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    Quote Originally Posted by aname
    I don't think either of the girls were a good choice for this choice, but Rachel is better than Andrea. Andrea was too cold and calculating, but Rachel is such a ditz. I just can't see her being that attractive to that many men.
    This kind of comment always amuses me, it's probably a Mars/Venus thing but why would you think a guy wouldn't be attracted to a ditz? In general guys are interested in finding a woman who is attractive and fun to be with, and what's not fun about being with a ditz? You can pretty much figure out who a guy is going to pick if you keep those two things in mind. Of course there are exceptions, (e.g. some guys are looking for a mommy figure), but most guys are looking to hook up with the best looking women they can attract who is fun to be with. And it doesn't matter how good looking she is, if she's not fun to be with he won't stay with her.

    The next time you're asking "She's such a ditz/moron/whatever why is he with her?" Take a look at him, is he smiling? That's why. I guess the equivalent going the other way is why guys can never figure out why women like bad boys(tm). "He treats you like crap and you keep running back to him", it just doesn't make sense to us.

    In my opinion this is one of the main reasons that relationships/marriages fail. At the beginning of the relationship the couple are having fun, fooling around, laughing, etc. but once the relationship starts to get serious the fun slowly leaks away and the guy goes looking for fun somewhere else. It may be watching the game with his buddies, downloading porn off the internet or it may be in the bed of another women. I have a piece of advice (which is worth at least half the money you're paying for it) for the women reading this who are in a relationship with a guy. Is your guy having fun with you? If not your relationship is in trouble. If this is you, take a look at yourself and see if there is anything you can change about yourself to make yourself more fun to be with. You can't change him, (you can't, just accept it) the more you try the less fun you are going to be, to be with.

    Please don't think I'm trying to say it's all the women's fault, it could very easily be crap the guy is doing or not doing that is making you be less fun to be with (from his point of view). What I'm trying to say is that if your guy isn't having fun with you, he's going to be looking for fun somewhere else.



    Wow that got serious... sorry about that. This may not be the best place to discuss this, if anyone is interested in discussing it perhaps you can suggest a better place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aname
    It seems pretty obvious to me that Rachel will pick money over the guy if that is the option. She seems to be doing FLOM4 for the money alone. I don't think either of the girls were a good choice for this choice, but Rachel is better than Andrea. Andrea was too cold and calculating, but Rachel is such a ditz. I just can't see her being that attractive to that many men.

    Compared to last year with Erin, Rachel is always commenting on the money aspect of the game. I would really be surprised, right now, if Rachel opts for the guy either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by psucashcow
    Compared to last year with Erin, Rachel is always commenting on the money aspect of the game. I would really be surprised, right now, if Rachel opts for the guy either.
    I know....I've got to wonder about NBC....I'm sure they have picked up on the fact that she's so aware of the money (my gosh, she even worried about her gut reaction to Josh's come-on so much, she started preening him in the limo!). NBC could really have a lot of fun at her expense , by switching the guy's check amounts. She'll be flitting from guy to guy the whole time depending on who has what amount of money at any given time. This could be fun to watch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roseskid
    I know....I've got to wonder about NBC....I'm sure they have picked up on the fact that she's so aware of the money (my gosh, she even worried about her gut reaction to Josh's come-on so much, she started preening him in the limo!). NBC could really have a lot of fun at her expense , by switching the guy's check amounts. She'll be flitting from guy to guy the whole time depending on who has what amount of money at any given time. This could be fun to watch.
    I was really taken aback by her reaction to Josh after he mauled her in the car and she was worried about what he thought of her - would he not pick her because she had resisted his unwanted advances! My God, what is this girl thinking. Is she so interested in the money that she would allow some idiot to molest her because she is afraid of offending him? When I said she was a ditz, I didn't mean a fun-loving free-spirit, I meant someone who had a very skewed value system.

    It will be interesting to see how long she keeps the $1 boys around. Unless their $ position changes, Miss Money Hungry won't care how cute they are - they are toast!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aname
    I was really taken aback by her reaction to Josh after he mauled her in the car and she was worried about what he thought of her - would he not pick her because she had resisted his unwanted advances! My God, what is this girl thinking.
    This was particularly upsetting to me, because I thought, "it's no wonder some guys say they get mixed signals from some girls." I always thought guys were just claiming to be confused (maybe some are), but that one limo scene honestly had me horrified because she was bouncing from one extreme to the other. Josh had to be so confused by her behaviour -- I think the fact that she would be willing to do that for money says A LOT about her as a person and it's not good.
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    I definitely agree with both of you (again!) roseskid & aname!! Last week's limo scene with Josh was the kind of thing that makes MY eyes bug out! I don't understand why a woman would do something like that - suck up to a guy after she rebuffed him because she's afraid he won't like her (and pick her over the money, in this case!) I can see why Josh was confused - she came on to him & when he reciprocated, she didn't like that... maybe she likes to be the one in control...
    Oh well, Josh is long gone, so who cares!!

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    Wow, Rachel is some piece of work. She is SO FOCUSED on the money, she can't even pretend she's truly interested in the guys, with the possible exception of psycho Mike. What she sees in him, I can't understand. Actually she is so focused on the money, that that's what I think she sees in him. I think she thinks she can manipulate him better (I probably could have worded that better! )

    But the way this show is turning out, I am loving the fact that everybody is more focused on the money aspect of things, than the love aspect! I think it's hilarious that even Rachel, herself, has taken a back seat to the money. I keep waiting to have Rachel enter the room, and the guys say, "hey, wait, who's that! Where'd she come from? Now, about those checks......"
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    "Nice to meet you. I'm Sybil . . .I mean, Rachel"

    Quote Originally Posted by chrisdevine
    I couldnt agree more, you no how funny that would be, remember when preston didnt chose her and she started bickering and b!tching? itll be deja vu all over again
    Since Rachel became the only woman on the scene, I'm noticing a whole new side to her. It's almost like she's become a different person. Last night at the elimination, she was all flirty and laughing and smiling big, and dare I say, she looked quite attractive. No hint of that scowly eyeroller we came to know and lo . . .er, have strong reactions to. Rachel is quite the little actress, I must say . . .coming across as a sweet and vivacious girl in her interactions with the men. Her REAL personality is still in evidence during the confessionals, though.

    Gee, I miss the old days when the real Rachel was still out there for everyone to see . . .I think this show would have been a mile more entertaining if they'd kept Andrea around longer & made Rachel compete with her for several episodes. The presence of other women brings out Rachel's ravening insecurities and her snarky side. With no other women in the picture, she's getting a tad overconfident. I miss those things her ravening insecurity used to make her do. This 'new' confident Rachel is a bore . . .though the guys are even more boring. Yaaaaawn . . .how many more episodes of this snorefest?

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    I agree, hikari.
    Much as I disliked Andrea, her presence later into the show would have kept things interesting and "bad Rachel" would have made more appearances.
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    I'm sure NBC is kicking themselves for getting rid of Andrea so soon. Having the two of them vieing for the guys promised to be lots of fun. What do you bet, if they do this show again, they'll keep that aspect of it around longer?
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