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    I need help, can't decide!

    Navy, Air Force, or Coast Guard? Need Answers ASAP!?

    I have many conflicting thoughts and just cannot decide. On one hand, I don't want to got o Iraq, but I honestly don't care that much... it's a risk I am willing to take. I want to join the reserves FOR SURE. So I can't decide between the Air Force, navy, or Coast guard.

    CG so far hasn't offered me a job I want. I scored a 61 on my ASVABS and the best the can offer me now is Boastman Mate.

    The Navy recruiter is offering me Intelligience... which I use to think I want to do. I don't know if I want to do it anymore... and I don't know why. I am leery about it ebcause I don't want to be on a boat if I get called to Active Duty.

    The Air Force, from what I hear, is treated better. I love to travel, and it doesn't see much different from the Navy. The position I'm being offered is Aircrew Life Support... but if I decided to go with the Air Force I would wait for another job.

    Basically, I need help deciding between the branches. Which is best, pros and cons, I would like detailed thoughts

    I want to go with what would be best for me if I decide to enlist as a officer (hopefully) after I achieve four years of college in my degree (right now, International Relations.)

    So, what branch would be best? What offeres better civilian careers training, or plain, what branch is the best?

    I have heard that the Navy IS (Intelligience Specialist) reserves just go once a month and study how to do it, and it's very boring. Makes sense to have to study for it though.

    I feel like the Air Force is better for me, btu I just do not know what to do.

    I don't know what I would be thinking, btu the Navy guy is pressuring me to join and the Air FOrce guy isn't, he is really relaxed... but I am just feeling alot of pressure from the Navy, and I can't tell if that's scaring me off or I just think Air Force is best for me.

    And, finally, if I choose a branch (right now leaning towards Air Force, but no definate yes or not) should I WAIT until I get a job they can guarantee me that I would enjoy. I don't know how much I would enjoy Air Crew Life Support... should I wait for an opening I would enjoy? My recruiter says it's just 6 years, and once a month, and when I join active duty I can get cross training into another field. how likely is that? I would hope I join active as an officer...

    Basically, I really don't even know if I WANT to pursue Intelligience anymore... well I think I would if it were the Air Force, but the Navy's Intelligience isn't that appealing to me. Really I don't know.

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    Re: I need help, can't decide!

    Quote Originally Posted by Julian Pyke;2419859;
    Navy, Air Force, or Coast Guard? Need Answers ASAP!?

    I have many conflicting thoughts and just cannot decide. On one hand, I don't want to got o Iraq, but I honestly don't care that much... it's a risk I am willing to take. I want to join the reserves FOR SURE. So I can't decide between the Air Force, navy, or Coast guard.

    CG so far hasn't offered me a job I want. I scored a 61 on my ASVABS and the best the can offer me now is Boastman Mate.

    The Navy recruiter is offering me Intelligience... which I use to think I want to do. I don't know if I want to do it anymore... and I don't know why. I am leery about it ebcause I don't want to be on a boat if I get called to Active Duty.

    The Air Force, from what I hear, is treated better. I love to travel, and it doesn't see much different from the Navy. The position I'm being offered is Aircrew Life Support... but if I decided to go with the Air Force I would wait for another job.

    Basically, I need help deciding between the branches. Which is best, pros and cons, I would like detailed thoughts

    I want to go with what would be best for me if I decide to enlist as a officer (hopefully) after I achieve four years of college in my degree (right now, International Relations.)

    So, what branch would be best? What offeres better civilian careers training, or plain, what branch is the best?

    I have heard that the Navy IS (Intelligience Specialist) reserves just go once a month and study how to do it, and it's very boring. Makes sense to have to study for it though.

    I feel like the Air Force is better for me, btu I just do not know what to do.

    I don't know what I would be thinking, btu the Navy guy is pressuring me to join and the Air FOrce guy isn't, he is really relaxed... but I am just feeling alot of pressure from the Navy, and I can't tell if that's scaring me off or I just think Air Force is best for me.

    And, finally, if I choose a branch (right now leaning towards Air Force, but no definate yes or not) should I WAIT until I get a job they can guarantee me that I would enjoy. I don't know how much I would enjoy Air Crew Life Support... should I wait for an opening I would enjoy? My recruiter says it's just 6 years, and once a month, and when I join active duty I can get cross training into another field. how likely is that? I would hope I join active as an officer...

    Basically, I really don't even know if I WANT to pursue Intelligience anymore... well I think I would if it were the Air Force, but the Navy's Intelligience isn't that appealing to me. Really I don't know.
    My dad was in Navy Intelligence, so I could say that's the way to go, but ONLY YOU can make this decision, but you are right in doing a bit of research.
    Let me tell you this. Whoever you decide to go with, whatever they offer you. GET IT IN WRITING!!! Let me repeat that: GET IT IN WRITING!!!!
    Because if you don't, you may wind up doing something that you aren't even considering now. There have been many that got promised one thing and ended up doing something else.

    Ask your recruiters if there are some people that have worked in the fields you are considering and if you can talk to them.
    There are a lot of military websites with forums, where you can ask active and reservists some questions. Find out as much as you possibly can before you sign on the dotted line. And go with what you think is going to benefit you jobwise after the service. If you have a degree in International Relations and you want to say, work for US interests in some other country or even continue to work for the government after yout military time is up, which one is going to benefit you more? Intelligence or aircrew life support?

    And how do you know intelligence is borning? My dad got to travel to Europe quite a bit and did a lot of work in post-war Berlin on some scientific stuff that was coming out of Hitler's government (my dad was a Chemical Engineer by this time. He started out as a pilot during the war and was sent to NI school). He was lent to the CIA for a time and he always described it as a very exciting time in his life and he was privy to see some very interesting documents.
    Me, I'd love to do intelligence work, but I'm a research geek anyway.

    But ultimately its up to you and you do need more info and you need to ask informed questions. Go to the Naval Historical Center website (lots of links to go on to places you can ask questions) and go to the Society for Military History (same thing, lots of links), the US Army Center for Military History again, lots of links and I know the Army isn't an option, but this particular website has a lot of info.

    A lot of units have their own websites. I know that the 82nd airborne has an active website, so its possible you can find a unit in the Air Force that you can ask some questions of and its possible that the NI guys might be willing to answer some questions.

    My grandfather was a corpsman in WWI and he told my dad at the start of WWII: "go in the navy, you dont' have to walk everywhere and they eat better on those ships" (true story). My husbands dad was career Army and he told his son's the EXACT same thing. 2 went in the navy, my pigheaded husband went in the Army.

    Oh and see if you can talk to some reservists in your area. The VFW, The American Legion, AMVETS could possibly all help as well as they may be able to put you in touch with some people you could talk too.

    Good luck. I hope you make a good, informed decision and get what you want. I hope your experiences are good ones and thank you for wanting to serve in our military. There is no greater thing to do than voluntarily serve our country. I have a great deal of respect for our military and our veterans.
    (I don't support this war, but I support our troops, not going to go past that, but my sig line confuses a lot of people).

    BTW, I'm studying to be a military historian, so keep us posted on what you decide to do.
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    Re: I need help, can't decide!

    Don't make the mistake of believing that being a Reservist will be one weekend a month for six years. You stand a very good chance of taking a year-long tour of some exotic location that you'd rather forget.
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    A friend of my sons went into Air Force Intelligence. He has done real well for himself. They sent him to school to learn languages, etc and paid for his education. It's going to boil down to where ever you feel most comfortable. Truly listen to what they tell you. And I'm not going to tell you to believe 100%! Reservists in our area have already done 2 tours. I know where my nephew is from the reservists are on their third and 4th tours.

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    whatever you decide JP - GOOD LUCK!!!

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    I second all the people who are telling you the reserves does NOT mean summer vacation and some weekends anymore. That's what it was back in GW Bush's day, and why people who served in Vietnam are so disdainful of his "service". But these days it means being in Iraq or Afghanistan and the like. Over and over again.
    I do think choosing the Navy or CG if you don't want to be on a boat is a little odd, but maybe you don't have to go on the water.... Safety wise being on a boat in the current conflicts is way safer than being on the land...or even in the air.
    Unclear what a life support person is... a medic? Seems really really different than intelligence work....

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    My husband was active duty Army for almost 10 years and made it out with only one short tour to Haiti. He's been in the Reserves for almost 10 years and in 2004 he was sent to Iraq for a year . He's due to retire this year but they're still making him do his two weeks summer training even though his 20 years was up this month and he put in the paperwork last year. I hope they let him out because technically we have no paperwork yet saying they will let him retire this year. They can keep him longer if they want.

    For the most part it's been one weekend a month, two weeks in the summer, but depending on the job you have, there may be additional training here and there lasting anywhere from a few days to a few weeks. And the monthly schedule is subject to change, it's not set in stone. But the military was good for us and he has no regrets.

    If possible, go to college. Have the military branch of your choice pay for you schooling if you can't do it on your own. And like myrosie said, get anything they promise you in writing. Never take their word for it. There are always negatives to any job and the military is no different. But there can also be a lot of positives in the military and opportunities to see, do, and learn things you might not otherwise have the chance to do.

    Whichever branch you choose, go with the one your mind feels the strongest about and the one you feel you'd have the least regret choosing. And did I say go to college? Yes, that will help with your paycheck and your opportunities.

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    I also know someone who was in the Naval Reserves to pay her way throught Med School. She signed up prior to 9/11 when the thought of going to war for an extended time, in the Reserves was almost a joke.

    Remember that these recruiters have a job to do and often have quotas to fill. They are going to use whatever skills they have to get you to sign up.

    An Marine recruiter came to my apartment when I was a sophomore in college, before 9/11. He tried to recruit me and my roommate. My father, a Marine in the 60s and 70s, forbid me to sign up. The recruiter even said we would get "stress cards" to show our drill sargeant if we got tired during exercises. My father laughed at that. In his day, even if you were stressed, you still had to climb the wall or finish whatever activity you were doing.

    If the issue is financials have to tried all of the scholarships and grants available. There are websites and most libraries have large books of college funding resources. You can get money for college based on your parents' occupation, which hand you write with, almost anything you could think of. Unless you want a military career, I would hold off signing anything that obligates you into military service, at least until our government figures out what to do with Iraq and preferably after the troops come home.

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    If you are looking for a job in intelligence, have you looked into domestic law enforcement?
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    Wow, thanks for everyone's help! I was always planning on goign to Reserves, finishing college, and no i did NOT think it was vacation time. hah. I am leaning towards Air Force because that's what I feel at peace about.

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    Re: I need help, can't decide!

    Let me just add that I know several people in the Navy and only 1 is assigned to a ship. The others do other things. Support mostly, but they are not on the boats. So being in the Navy doesn't mean you automatically get a boat, just like joining the Air Force doesn't mean you automatically get to fly.
    And Naval intelligence would almost guarantee you never set foot on a ship.

    You've gotten some great advice from people here. Good luck with your decision.

    Oh, also, the quota thing is true. I know a recruiter and he has a quota he has to meet monthly. Some of them can be worse than used car salesmen about pressuring you. I know the pressure turns off a LOT of people, but know that the reason is that the recruiter is being pressured from his superiors to make his montly quota. It is a sales job, cloaked in a military uniform and to me is no different than any other sales person, so beware because they will "sell" you, promise you and pressure you.

    Interesting fact: according to my recruiter friend, many recruiters become sales people (real estate, cars, etc) after they've left the military. I find that interesting, but they are already in sales, so its a natural progression I guess.
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