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    Sorry to hear she's not back to normal. Any speculation on what the light spots could be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutmutter;2213640;
    Sorry to hear she's not back to normal. Any speculation on what the light spots could be?

    All the dr keeps tossing around is that is could be pneumonia, cancer or lung disease. That's why after Thursday if I do not get a definitive answer i will seek out another opinion. I'm not saying this Dr. is not a good one, she's been their Doctor since 1998, but maybe something is being missed.
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    Good idea.
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    gabriel: I wish the vet would have had some better and specific information for you about Mona's condition. I do hope that a second opinion helps sort things out. In the meantime, give her a BIG but gentle hug from me and the kitts. You are in our thoughts.

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    WARNING: For pets and small children
    I received this e-mail from a friend. I'm taking it seriously.

    Recently someone had to have their 5-year old German Shepherd dog put down due to liver failure. The dog was completely healthy until a few weeks ago, so they had a necropsy done to see what the cause was.

    The liver levels were unbelievable, as if the dog had ingested poison of some kind. The dog is kept inside, and when he's outside, someone's with him, so the idea of him getting into something unknown was hard to believe. My neighbor started going through all the items in the house.

    When he got to the Swiffer Wetjet, he noticed, in very tiny print, a warning which stated "may be harmful to small children and animals." He called the company to ask what the contents of the cleaning agent are and was astounded to find out that antifreeze is one of the ingredients. (actually he was told it's a compound which is one molecule away from
    antifreeze).

    Therefore, just by the dog walking on the floor cleaned with the solution, then licking it's own paws, it ingested enough of the solution to destroy its liver.

    Soon after his dog's death, his housekeepers' two cats also died of liver failure. They both used the Swiffer Wetjet for quick cleanups on their floors. Necropsies weren't done on the cats, so they couldn't file a lawsuit, but he asked that we spread the word to as many people as possible so they don't lose their animals. This is equally harmful to babies and small children that play on the floor a lot and put their fingers in their mouths a lot.

    USE ONLY CLEANING INGREDIENTS THAT ARE NOT HARMFUL TO YOUR PETS AND CHILDREN.
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    Apparently the email that misskitty read has been revealed as a hoax, thank goodness!


    Found this info:

    http://www.petcaretips.net/swiffer-w...g-product.html


    Is Swiffer WetJet floor cleaning products safe for use around
    children and pets?


    Question:

    There has been an internet email going around -- regarding the
    use of Swiffer WetJet floor cleaning products. The email claims there
    is a harmful chemical in the cleaning product that pets pick up
    on their feet. When the dog or cat grooms and licks their feet,
    they ingest this harmful chemical -- which has resulted in the
    death of pets across the country.

    Is there any truth to this... or is it just another internet hoax?


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    Answer:


    In direct response to the e-mail's charge, Procter and Gamble
    has posted a rebuttal:

    There is a false Internet rumor circulating rapidly among pet
    owners alleging that Swiffer WetJet may contain antifreeze
    and is harmful to pets. The Wet cloths and WetJet liquid solution
    cleaners do not contain antifreeze or any ingredient similar to it.
    In fact, all Swiffer products are safe to use around pets.

    We evaluated the Swiffer Wet cloths and WetJet cleaners to ensure
    they're safe — a fact confirmed by the ASPCA, independent veterinarians
    and scientists. In fact, for nearly five years, people in over
    38 million U.S. homes have safely used Swiffer products on
    everything from the kitchen and living room floors to tables and ceiling fans.

    We have pets too, and their health and well-being is very important to
    us. Please help us stop this rumor by sharing the truth with others.


    The ASPCA's Animal Poison Control Center has also issued a statement declaring this rumor to be unfounded:


    Urbana, IL) May 6, 2004 -- Veterinary toxicologists at the ASPCA
    Animal Poison Control Center have reviewed the claim described
    in a widely distributed email alleging a relationship between the
    use of Swiffer Wet Jet and liver failure in a dog. The email
    alleges that exposure to the ingredients in Swiffer Wet Jet
    caused a dog's death.

    The Swiffer Wet Jet system contains water (90-100%), propylene
    glycol n-propyl ether or propylene glycol n-butyl ether and
    isopropyl alcohol (1-4%). These ingredients are safe to use
    around pets when used according to label directions and would
    not cause liver damage at product concentrations. Propylene
    glycol n-butyl/propyl ether differs significantly from ethylene
    glycol, the potentially toxic ingredient present in most antifreeze
    products. Ethylene glycol is frequently implicated in causing
    renal failure in dogs following antifreeze ingestion. Propylene
    glycol n-propyl ether and propylene glycol n-butyl ether are
    very safe ingredients at levels used in cleaning products
    and do not cause kidney or liver failure.


    The ASPCA will continue to monitor this situation and will post
    any additional information as it becomes available. Please call
    1-888-426-4435 if you have any questions or have a pet that you
    suspect is experiencing problems, or visit us at
    www.apcc.aspca.org.






    Alfred & Tippy Say:

    One of the most common pet emergencies is from pets being poisoned by common household chemicals.


    This can be avoided easily by making sure you put bottles and containers away in a safe and secure place.

    Basically take the same precautions you would with a small child.

    But also many household cleaning products contain toxins that can harm the pet's even after using them.

    We urge you to take a look at some natural cleaning alternatives to harsh conventional cleaning products.
    "...each affects the other, and the other affects the next, and the world is full of stories, but the stories are all one." - Mitch Albom, one helluva writer

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    It's always smart to check snopes (www.snopes.com) before posting verbatim any chain emails you receive. No need to get people scared over things that are usually complete crap.

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    Sorry, Misskitty, this is not true!
    I have, right now, in my hand, a bottle of the Swiffer wetjet cleaner, which I love. As do most any cleaning products, it does read "Keep Out Of The Reach Of Children." and "in case of eye contact flush with water to reduce irritation. If irritation persists, contact a physician." That's it. The ingredients are "cleaning agents including solvents, perfume, and water. Contains no phosphates. "
    The bottle is not marked in the manner described, no matter how small, nor is it marked "Poison", as it would have to be by law if it contained antifreeze-like compunds that could hurt animals or kids."
    Don't throw away your WetJet!
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    So sorry to have posted something incorrect. I did receive it from a trustworthy friend, not just random spam. But I am glad, in any event, that it is not true.

    Still, it's always a good thing to be cautious and knowledgeable about what household cleaners you use. And I don't always trust what the big companies say.

    I will pass your information along. Thank you.
    Last edited by misskitty; 01-23-2007 at 10:44 PM.
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    misskitty, almost all of that kind of stuff comes from my most trusted friends. As well meaning as they are, some of them tend to believe everything they read, so I have learned to check those things out for myself.

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    Misskitty, don't feel bad. I think as pet owners we tend to react badly when we hear about anything that may cause harm to our babies! I received the same email and immediately went to snopes to check out the claim. I was very glad to hear that it wasn't true because I use Swiffer all the time.

    Gabriel, so sorry to hear that about Mona. I hope she feels better and that the spots are not serious. I'll keep her in my thoughts.

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