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    Winner really doesn't get restaurant.

    Many of the postings talk about how none of the contestants (idiots, dead men walking) couldn't handle winning a restaurant. The 7/10 recap even suggests a substitute prize of a "Hot Dog on a Stick Stand in Barstow." Well, there's no need to worry. The people on the show are going through Hell for only a job as head bottle washer.

    That's right. If you go to fox.com and Hell's Kitchen's webpage, click on the showinfo button to read this:

    Here's the quote describing "The ultimate mouth-watering prize." The contestants will win "The coveted title of Executive Chef of a luxurious fine-dining restaurant" at the Red Rock resort.

    Well, they at least get to design the restaurant you say. Wrong! "In addition, the winner will be eligible to receive a financial interest in the restaurant and assist its design."

    This means if Ramsay has to pick a idiot (insert favorite here) Red Rocks can "assist" the winner out of the way.

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    An Executive Chef CAN be a co-owner... but usually isn't.

    And yeah. An Exec chef doesn't have to do much. Anthony Bourdain is still Exec Chef in a restaurant he's only set foot in a few dozen times in the past 5 years.

    Hopefully an Exec Chef would get to design THE MENU at the very least. But even there, well... I doubt an owner would hesitate to override it, and I doubt that the day-to-day head chef would hesitate to adapt it as much as needed.

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    Thanks, mpc. Do you suppose the contestant knew ahead of time what the prize would be? Perhaps anyone qualified to do it knew from the description it wasn't much of anything?

    Well, it would probably look good on a resume.

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    http://fox.com/hellskitchen/showinfo/


    World-renowned chef GORDON RAMSAY is back for a second serving of the sizzling unscripted series HELL’S KITCHEN – and he’s putting 12 new would-be restaurateurs on his chopping block.

    A former pro-soccer-player-turned-Michelin-starred-chef, Ramsay has conquered London’s haute cuisine scene. Now he’s crossing the Pond again, to discover – or create – America’s next culinary star.

    The heat is on and the “steaks” are high as the contestants endure Ramsay’s hellishly intense culinary boot camp for a chance to win the ultimate mouth-watering prize – the coveted title of Executive Chef of a luxurious fine-dining restaurant at the brand-new Red Rock Casino Resort and Spa in Las Vegas. In addition, the winner will be eligible to receive a financial interest in the restaurant and assist its design.

    Each week Ramsay will grill the ambitious hopefuls as they attempt to prove they have what it takes to run their own restaurant. He will slice and dice the contestants, keeping only those who possess the right combination of ingredients to ensure success.

    The contestants’ inexperience, combined with the perfectionist Ramsay’s acid tongue, may be a recipe for disaster, but for one aspiring restaurateur it’s the chance of a lifetime.

    In this pressure-cooker environment, only one thing is certain: if the contestants can’t stand the heat, they’ll have to get out of HELL’S KITCHEN.

    Red Rock Casino, Resort and Spa is located 10 miles west of the Las Vegas Strip at the base of Red Rock Canyon and features 850 rooms, a 35,000- square-foot spa, Rande Gerber’s nightclub Cherry, nine restaurants and gaming.

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    Why is there the impression that being an Executive Chef of a huge important restaurant is "not much of anything"? Sure, it's not as profitable as owning something, but it's like being made an Executive at a corporation. An Executive at a corporation doesn't necessarily own the company, except for stock options he or she is given, but it's still considered a pinnacle of a corporate career track. This is similar--it's prestigious, with a big salary compared to most "cooking" jobs, if you leave it after serving for a while you can perhaps get similar jobs elsewhere, and maybe even investors for your own venture.

    Again, theoretically an Executive Chef COULD be a do-nothing job in some restaurants, but its not apparent whether or not this is the case here. And there's still financial and career benefits no matter what. Don't be so dismissive just because FOX had Ramsay use the phrase "give you a restaurant", which I'm sure HE meant as "give you CONTROL of a restaurant". Theoretically, at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krom
    "Don't be so dismissive just becasue FOX had Ramsay use the phrase 'give you a restaurant.'"
    But the fun of posting here is to be dismissive and snarky. Now, it is true that a good candidate could get the responsiblility that you suggest. But again, many people on this site believe none of the candidates could handle an Easy Bake Oven. On the original U.S. HK, Ramsay offered the winner a chance to train with him instead of the restaurant. The winner took the offer and is now trying to sell sterling silver chef knives. Several posters on various threads are speculating that FOX will try some substitution like that again.

    With HK2, FOX has built into the rules an out. To be charitable, if Ramsay or Red Rocks believes the candidate isn't ready for the full responsiblity then the rules allow the hotel to "assist" the winner aside. Or not as charitably, if Ramsay has to pick an idiot then Red Rocks can make the winner Executive Broom Handler.
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    It would be more satisfying to viewers and probably contestants if the prize fit the skill level of the players. Cash, scholarship to the Cordon Blu in Paris, a gourmet kitchen as featured in Top Chef or a trip around the world to visit famous restaurants. This prize is deceptive and only serves to reduce the credibility of this show which has little anyway.

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    I hardly think an Executive Chef at a casino could be classified as a head bottle washer. From Salary.com
    The median expected salary for a typical Executive Chef - Casino in the United States is $75,575. This basic market pricing report was prepared using our Certified Compensation Professionals' analysis of survey data collected from thousands of HR departments at employers of all sizes, industries and geographies.

    Job Description
    Executive Chef - Casino
    Responsible for all of the operations of the kitchens. Creates and updates menus to maximize profits and minimize loss. Tests and develops recipes. Monitors customer satisfaction. Maintains inventory of kitchen supplies and food. Ensures that food and facilities meet all governmental regulations. May require a bachelor's degree in area of specialty and at least 7 years of experience in the field or in a related area. Familiar with a variety of the field's concepts, practices, and procedures. Relies on extensive experience and judgment to plan and accomplish goals. Performs a variety of tasks. Leads and directs the work of others. A wide degree of creativity and latitude is expected. Typically reports to top management.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogbat View Post
    It would be more satisfying to viewers and probably contestants if the prize fit the skill level of the players. Cash, scholarship to the Cordon Blu in Paris, a gourmet kitchen as featured in Top Chef or a trip around the world to visit famous restaurants. This prize is deceptive and only serves to reduce the credibility of this show which has little anyway.
    I agree. I think alot of real clarification is needed for these prizes to make them more credible and obtainable for these deeply "unprepared" contestants. So far, the only one on the show who can actually run a restaurant, besides Ramsay, is the quietly dignified Jean Philippe...not just a "waiter", but a highly trained, well-qualified restaurant manager for years (also trained in food/cooking).

    All this hooha about a million dollar restaurant in a billion dollar resort is basically alot of hot air. The viewership would have alot more respect for FOX if they'd just come right out and realistically offer the contestants a cash prize and an actual learning apprenticeship in one of Ramsay's restaurants. That shouldn't be too hard as I understand Ramsay is opening 3 or 4 new restaurants here in the states soon. The winner wouldn't even have to go live in England for a year or so, just relocate right here at home.

    I can't think of one contestant this season who would not greatly benefit (or even deeply needs it) from being "taught" about cooking from a "Ramsay" chef...bet they even know how to turn on an oven and make Risotto flow like lava and everything!

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    Is clarification really needed? If so, only for reality viewers and only because FOX made it fuzzy with phrases like "get a restaurant". I think the position of Executive Chef, and the actual duties, are reasonably well known.

    That said, given the level of the contestants, its undeniable that the prize COULD be better constructed for them. Maybe, a job as a Sous Chef for Ramsey, although of course the reality may be that he doesn't want to threaten his real "product" with these amateurs.

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