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    Quote Originally Posted by Muduh;2195102;
    This post really caught my eye. Do you have any idea why someone would take a small baby to a chiropracter? My husband recently made a few trips to one and I saw this woman being the baby in a few times. I just wonder how they figure out that the baby needs to be there. We soon found out that my husband DIDN'T need to be, but I still wondered about the baby.
    My mom was talking to a lady about my 2 month old niece's reflux disease and the lady told her that her grand-daughter had the same problem and was brought to the chiro, who cured her. I doubt pediatricians would send babies to chiro, as many doctors don't agree with their alternative solutions.

    Here is a similar story to those I have heard.
    http://www.bcchiro.com/chiroandyou/news_babycolic.htm

    Little Kaitlyn Aylesworth is one happy baby. A big smile rarely leaves the 41/2-month-old's face, especially as she tries to grab the cat when it sashays by. Her squeals of delight are music to her parents' ears. But it's the timing that makes them even more special to Mary Murrell and Rob Aylesworth.

    It's almost 4 p.m., and there's no sign of Kaitlyn's joie de vivre letting up. Three months ago, 4 p.m. was the "nightmare" hour. Like thousands of other Canadian babies, Kaitlyn had colic. The otherwise happy infant would begin crying at about 4 p.m. every day and cry inconsolably for hours -- night after night after night. A six-hour crying stretch each night was the norm.

    Murrell and Aylesworth tried everything to comfort their only child. Nothing worked until they turned to a chiropractor. Although initially skeptical of the treatment, they now chalk up the turnaround in their daughter's health to the chiropractic adjustments done on the little girl's spine.

    Chiropractic treatment for infants is somewhat controversial. The Canadian Paediatric Society says there is no scientific evidence to support its safety and effectiveness in treating non-musculoskeletal conditions in children, such as colic.

    And despite glowing anecdotal responses from many patients, and studies from chiropractic associations, the medical community remains leery of infant chiropractic treatment.

    But more parents are turning to it, especially after trying everything else in the medical arsenal to deal with the rigours of colic.

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    Aylesworth works at Royal Jubilee Hospital, and nurses there suggested chiropractic treatment for the colic. Both parents were doubtful, but decided to at least talk to a chiropractor after six weeks of very little sleep.

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    Murrell herself uses a chiropractor when she has back problems, and the thought of a chiropractor "cracking" an infant's back worried her. But she talked to Dr. Chris Votova, who explained that the amount of pressure used on an infant is comparable to a light massage, not the adjustments used for adults.

    "It was like a massage with his thumb," Murrell said.

    One chiropractor likened it to testing the ripeness of a tomato.

    Murrell laid on her back, with Kaitlyn lying on top of her, stomach to stomach, so Kaitlyn could see her mother's face. Before Votova did any treatment, he'd have Murrell feel the area of Kaitlyn's back where he was going to adjust.

    "One side would be soft, the other hard. He'd massage it, and then have me feel it, and both sides were soft."

    After about six adjustments over about two weeks around Christmas, Murrell and Aylesworth noticed a marked difference in Kaitlyn. She regularly had bowel movements, was able to pass gas and was consolable when she cried.

    The theory is that spinal alignment is important to allow the body to do its job properly. An infant's back may be misaligned as a result of the actual birth process, or even from being picked up.

    "It can be a misalignment or sometimes it's not moving as well as it could be and just requires a little mobilization," said Votova, who has helped about 20 babies.
    What I find interesting, is that colics last the first 3 months and are usually gone by the fourth. This little girl is 41/2 months. Maybe it wasn't the treatment, but time that did the job?

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    Quote Originally Posted by myrosiedog
    Wonder if we should start a fibromyalgia support thread??? ANyone? Mods would that be ok???
    I know that I often have questions or just need insight or support. There are so many symptoms and I'm sure the majority of the FORT doesn't want to read about all this. I'm currently facing a problem that I wonder if it bothers the two of you. I'll PM you about it as its definetly not a general discussion problem.
    Here's a link to a list of fibromyalgia support group sites. There seems to be quite a few support groups out there that would probably be more helpful to you than a thread in a reality tv forum. I hope this helps.

    http://www.immunesupport.com/communi...upport%20Group

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    First off, I will start off by saying that I have never been to a chiropractor. However, I know several people who swear by them. My neighbours across the street fall into that category, going weekly etc.

    When they had their first child, who is now ten, they took her to the chiropractor when she was about a month old. When they told me, I asked why they would need to bring her in to see him. The mother replied that the chiropractor told them how the babies are all squished inside the uterus and what the infant's body goes through during delivery and how this helps straighten them out, eases a host of problems, colic, fussiness, etc., etc. When I asked her what her pediatrician said, she said that she never brought it up with her doctor.

    I still don't think I could let someone manipulate my month-old baby! And I would definitely take my pediatrician's advice into consideration. To me, at that time, it just seemed all too "new age". I mean none of my siblings, relatives, friends, etc. ever needed to be manipulated as infants and we all turned out alright....surviving childbirth and the first few months of life!

    Years later, on our local news, there was a story about a couple who brought their baby in to see a chiropractor. The result was that the baby's neck adjustment didn't go correctly and the baby either ended up paralyzed or actually died! At the moment, I can't remember what really happened. But what a nightmare those parents now must live with. And yes, there was a big debate about the need for such services on infants and the medical doctors definitely pooh-poohed the idea.

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    Babies have been being born for thousands of years and have done just fine without chiropractic care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myrosiedog;2194980;
    I'm so sorry to hear that there are 3 of us with this dreaded problem. It's NO fun as I'm sure you know.

    Wonder if we should start a fibromyalgia support thread??? ANyone? Mods would that be ok???
    I know that I often have questions or just need insight or support. There are so many symptoms and I'm sure the majority of the FORT doesn't want to read about all this. I'm currently facing a problem that I wonder if it bothers the two of you. I'll PM you about it as its definetly not a general discussion problem.
    I'm not a mod myrosiedog but I think it's a great idea!!! Since we know for sure there are 3 of us, there must be more out there.... go for it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MamaC;2195228;
    First off, I will start off by saying that I have never been to a chiropractor. However, I know several people who swear by them. My neighbours across the street fall into that category, going weekly etc.

    When they had their first child, who is now ten, they took her to the chiropractor when she was about a month old. When they told me, I asked why they would need to bring her in to see him. The mother replied that the chiropractor told them how the babies are all squished inside the uterus and what the infant's body goes through during delivery and how this helps straighten them out, eases a host of problems, colic, fussiness, etc., etc. When I asked her what her pediatrician said, she said that she never brought it up with her doctor.

    I still don't think I could let someone manipulate my month-old baby! And I would definitely take my pediatrician's advice into consideration. To me, at that time, it just seemed all too "new age". I mean none of my siblings, relatives, friends, etc. ever needed to be manipulated as infants and we all turned out alright....surviving childbirth and the first few months of life!

    Years later, on our local news, there was a story about a couple who brought their baby in to see a chiropractor. The result was that the baby's neck adjustment didn't go correctly and the baby either ended up paralyzed or actually died! At the moment, I can't remember what really happened. But what a nightmare those parents now must live with. And yes, there was a big debate about the need for such services on infants and the medical doctors definitely pooh-poohed the idea.
    Letting them crack my back is one thing but they need to keep their hands off the kid. I guess if you have faith in their ability to help, it will, but as I personally think it's bogus, I can't see that it would be any benefit to me. My husband went because he had a pinched nerve in his back. He was thoroughly disgusted with what little treatment he got, and the enormous(sp) cost. He went back to his regular doctor, who our insurance covers, and he is much better. there may be times when one is helped by them but this wasn't one of those times.

    By the way, isn't that glowing article from a Chiropractic magazine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vonna;2195354;
    I'm not a mod myrosiedog but I think it's a great idea!!! Since we know for sure there are 3 of us, there must be more out there.... go for it!
    I'm afraid that we have to say no to this. There are so many places on the internet where you can get medical support, it's just not appropriate for a reality television website. Just looking on Google I found this site. I'm sure you understand that we don't want General Discussion to be swamped with a variety of medical threads, and if we allow one, it wouldn't be right to deny any others.
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    I'm on the side of chiropractors and so is my family, for the only reason that they have solved problems without medication, quickly, as opposed to our experiences with regular MD.s and physiotherapists. You have to make sure you go to a licensed and certified one with experience. Same with accupuncturists. Don't go to a simple accupuncturist, even if he is a western M.D. GOoto a Medical Doctor of Traditional Chinese Medicine. They take 4 years of study and are considered doctors. You really have to have the experience to realize whether or not it works for you.

    As I said earlier, the chiropractor I know has always worked with pregnant moms and their babies and small children. Manipulations do not have to be hard, painful or loud in order to work. Like anything else, word-of-mouth referrals is what you want. Talk to current or previous patients. Do your homework.

    I saw a specialist chiropractor after a car accident. He was the only one who could manipulate the Atlas and Axis bones properly. I couldn't even tell he did anything he pressed so lightly with me lying at a particular angle. But he stopped the dizzies and nausea when no other doctor could. I've never had trouble since. And I got a pretty cool series of x-rays which proved the problem before he even began treatment.

    Just because your mom or grandmother never needed it doesn't mean it can't be beneficial. So many people will pop many strong pills which cause side effects without thought rather than even consider alternative medicine. Or a combination of both.

    I'd say have an open mind.
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    Excellent post misskitty. I've used acupuncture and Q-Ray bracelets and things like meditation and healing music CDs and reiki. We don't even begin to know the "facts" about how some things effect our bodies. Food, weather, cycles of the moon, other people's thoughts and prayers. Open mind, open heart.
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    MissKitty and Gutmutter, I agree with having an open mind. If you feel like your chiro, acupuncture and other alternative solutions help you, I encourage you to go. My husband went to a chiro for his neck problem, but it wasn't solved and I have been pushing him to try acupuncture because he has been suffering. What I don't feel comfortable with is sending a baby to a chiro.

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