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    Can you help me plan a trip to Vegas?

    I was in Las Vegas once. As a 6 year old, back in the 60's.

    I was not impressed.

    However, times change, people change, and apparently, Las Vegas has changed.

    I have 3 U.K. friends: two from London and one from Glasgow, that are planning to visit me in Chicago and they say they aren't leaving the States until they see Las Vegas.

    So, I've gone On-line and investigated Orbitz plans and other plans until my head is spinning and I'm no closer to finding out what to do then I was before I started my search.

    Any Las Vegas people on FORT or people who LOVE Las Vegas and can give me insight and tips?

    Here's my questions:

    1) NONE of the four of us gals gamble. Does that matter where we stay? For example, will a hotel kick you out if you don't gamble?

    2) Usually, when I travel, I stay at the best room that I can afford, usually a suite, with fire place, Jacuzzi and mini kitchen. But, would that be a waste in Las Vegas? Would we ever be IN our rooms? Should we book in some dump or older hotel, instead? (All I see is porn movies being shot in "old hotel rooms...ick!) (Not that I've ever seen any porn, mind you!)

    3) On all of the sites that I've visited, I can NOT LOCATE ANYWHERE if there is a "center" to Las Vegas, that once you got there, you could walk to all the spots you wanted to see.

    For instance, if someone wanted to come to Chicago and see it all, I'd have them book a hotel anywhere from Oak Street to Illinois Street, within a two block distance of Michigan Avenue. This way, they could walk, cab or bus to 100% of the museums, restaurants, shopping and Lake Michigan beaches.

    But, I can't find an Epicenter to Vegas.

    Is it THAT large? I've read in the newspaper that you aren't even IN Las Vegas when you go there, but in some suburb of the city and most tourists aren't even aware of the fact. We want to stay at a central location, if it exists, where we can see all the things that we see on TV: the pyramid building, the Eiffel Tower, the Bellagio Water Show, the "O" show from Cirque d' Solei (sp.)

    Does this exist?

    4) You can't go to New York and see the most popular Broadway plays because they're all sold out. I've also seen, also on TV, that the popular shows in Vegas are "all sold out." What does that leave for us to do? How far in advance do you have to book this stuff, and, if you've never been there, then how do you know what you want to see?

    5) Vegas buffets are legendary. Do they come WITH the room, or again, do you have to be a gambler to partake of them?

    6) Since we won't be going until January, February or March, is that even a decent time to be in Las Vegas? Is it cold? Is there snow? If all the fountains and cool things are shut down, it might be a bust of a trip.

    7) Do you fly into an airport (which one?) and do the hotels pick you up? Or, will we have to rent a car to get to the hotel and then just park it (at a huge expense) for the rest of the trip?

    8) How much time should we plan to see Las Vegas? You can 'do' Chicago's Lakefront in 10 days and come off with a grand trip; how long for Vegas?

    9) One of my friends dreams is to see Wayne Newton. I'm guessing he still performs there, so how do we get tickets?

    10) You know that famous Vegas sign that has become the symbol of Las Vegas? Where is it and is it in a decent part of town?

    I feel like such a 'stupe' for not knowing how to do this! I can plan trips to anywhere else in the U.S. and Europe, but I can't do this place. Oy!

    I'm sure that I'll be thinking of other questions, but my friends are bugging me to start this thing and I've found out that it's beyond my experience to start the ball rolling.

    So, I'm relying on YOU guys to help me.....please!
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    I don't have a lot of information, but all the major hotel/casinos are pretty much on one strip of road. I'm heading there in a couple weeks for a business convention - we have the meeting and stay in Caesar's Palace, which is a good starting spot.

    good site for checking out the main places is www.vegas.com I found lots of information about the hotels, shows, air travel. etc on it. There is a whole lot to do without gambling. The shows, stores and just general atmosphere of the place is amazing.

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    Thanks for the link, mkwdood. That's one of the sites that I've already visited that confuzzled my brain.

    I have a close friend that gambles and booked a trip to Vegas last year for 4 days, through a travel agent. She booked them into Circus/Circus and my friend HATED it! <
    What I can't decide, when I visit these sites, is, "Why are some hotel rooms $29.99 and others $129.99?" I know that should be obvious, but with a tourist place like Vegas or the Wisconsin Dells, is the huge price difference ONLY because one hotel is 30 years old and another 2 years old?

    I'll wait until you come back to get more feedback from you, but thanks for your post.
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    if you are on the STRIP, the rooms are probably higher. Off the strip, but still considered Vegas Hotels, lower. I've only stayed at Caesars, and the rooms there are $150 and up. But it is basically in the 'life center' of Vegas. The Bellagio / Rio / etc are also up there, I think.
    Most of the major hotels have their own web sites also.

    you can also find very seedy places there - cheap, and a reason to be.
    That's just my opinion. Last year was my first time there, this year we are actually going to a show and fancy restaurant.

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    [QUOTE=lambikins]I was in Las Vegas once. As a 6 year old, back in the 60's.

    I was not impressed.

    However, times change, people change, and apparently, Las Vegas has changed.

    I have 3 U.K. friends: two from London and one from Glasgow, that are planning to visit me in Chicago and they say they aren't leaving the States until they see Las Vegas.

    So, I've gone On-line and investigated Orbitz plans and other plans until my head is spinning and I'm no closer to finding out what to do then I was before I started my search.

    Any Las Vegas people on FORT or people who LOVE Las Vegas and can give me insight and tips?

    Here's my questions:

    1) NONE of the four of us gals gamble. Does that matter where we stay? For example, will a hotel kick you out if you don't gamble?

    2) Usually, when I travel, I stay at the best room that I can afford, usually a suite, with fire place, Jacuzzi and mini kitchen. But, would that be a waste in Las Vegas? Would we ever be IN our rooms? Should we book in some dump or older hotel, instead? (All I see is porn movies being shot in "old hotel rooms...ick!) (Not that I've ever seen any porn, mind you!)

    3) On all of the sites that I've visited, I can NOT LOCATE ANYWHERE if there is a "center" to Las Vegas, that once you got there, you could walk to all the spots you wanted to see.

    For instance, if someone wanted to come to Chicago and see it all, I'd have them book a hotel anywhere from Oak Street to Illinois Street, within a two block distance of Michigan Avenue. This way, they could walk, cab or bus to 100% of the museums, restaurants, shopping and Lake Michigan beaches.

    But, I can't find an Epicenter to Vegas.

    Is it THAT large? I've read in the newspaper that you aren't even IN Las Vegas when you go there, but in some suburb of the city and most tourists aren't even aware of the fact. We want to stay at a central location, if it exists, where we can see all the things that we see on TV: the pyramid building, the Eiffel Tower, the Bellagio Water Show, the "O" show from Cirque d' Solei (sp.)

    Does this exist?

    4) You can't go to New York and see the most popular Broadway plays because they're all sold out. I've also seen, also on TV, that the popular shows in Vegas are "all sold out." What does that leave for us to do? How far in advance do you have to book this stuff, and, if you've never been there, then how do you know what you want to see?

    5) Vegas buffets are legendary. Do they come WITH the room, or again, do you have to be a gambler to partake of them?

    6) Since we won't be going until January, February or March, is that even a decent time to be in Las Vegas? Is it cold? Is there snow? If all the fountains and cool things are shut down, it might be a bust of a trip.

    7) Do you fly into an airport (which one?) and do the hotels pick you up? Or, will we have to rent a car to get to the hotel and then just park it (at a huge expense) for the rest of the trip?

    8) How much time should we plan to see Las Vegas? You can 'do' Chicago's Lakefront in 10 days and come off with a grand trip; how long for Vegas?

    9) One of my friends dreams is to see Wayne Newton. I'm guessing he still performs there, so how do we get tickets?

    10) You know that famous Vegas sign that has become the symbol of Las Vegas? Where is it and is it in a decent part of town?

    I live in Vegas so I'll try to answer some of your questions.....

    l. No, you don't have to gamble and no, they won't kick you out of the hotel if you're not gambling

    2. The type of room you get is really up to what you feel most comfortable with - I'm sure you'll spend a lot of time out of the room but still if a jacuzzi, suite etc. make you happy then that's what you should get.....try going online directly to the casino's website - you can get rooms cheaper than from a service such as travelocity, orbitz etc. as the hotels pay them a commission and will usually offer a cheaper internet rate direct. A very nice hotel , right off the strip , on Tropicana is called the Orleans....the room is suite-like but not called a suite......it's not 2 separate rooms but the room is very spacious and does offer a sitting area with couch/chair/coffee table....and good security at elevators day/night..... It would be possible to walk to the strip if you are used to walking a bit but if not there are cabs galore and it's a very quick shot from the Orleans to the corner of Trop/Las Vegas Blvd. (Strip). One place that does offer suites is the Rio - it's an 'all-suite' hotel - I've never seen the rooms but have heard it's a very nice place to stay - they have ongoing shows that are in the air above the gaming floor and it's pretty cool......and free to see!

    4 - Again, the best way to decide on a show is to get to different websites - they will list the show and usually a description and many even have online ordering so you can order tickets before you even get there.

    5. Buffets usually don't come with the room - some on the strip, such as Bellagio, Paris, Mirage are quite pricy and other's are more affordable and usually just as good if not better.......when you get to Vegas look in the hotel lobby for a magazine (can't remember the name) they are usually in a magazine rack and they are free - sometimes you can find coupons and in most it will list the different buffets, prices and description of food items available.....Many say the Rio has the best buffet but then again many say it's riding on past reputation and not nearly as good as it used to be........ You don't have to be a gambler to eat at the buffet - just be prepared to pay anywhere from 10.95 and up - they're not as cheap as they used to be

    6. Ideally October/Nov. are the nicest times of the year (best weather) but January/February usually isn't extremely cold (unless you're coming from someplace that gets even hotter than Vegas in the summer LOL). For the most part you will probably need a sweater/light jacket in the morning - by noon when the sun is up you can remove the sweater/jacket and maybe by evening put it back on......not what you'd call swimming pool weather but certainly nothing like back East.......it's the weather we, who suffer thru the hot summers, wait all year for.......

    7. The airport is called McCarran......depending on where you're staying they may have shuttle service to pick you up or take the 'limo' service which is usually a flat rate per person and much cheaper than a taxi. I wouldn't bother renting a car as most everything is within walking distance of the strip and hopefully the new monorail will be running so that will get you from one end of the Strip to the other......also taxi's are an option.. if you want to see sights like Hoover Dam, Red Rock there are many bus tours that will pick you up right at the hotel.

    8. It's hard to say how much time to spend - if you're going to do a lot of sight-seeing and want to see the insides of all the new mega-resorts like the Venetian, Paris, Bellagio, Mirage, Caesars Palace - there's a lot of sights and shopping so if might be wise to stay a week.....but if you're not too much into that stuff 4-5 days might be enough- esp. if you don't gamble....a week is nice because then you can sight-see in leisure and not feel you need to 'rush' to see everything before you leave. The Aladdin has a nice shopping facility and they have an indoor 'thunderstorm' that's pretty cool.....Venetian has Gondola rides (pricy).....New York, New York is cute with cobble-stone streets/ sewers with steam rising out and miniature replications of old-time buildings like a Chinese Laundry......all very nice to see......Mirage has a beautiful Tropical Forest theme at the entrance..........Bellagio has a conservatory and the flowers are changed out to match the season - January will probably still looking kinda Christmasy so it should be very pretty..

    9. Wayne Newton performs at the Stardust Hotel/Casino and you can contact them thru their website.......I understand his tickets are very reasonable.........Unless you like being swamped with kids (Vegas, not a place for kids IMHO) avoid places like Circus-Circus, Excalibur - both are OLD, and DIRTY

    10. The sign is at the far South End of the strip - not a bad part of town if you're just driving down the strip to see the sign - there's really nothing much else there to see so you probably won't be walking.....it's too far to walk to.......

    Hope this helps.......

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    azsk8fan:

    Now, THIS info is what I'm talking about! What a nice treat, to wake up and find this detailed, first-hand knowledge! My comments are in BOLD, attached to yours.

    I live in Vegas so I'll try to answer some of your questions.....

    l. No, you don't have to gamble and no, they won't kick you out of the hotel if you're not gambling. This is good news! We'd rather spend 'gambling monies' on a nicer room and souvenirs.

    2. The type of room you get is really up to what you feel most comfortable with - I'm sure you'll spend a lot of time out of the room but still if a jacuzzi, suite etc. make you happy then that's what you should get.....try going on-line directly to the casino's website - you can get rooms cheaper than from a service such as travelocity, orbitz etc. as the hotels pay them a commission and will usually offer a cheaper Internet rate direct.<I think this ONE piece of information is the most valuable thing that you could have given me! When I've planned extensive trips to other places, I've had a working knowledge of that city and while there for the first time, I'm "taking names and kicking ass." That's what has been so frustrating over planning this trip; I haven't been to Vegas as an adult and all the Websites that I've been to were filled with useless information. NONE of them showed where they were, I couldn't tell if there was a 'strip/boulevard/promenade or any other type of central location. Out of frustration, I found a site (finally) last night, that had a map with 100% of the hotels listed along a street map...yahoo! NOW, I can tell that Circus/Circus and the Sahara are too far North for us and it looks like the Epicenter is Las Vegas Blvd. and Flamingo Road.

    A very nice hotel , right off the strip , on Tropicana is called the Orleans....the room is suite-like but not called a suite......it's not 2 separate rooms but the room is very spacious and does offer a sitting area with couch/chair/coffee table....and good security at elevators day/night..... It would be possible to walk to the strip if you are used to walking a bit but if not there are cabs galore and it's a very quick shot from the Orleans to the corner of Trop/Las Vegas Blvd. (Strip). One place that does offer suites is the Rio - it's an 'all-suite' hotel - I've never seen the rooms but have heard it's a very nice place to stay - they have ongoing shows that are in the air above the gaming floor and it's pretty cool......and free to see! My map listed the Orleans; it seems to be in that highly desirable district that I want. I also like the way that you describe the rooms. I'll check out both that place and the Rio, which I've never heard of.

    4 - Again, the best way to decide on a show is to get to different websites - they will list the show and usually a description and many even have on-line ordering so you can order tickets before you even get there. The site that had the maps, also had tickets to order for shows.

    5. Buffets usually don't come with the room - some on the strip, such as Bellagio, Paris, Mirage are quite pricey and other's are more affordable and usually just as good if not better.......when you get to Vegas look in the hotel lobby for a magazine (can't remember the name) they are usually in a magazine rack and they are free - sometimes you can find coupons and in most it will list the different buffets, prices and description of food items available.....Many say the Rio has the best buffet but then again many say it's riding on past reputation and not nearly as good as it used to be........ You don't have to be a gambler to eat at the buffet - just be prepared to pay anywhere from 10.95 and up - they're not as cheap as they used to be
    Again....GREAT information ^above!

    6. Ideally October/Nov. are the nicest times of the year (best weather) but January/February usually isn't extremely cold (unless you're coming from someplace that gets even hotter than Vegas in the summer LOL). For the most part you will probably need a sweater/light jacket in the morning - by noon when the sun is up you can remove the sweater/jacket and maybe by evening put it back on......not what you'd call swimming pool weather but certainly nothing like back East.......it's the weather we, who suffer thru the hot summers, wait all year for....... My partner and I will be traveling from the Wind Chill capital of Chicago and my friends from the U.K., so any temperatures ABOVE 40 degrees will be welcome!

    It may be as late as March that we go to Vegas: is that 'spring' for you? Is it nice?


    7. The airport is called McCarran......depending on where you're staying they may have shuttle service to pick you up or take the 'limo' service which is usually a flat rate per person and much cheaper than a taxi. I wouldn't bother renting a car as most everything is within walking distance of the strip and hopefully the new monorail will be running so that will get you from one end of the Strip to the other......also taxi's are an option.. if you want to see sights like Hoover Dam, Red Rock there are many bus tours that will pick you up right at the hotel. IBID with the great, great advice, concerning the shuttle/limo

    8. It's hard to say how much time to spend - if you're going to do a lot of sight-seeing and want to see the insides of all the new mega-resorts like the Venetian, Paris, Bellagio, Mirage, Caesars Palace - there's a lot of sights and shopping so if might be wise to stay a week.....but if you're not too much into that stuff 4-5 days might be enough- esp. if you don't gamble....a week is nice because then you can sight-see in leisure and not feel you need to 'rush' to see everything before you leave. The Aladdin has a nice shopping facility and they have an indoor 'thunderstorm' that's pretty cool.....Venetian has Gondola rides (pricey).....New York, New York is cute with cobble-stone streets/ sewers with steam rising out and miniature replications of old-time buildings like a Chinese Laundry......all very nice to see......Mirage has a beautiful Tropical Forest theme at the entrance..........Bellagio has a conservatory and the flowers are changed out to match the season - January will probably still looking kinda Christmasy so it should be very pretty.. Just reading your comments above...I'm ready to hop on a plane...NOW! I appreciate the first hand comments! Since my friends are flying 6000 miles to see Vegas, we'll probably spend at least 7 days there.

    9. Wayne Newton performs at the Stardust Hotel/Casino and you can contact them thru their website.......I understand his tickets are very reasonable.........Unless you like being swamped with kids (Vegas, not a place for kids IMHO) avoid places like Circus-Circus, Excalibur - both are OLD, and DIRTY. [b]
    10. The sign is at the far South End of the strip - not a bad part of town if you're just driving down the strip to see the sign - there's really nothing much else there to see so you probably won't be walking.....it's too far to walk to.......THIS is going to be a "must see" for all of us. All of my friends and I love the TV shows C.S.I. and VEGAS, and since that sign features prominently on the shows, I know that we'll be total geeks with wanting to have our pictures taken in front of it. Thanks for letting me know where it is!

    QUESTION: When I printed the maps of Vegas out, they had the "Las Vegas Strip", and "Downtown Vegas". What's IN downtown Vegas? It looks like it's only 4 blocks big (Charlestown Blvd. to Stewart Ave) and the name "Fremont Street" keeps coming up again and again regarding Vegas. What's on Fremont Street that's worth seeing?

    Also, is it "safe" to be out, late at night, in Vegas? I know that you'll be laughing over that question, as you'll probably say, "Good grief! That's when EVERYONE IS out, in Vegas!" All of us are "city girls" (London and Chicago), so we know how to hold our own, but, still, should we take extra precautions?

    Hope this helps.......You have NO idea how much THIS helps!!! I finally feel like I've got some kind of 'handle' on this trip! Plus, I've given a link to this thread to my U.K. friends so that they can print it out and if they have any more questions, they can forward them to me and I can post them.

    Bless you,AZSK8FAN, for taking the time with all this first-hand information! If you ever need personal info on Chicago, London or Scotland, let me know and I'll gladly give you the 411!



    ***Other posters from FORT: please don't STOP giving me info! The more, the merrier and the better trip that I'll be able to create for my friends! Have any of you seen Wayne Newton or any of the Cirque d' Soleii shows? Any strange, off-beat areas that you recommend? What about the helicopter rides over Vegas...good or not? And the trips to the Grand Canyon and Hoover Dam...would my U.K. friends be impressed or not? Please add anything that you can....THANKS IN ADVANCE!*******
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    Lamby, AZSK gave you awesome info! ANother great place to stay ( I just stayed there with 8 girlfriends) is THE HOTEL at Mandalay Bay Hotel. Just go to the website and you can book a room. They are suites and each have a plasma tv, jacuzzi and plasma tv in the bathroom! The whole place is very swanky and art deco-y. Loved it. Very Adult vibe. And besides the pools at Mandalay Bay are pretty neat themselves. Mandalay Bay also has the Shark Experiance which is pretty neat as well.
    Cesears Palace has great suites. The Jacuzzi suites are really nice. And Ceasars is centrally located.
    About resturants there are soooo many great places to eat...so you can do buffet or 4 star resturant...its up to you!
    As far as shows Ive never had too much trouble getting tickets but some web sites have listings of acts that will be happening. I was lucky once to get Wayne Brady tickets...it was one of the funniest shows Ive ever seen.
    Good Luck!!! Pm if you got any more questions! ( I go to Vegas alot)
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    I have been to Vegas many times, always been underage so I guess I can help since you don't like to gamble.

    Best hotels IMO are: Venetian, Bellagio, Mandalay Bay and Paris.

    Best Buffet: Hands down the Rio, amazing selection and oh so good.

    Centered Hotels: Bellagio, Paris, Aladdin

    For the car: I say take a cab from the Airport to your hotel, but DO NOT let the cab driver know you are not familiar with Vegas. He will take the long way to your hotel. There is one road that takes you to the back of most hotels that is less busy, less lights and saves you time and money. Most of the strip you can walk, but if you want to see the old strip or other parts of Vegas I say rent a car for a day and do all that.

    For other things check: www.lasvegas.com and go to "deals" some decent stuff there. But I haven't planned a big trip before so I don't know where else you can get deals. Hopefully that help a tiny bit, best of luck and have fun.

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    You guys are the BEST!!!

    I was so stressed and depressed over planning this trip; I don't do well AT ALL with conceptualizing things 'abstractly' over the Internet. I'm an immersion-type person that has to experience it first hand and then I can plan.

    So, all of your advice brings me peace!

    What I'm really, really liking is the multiple posts that are recommending the same places: Bellagio, Mandalay Bay, etc.

    And my friends and I LOVE to eat, so I know that the buffets/restaurants will be important.

    One poster that PM'd me suggested that you book "on-line", directly with the hotel themselves, saying that Agencies, upped the price to pay for their service.

    Would you guys agree?

    I've gotten responses back from all three friends; I linked them to this page, and we are all "feeling the luurve!"

    If anyone else wants to chime in and share their experiences, the more the merrier!

    And thanks again, to all of you FORT posters, for taking time on a Sunday to answer my questions! Smoochies to you all!
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    If you are walking around and doing the strip I say go Bellagio or Paris because its more center than Mandalay Bay.

    If you book on-line make sure you have the confirmation number with you when you arrive. And when you check in slip them some extra cash and ask if your room can be upgraded. We got a suite in the Paris for no extra charge and they told us we could do that next time. If they have one available they will hook you up.

    For food, besides the Rio buffet, go to New York New York and try their pizza place. It is so good. I went to another buffet that was really good but can't remember what it was...Paris was good, Luxor is good but one other is up there with Rio. Once I remember it I will tell you.

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