Here's an interesting "Reality TV" tidbit...during the "lie detector" test, it's not really a test. The producers tape the women just saying yes and no over and over. Then, they have the daughters ask questions, and later edit in the responses from the ladies. Maybe the show needs a lie detector test. In addition, when you see the brief snippets of what looks like an interview with the ladies giving their impressions of what's going on, those are actually lines provided by the producers. The girls are given a list of things to read, they read them in front of the camera, and then the producers edit comments in where they fit. It's not really what those girls may be thinking at the time.
Well, I'm SHOCKED, simply SHOCKED to hear that! :rofl
In other thread people have accepted the lie detector tests at face value. (props to TvSultan for starting this thread). Even though we are probably only seeing a very edited version of what occurred, there is no way these examinations have any validity. They are so far off that it is a complete fraud in my experience.
I've been administered at least 20 over my career. A polygraph examination, when properly set up, takes several hours, not the few minutes to an hour that could possibly be available in this setting. One I took even lasted more than one day. First a baseline must be established using a set of questions to which the answers are known ,and then the actual questions in the examination must have been very carefully written. For example, "Do you want to marry a man who has children?" is an unbounded question. It does not establish the age range for those children. These three siblings are all well over 21, and while they are Marty's children, none is still a child. It's a bogus question because it allows for interpretation.
No doubt the producers ensure that the siblings and Marty make positive statements about the LDT because it is part of their storyline, but if they actually believe in the validity of the results then they clearly are fools.
For Reality TV to be successful, I think it must be believable. Setting aside the difficulty -- if not the impossibility -- of finding a life partner in a competition like this, the amateur attempt at a polygraph exam makes this complete fiction.
I really think the lie detector thing detracts from the show. It's just not necessary
TvSultan -- I'm willing to take you at your word because you are here, a new, proud member of FORT. But, how do you respond to the following extract from the NBC PR interview with Marti and daugther, Jennnifer?
"Did you three take the lie detector seriously?
Yeah, we did. The answers and whether they were true or not. Also, the way the ladies handled themselves. If you're being yourself and you're truthful, it shouldn't be that nerve-wracking. If I saw someone that was extremely nervous or had a tough time answering things, it made me wonder what she was hiding. Some people do get nervous, but if you've been yourself the whole time and you've been honest with us the whole time, then you should have nothing to worry about."
Your comments and theirs do not appear compatable. Does NBC lie to us? Surely not! :thud
Another reality site did an interview with Nick, the original Lie Detector Guy, last season. The tests he administers are real, but some of the reaction shots, and his "thumbs up/down" shots are edited in after the fact.
But, whatever. Real or not, they're a part of the show - how much value they have is, of course, debatable.
John, our chief cynic actually believes someone from Reality TV? I'm overwhelmed. ROLF
I believe some things on reality TV. In fact, I'm probably the least cynical person around. I think people are usually WAY too quick to jump on the "it's all rigged" bandwagon. Of course, it's TV, not reality, so of course some things are staged/reshot/etc. But overall, it's usually still "real" (as in, unscripted with non-professional actors). Except in a few rare cases, like The Casino.
I think they ought to be able to put the bachelor through a lie detector test. also! Ask some questions like..... Are your kids this inviolved with your everday life?, Do you expect your wife to clean and pick up after you?, Can you marry someone with their own career?, Do you leave the toilet seat up?...(lol)
when they have the answers then all the ladies should have the opportunity to say "I'm outta here" or "I'll stick around".
That format would have shortened many Bachelor shows by weeks or eliminated many up front with out the drama. Then they could have focused more in depth on the people who were truly interested
...and "have you cheated on anyone", and "do you really want a relationship or a place to put your tongue" and that sort of thing. :rolleyes
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