista to explain Howard's role as an enabler to Anna's use of prescription drugs, and Krista was doing her best defense lawyer schtick -- there was something about the whole exchange that bothered me. Catherine is a seasoned trial attorney (I think she was also a prosecutor, but not sure) and she knows what lawyers do and why they do it. So she insisted on Krista giving a direct answer to her direct questions. Which is fine ... except she didn't do that with John O'Quinn yesterday. Her style was noticably different with each of them. O'Quinn consistently made not so subtle statements to imply -- not outright accuse, because he's too good a lawyer to do that -- that Howard was responsible for Anna's death, but Catherine never called him on what he was doing. She did ask O'Quinn what evidence he had for his statements, and he answered without giving any concrete facts, and she let it go at that, instead of holding him accountable for his statements as she did with Krista. I have to wonder if the double standard in the way she's treating the attorneys in this case has to do with Catherine's bias against HKS. She's certainly entitled to her opinion about him, but if O'Quinn's playing a shell game with his answers, he deserves the same treatment as given to a lawyer for the other side who does the same thing. To be fair, I've also seen Nancy Grace do this. She'll be rude and cut off a lawyer for someone she obviously doesn't like, and then let an attorney for the opposing side say what they want. I guess these shows aren't required to be "fair and balanced" in the way they discuss these cases, but it just seems unprofessional to me. I'd rather the hosts leave out any favoritism and do hard-hitting interviews with all the attorneys. I don't give a damn what the host's personal bias may be, I can reach my own conclusions based on what I'm seeing and hearing.

03-22-2007, 06:59 PM	#1024
divotsmom FORT Fan Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Glenwood Springs CO Posts: 181	Dr. Perper to make COD MOD on Monday morning 10:30am Eastern Time http://http://www.tmz.com/2007/03/22/cause-of-death-in-anna-nicole-case-imminent/ Also ANS Diaries sold on e bay for $512,000. Guess HKS can afford to pay for stuff now. Anna's Diaries Sell for More Than Half a Mil - TMZ.com