Joe Schmo 1 (all posts)

[FORTSciolist]

Okay, I just figured out what happened. When Melsbud responded to my question, I thought she was the original poster and couldn't figure out what it was with reference to. I took it as a direct answer and not a joke from another poster. I now see it was sstalpo who said "did you have a good time", not Melsbud which totally changed the context of the response (at least in my fuzzy mind). Oh, this is all so difficult to explain but suffice it to say I now see where the confusion came from and all's well. My mistake for mistaking identity.

If I understand what just happened here, we've witnessed an interesting sociological/etymological evolution within this mini-community we've created.

A character on a certain television show used the transitive verb "respect" in a non-standard manner to refer to a biological function. This community adopted the variant definition and repeatedly used it in its communications with each other. (An outsider would have found these communications benign and even a bit confusing.) However, within this group, the word achieves such currency that a member actually became genuinely (albeit mistakenly) offended when this term was directed to her.

When our hero Matt used a certain C- word to refer to a woman in the swimming pool, quite a few people here took offense to what he said. However, prior to the early twentieth century, that word was standard English and simply described a part of the female anatomy without any insulting meaning associated with it. (The poet Chaucer even used the word in "The Canterbury Tales," although it was spelled in Middle English as "queynte.") It was not until the first two decades of the last century that the C- word gained its derogatory meaning, first within a limited community and then, later, expanding out to the general English-speaking population. It is now almost universally regarded as insulting.

We may not yet have incorporated the word "respect" into any memorable literature. However, what Matt's word took centuries to achieve, we have done in a matter of weeks. We should all be proud of and amazed at ourselves.

[melsbud]

If I understand what just happened here, we've witnessed an interesting sociological/etymological evolution within this mini-community we've created.

A character on a certain television show used the transitive verb "respect" in a non-standard manner to refer to a biological function. This community adopted the variant definition and repeatedly used it in its communications with each other. (An outsider would have found these communications benign and even a bit confusing.) However, within this group, the word achieves such currency that a member actually became genuinely (albeit mistakenly) offended when this term was directed to her.

When our hero Matt used a certain C- word to refer to a woman in the swimming pool, quite a few people here took offense to what he said. However, prior to the early twentieth century, that word was standard English and simply described a part of the female anatomy without any insulting meaning associated with it. (The poet Chaucer even used the word in "The Canterbury Tales," although it was spelled in Middle English as "queynte.") It was not until the first two decades of the last century that the C- word gained its derogatory meaning, first within a limited community and then, later, expanding out to the general English-speaking population. It is now almost universally regarded as insulting.

We may not yet have incorporated the word "respect" into any memorable literature. However, what Matt's word took centuries to achieve, we have done in a matter of weeks. We should all be proud of and amazed at ourselves.

In my decidedly less eloquent reply, good point! Now I know why you're a lawyer! (Any tips for me? I'm doing my LSATS in the spring!)

And all's forgiven Wendiness. I'm happy as long as there's mutual respect amongst each other.

[breathless4975]

I can't believe there have been almost 152,000 views of this thread. I guess we are just rabib fans of the show. I try to watch all the reruns and never get tired of watching. I'm looking forward to seeing the finale again tonight.

[DrBuglove]

I'm happy as long as there's mutual respect amongst each other.

To achieve that we'd need; a room covered in plastic, 15 bottles of Wesson Oil, 18 cans of Reddy Whip, a midget dressed as Superman, and enough muffins for everybody... I think that would cover it...

[PSi]

Are there going to be ruruns? I need something to do Tuesday 9PM. i need my schmo fix.

[sstalpo]

The only other explanation for the sounds we heard would have been balloons deliberately popped, recorded, and then manipulated to sound like gunfire.

However, that would be dishonest, right?

Yeahhhhhh, right. As Matt would say "welcome to Hollywood" LOL

(I guess we'll have to wait for the Director's Cut DVD to find out the truth.)

I'm having fading, less than hopefull hopes, about the DVD. I just don't see how Spike is gonna to see this as a business profit thing to do. *sigh* I so wish it was different, but sales vs. cost of production and since what we are hungry for is all those unused scenes (like Matt pounding the front door, and the boyfriend's rehersal), and the other extras. I dunno. I remember when MTV did all those real world books and things.. I would REALLY like to see all those cutting room floor clips. *sigh*

I might do the snail mail letter then, as well.. Oh Inundated???

PS - Wendi and Mel.. glad its okiedokie. OH and Wendi.. so DID you go to a RHPS Halloween night? I was pretty tired too.. probably got that idea from whoknows.

FORTSciolist ?? You done like speak real good there!

[sstalpo]

Are there going to be ruruns? I need something to do Tuesday 9PM. i need my schmo fix.

Yep! They are going to rerun the whole show.. from start to end. Same time, Same night. JUST like before.

[mrpayroll]

Did anyone used to watch Murder in Small Town X? They had a bunch of characters like that.

but I think Osten's the prime example. Just cuz he's built like a Greek god (well, a black Greek god) does not make him a good player! What a tool!

Yes, I saw that show and thought it was pretty unique. The problem was, it was being broadcast right before Sept 11th and that killed any momentum the show might have had. I applaud Fox for putting that on, it was different.

Sept 11th also killed 'Lost' for those of you that remember that show. It premiered right along side of 'The Amazing Race' and thank God 'The Amazing Race' survived, because it's one of the top 5 reality shows of all time, along with 'The Mole'

Chris

[breathless4975]

To achieve that we'd need; a room covered in plastic, 15 bottles of Wesson Oil, 18 cans of Reddy Whip, a midget dressed as Superman, and enough muffins for everybody... I think that would cover it...

Hilarious!!

[Inundated]

Are there going to be ruruns? I need something to do Tuesday 9PM. i need my schmo fix.

As a matter of fact, TJSS seems to be headed for another repeat schedule in order. In addition to repeats of the finale over the weekend, Spike TV's schedule shows TJSS #1 airing Tuesday night at 9 PM. I'm guessing it'll probably run another full run at least until they put something else in the slot.

Nov 4 2003 9:00PM 001 - Episode description is not available
Nov 4 2003 10:00PM 009 - Episode description is not available
Nov 8 2003 4:00PM 009 - Episode description is not available
Nov 9 2003 8:00PM 001 - Episode description is not available
Nov 10 2003 1:00AM 001 - Episode description is not available
Nov 11 2003 9:00PM 002 - Episode description is not available
Nov 11 2003 10:00PM 001 - Episode description is not available

Of course, on Tuesday, since they're following the "repeat the last episode after the first airing" pattern, the finale follows the first episode!

I'm having fading, less than hopefull hopes, about the DVD. I just don't see how Spike is gonna to see this as a business profit thing to do. *sigh* I so wish it was different, but sales vs. cost of production and since what we are hungry for is all those unused scenes (like Matt pounding the front door, and the boyfriend's rehersal), and the other extras. I dunno. I remember when MTV did all those real world books and things.. I would REALLY like to see all those cutting room floor clips. *sigh*

My dear Ms. ss...don't fret. The gut in me says it'll happen eventually. The biggest thing in favor of it is the stellar ratings the show garnered. That gets past a lot of hurdles. We just have to actively let Spike TV know that we WILL buy the DVD, and in numbers. I'm thinking of even sending them a check or something for whatever the DVD would probably sell for ($39?? I think boxed sets of TV show DVDs are in that range usually). Now, I don't know if they'd actually cash it or use it, but heck, maybe "sending money in advance" would floor 'em...I bet that doesn't happen often

Oh, and of course, we do have a certain co-creator/executive producer who is with us on this, and will be pitching the idea to them in a much more direct fashion.

I might do the snail mail letter then, as well.. Oh Inundated???

Gee...only on this board do women call out my name

Spike TV
1515 Broadway
New York, NY 10036
Attn: Consumer Products Division

I'm going to try to think of some more creative ways to express my desire for the DVD, too.