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    Quote Originally Posted by rt1ky
    RE: Dear Demi: most high schoolers read the book at some point in time for class.
    I wonder if she's managing to expose her children to the concept of reading.

    Wasn't the original Poseidon Adventure film based on a book?
    It was indeed. I had read the book before I saw the first film which, like others here, I loved and watched many times. The cast was superbly talented -- Gene Hackman, Red Buttons, Stella Stevens, Ernest Borgnine, Shelley Winters, Jack Albertson, Arthur O'Connell. At least 5 of them are Oscar winners.

    For the most part, I emphatically dislike remakes of classic films. They are almost always a disappointment. I will probably rent this one and hope to be pleasantly surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Florimel
    It was indeed. I had read the book before I saw the first film which, like others here, I loved and watched many times. The cast was superbly talented -- Gene Hackman, Red Buttons, Stella Stevens, Ernest Borgnine, Shelley Winters, Jack Albertson, Arthur O'Connell. At least 5 of them are Oscar winners.

    For the most part, I emphatically dislike remakes of classic films. They are almost always a disappointment. I will probably rent this one and hope to be pleasantly surprised.
    The original was definitely a classic, Florimel! It was on AMC yesterday and I ended up watching about the last hour or so. I just never get tired of watching it. This remake will have to work hard to measure up.

    I'm generally not a fan of remakes and book/tv/comic book adaptations. Of course, there are always exceptions. I just don't think that every cheesy TV show or book by Nicholas Sparks needs to be made into a movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Critical
    Exaaaactly! It's like when they did the movie The Scarlet Letter and then changed the ending. As I remember, Demi Moore said something asinine like "Well, not that many people read the book."

    If you say you're doing a remake of a film and yet you keep none of the characters, then what's the point? Just call it something else and tell us that it was "inspired" by the older film.

    Obviously, the special effects are much more advanced now. That doesn't necessarily mean that the movie will be better. Special effects can't replace acting and a good script and the heart of the original. If it gets good reviews, I still may see it - I like the actors who have been cast thus far.
    This could have been a post by my old self, I agree totally. The same goes for so many singers (if you can call them that) who have careers now. WIll they still be remembered 50 years from now? NO The same for many actors/actresses, without the effects they are not that good and will not be remembered... Remaking classics can be done if done right, take A Christmas Carol for instance- The 1938, 1951 versions are excellent but the newer "remakes" are not.

    Let's see someone even try to remake the Young Lions with Marlon Brando, Montgomery Clift and Dean Martin- I say it cannot be done right.
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    I'm really looking forward to this. It's the first I've heard of it. I remember seeing the original (or at least reruns on tv). Didn't it come out around the same time a bunch of other disaster movies came out? (The Towering Inferno, Earthquake, etc.)

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    I think The Poseidon Adventure preceeded the disaster flicks you mention, Carla, if only by a year. I believe it started the trend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabriel
    Let's see someone even try to remake the Young Lions with Marlon Brando, Montgomery Clift and Dean Martin- I say it cannot be done right.
    Laughing sneeringly at the very idea. Who's got the stature to fill their shoes?

    "Stars" overall these days don't have the background or longevity to live up to the term; they are a commodity with a shorter shelf life than those that came before.

    Tom Cruise has been around awhile, you can see how much the respect regarding his acting envelops him overall by visiting the Tomkat thread.

    Not that there aren't extremely talented actors and actresses now, or that those that came before were universally better, but I've yet to see a remake that doesn't seem to pale in comparison to the original.

    I may have a built in bias against the laziness of not being able to sift through scripts in order to come up with a relatively fresh notion, though, and that isn't just restricted to the present day atrors and actresses seeking a payday.

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    I found this review of the new version. It sounds weird when they call it a "rogue" wave, instead of a tidalwave or tsunami. I like the 1972 version for its special effects, editing gliches, and the story. I don't think I'll be seeing this one in theaters.

    The stripped-down title of the disaster epic formerly known as "The Poseidon Adventure" accurately reflects the movie itself -- an early-summer vehicle that's built for speed, with scant time to develop characters before the world turns upside-down. Thanks to its simple construction, Wolfgang PetersenWolfgang Petersen's large-scale liner moves reasonably well, though anyone with the faintest memory of its 1972 predecessor will wonder where most of the plot went, and the dialogue is so stilted it can honestly be said the less the better. Given that, Warner Bros. should enjoy a few bright mornings after, though prospects of an extended theatrical voyage appear unlikely.

    Petersen came to prominence directing another sea-faring tale, "Das Boot," but beyond the waves the two films are polar opposites -- one exploring human nature under claustrophobic conditions, the other basically using its actors as props in a video-game style ascent to survival.

    It's equally telling that when the producers "started from scratch with an all-new screenplay and original, contemporary characters," as Petersen explains in the production notes, the demography of that hardy band changed considerably. And while Richard Dreyfuss plays a gay architect, which can be seen as a nod to a new century, there's no room anymore for Shelley Winters' fat old Mrs. Rosen; instead, the three central females -- Jacinda BarrettJacinda Barrett, Emmy RossumEmmy Rossum and Mia Maestro -- all look pretty fabulous when wet.

    Written by Mark ProtosevichMark Protosevich, "Poseidon" dispenses with its exposition in the first 20 minutes, and even then, as sparingly as possible. Dylan (Josh Lucas) is a ne'er-do-well gambler, first seen in a high-stakes poker game opposite Robert (Kurt Russell), who is -- for no particular reason -- the former mayor of New York.

    Robert is traveling with his headstrong daughter (Rossum) and her boyfriend (Mike VogelMike Vogel), a relationship Robert isn't thrilled about. Dylan, meanwhile, engages in a brief flirtation with a single mom (Barrett) who has brought along her young son, whereas Elena (Maestro) has stowed away, having lacked the passage for a trip to see her ailing brother in New York.

    That's about as much as the audience learns before the wave hits, leaving the special effects, in essence, as the star of the story. And while there are some impressive, harrowing sequences as passengers get picked off by an almost biblical parade of threats, the initial impact of that great "rogue wave" is over in a matter of moments, and some of the imagery is too conspicuously computer generated, diminishing its impact.

    As the aspiring Moses attempting to lead his people to the promised land (minus the priestly vestments cloaked on Gene HackmanGene Hackman), Lucas cuts a dashing figure, and the male bonding between him and Russell brings almost the only sparks that fly character-wise.

    At least Dreyfuss' efforts to assist "Alias""Alias" co-star Maestro are perfectly chaste in this telling, as opposed to Red Buttons' dragging a well-soaked Carol Lynley along behind him.

    From a practical standpoint, the movie's truncated running time will doubtless come as a pleasant surprise to some, not only allowing theaters to squeeze in extra showings but sparing teens the ordeal of sitting through mushy emotion before things start blowing up. And despite the liberties taken, this version is preferable to Hallmark's recent made-formade-for-TV update, which absurdly revised the story so that terrorists triggered a blast that tipped the boat over.

    Indeed, after a spate of overly long blockbusters from Petersen, including "Troy," just the fact that he brings one home in less than 100 minutes represents an interesting twist. Still, even if the goal was to test whether audiences will warm to a disaster yarn that barely bothers to identify its victims, "Poseidon" goes a little overboard.
    http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117930420?categoryId=31&cs=1

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabriel View Post
    That would mean the brain works.....







    I could not agree more with you. The original was great for it's time and while the actors in the new one are good I need to repeat your "they can't hold a candle..." I feel the same way about Oceans 11- While the actors in the new Oceans 11 were good, Clooney, Pitt et al., they just cannot compare to Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra, Sammy Davis, Peter Lawford, Joey Bishop, Angie Dickinson et al...
    Add me to the bandwagon, please, for both Poseidon and Ocean's Eleven. I despise when they remake classic films. They are rarely, if ever, as good as the original despite the improvement in technology. Offhand, I cannot think of one that was as good as the original.

    I shudder at the thought that someone may think it a good idea to remake Casablanca.
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    I think they are calling it a rogue wave because now everyone knows so much about tsunamis etc. that the audience would start worrying about where it would hit land and warning people, and not about the boat people. Rogue wave sounds like it could just pop up, flip them and die down. Just my guess.

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    This movie looks amazing with all the effects and all. Can't wait to see it.
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