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    Thanks burntbrat; and kat
    I don't have a history of missing work, asking for painkiller or anything else. I don't know why this office has thier policy, but I may well let them administer the MRI and then go to a different orthopaedist if they just won't help. I'm going to go Monday to my regular doc who I have been seeing for some years, and hopefully he will excuse me till the next appointment at least.

    This isn't a peeve thread, but I gotta say I hate these doctor's office, real estate, bank, you name it office personnel whio seem to think they own the place and that the patient/customer is just an irritation to deal with.
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    Queenie, I feel terrible to hear you're in such pain and having to be at the mercy of our medical system - simply put, our medical system stinks. I don't want to discourage you, but prepare you for the fight. I know you and know that you're not about to let anyone walk all over you, so stay strong and if you need someone to talk to, pm me. I hope you get results quickly, and that you get that doctor's excuse ASAP. When I began my nightmare, we had our own business, and I was able to work from home, propped in bed so I didn't have to deal with the work thing. With your physical job, not excusing you seems beyond cruel. I've had three cervical fusions with three titanium plates in my neck and I still have unresolved problems. The spine it seems is a tricky, hard-to-diagnose part of the body. MRI's are helpful as are nerve conduction tests (done by neurologists). Depending on how comfortable you are with your doctor after your MRI diagnosis, and if it seems you're going to be a complicated case, make sure you ask everyone you know for referrals for a spine specialist and/or neurologist. I spent months with an orthopaedist, until he finally moved me onto a spine specialist who eventually had a spine-specific radiologist read my MRI's and myelograms. My injury was difficult to diagnose, and further complicated by degenerative disc disease, and I've been frustrated at how slowly the medical wheels move.

    I wish you well and will leave you with this final thought. Stay strong, demand answers and take copious notes about every appointment, every drug you try, every test you take. I have Excel spreadsheets with years' worth of information, and it's been extremely helpful. Hang in there, Queenie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by queenb;2368884;
    Kat, you're going to hate this suggestion, but I've found that not having a tv on my last couple of hours, and no music either, helps. I just read with a small lamp, and it puts me in a sleepy mood. I know I'm ready when I have to read the last couple of pages twice!

    Actually, I'm here to whine, and I need some suggestions. I've been developing pain in my hip and leg over the past couple of months that finally got to the point where I couldn't make it in to work. I got a cortisone shot, muscle relaxer, etc. three weeks ago and was 'fair' for a few days, and I was working, but by the end of that week I was worse than before. So, I went to the orthopadeic office, where they have scheduled me for an MRI-- May 9th. (I went to the office April 30) and I see the doctor again on May 14. The initial x-ray does show a disc in my lower back that appears nearly gone, so I would think that they could tell I really do have this pain.
    This whole time, I've still been in bad pain, and my job is heavy at times and requires lots of walking and steps at best. So, I'm using up the remainder of my earned time off this week to stay home.
    So, here's the problem--the orthopaedist's office will not write me an excuse for work! They reluctantly wrote one for me to have limited duty, but due to the nature of my occupation my company does not allow people in my department to work less than full duty. I tried explaining this, but they said that it's up to my job to take me out of work in that case. My boss says he is not allowed to let me come in on part duty, and yet I am not excused unless the doctor lets me return on full duty. (Yes, I work for a big huge company whose policies are set in stone) Asking the doc to return me on full duty is kind of stupid, as I generally have a couple of hours a day where I can barely walk get up and down, or anything and sitting, standing, even lying diown all hurt like hell. The rest of the time, I'm not sure I can move fast enough to perform my job correctly.
    The orthopaedic clinic says they "might' write an excuse for me after they read the MRI, but that will be a week from now, and I couldn't get it any earlier no matter what.
    Does anyone here work in the medical field have any idea what I could possibly do to get these people to listen to me? I understand that lots of people use back pain as an excuse to get out of work--but I'm not doing that.
    I'm about to worry myself to death as well as being horribly uncomfortable, and bored as well. I can't even stand to sit in my computer chair for more than a few minutes, most times, so that my slow typing self has had to get up and move around and self massage three times just to make this post!
    Sorry for the long whine

    I'd write them a very professional letter, outlining what you have just told us. What your company requires, EXACTLY what your work includes and that there is no such thing as light duty. That you realize many people use this excuse, but that you have an exemplary record at work and now that you need an excuse and are unable to work, the doctor is jeopardizing your job and your good record by not providing one.

    I've written many a doctor letter because of the way they treat me in the office and I've gotten good results too after writing to them. I find that sometimes they don't listen in the office, but will often "hear" more in a written letter.

    Good luck and I hope you are better soon. I know that's got to hurt. I've had sciatica and that hurts like the dickens. Have you tried using a cane to help take some of the pressure off the one leg? I know, I hated using one as well, but man, it really helped. Maybe you can get one with flames on it like Dr. House!
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    Thanks for the encouraging words!
    I really must learn to type my longer posts on "Notepad"; once more I managed to kill one before I clicked the post button.
    It's always great to have my FORT buddies to whine to when I'm frustrated, aggravated, or sad.
    I think I will try typing up a letter, MRD, as I'm much more coherent on paper than in person.
    I'm crossing my fingers that when I get to talk to the doctor again, I can straighten this out. When I went last week, I stupidly thought I would be able to get the MRI and follow up within a few days (I'm blaming my naivity on the pain!) so I'd still have sick days left and could get paperwork for any further time off then. Dumb, dumb, dumb! When I found out that was not the case, I had to go back and try to get the receptionists to help me, and I don't even know if they properly relayed my message to the doc.
    I'm going to my family doctor Monday and hopefully can get a not to cover till I see the orthopedic again, or if not maybe another big cortisone shot and an extra dose of pain killer to help me crawl through a work week.

    Roseskid, I am encouraged that you had such a scary surgery and yet seem to be doing so well. The very idea helps a lot, when this thing seems so debilitating!
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    11sstepph---maybe you could focus more on shapes which your friend could surely do...or maybe you could make him and other color blind students (unless your school is very small I'm sure there are other guys who are) an important part of the study---do their results differ from other students who are more influenced by color? But do realize there are all kinds of levels of colorblindness, you'd have to get one of those color blindness tests to give all your subjects if you were going to make that a variable. Often "colorblind" people do seem some colors, and even the colors they "don't" see are actually colors to them, just not the ones most people see. Or, since you aren't probably going to survey every student in the school, you could just leave him out w/o saying why.
    As was mentioned above this kind of thing has been studied for a while, but maybe not specifically in the context of stained glass which is a kind of unique aesthetic, so you might be the first person to look at it in this context, or one of the first, which would be fun.
    katgib13--it sounds to me as if your problem is your husband, not your lack of sleep. You don't say you are falling asleep during the day or anything or even feeling tired. Some people need far less sleep than others, and sometimes it changes at different times in your life. As long as the change isn't due to a medical problem (e.g., symptom of tumor or something, just to give you something else to lie awake worrying about ), and you could ask your doctor about that, then I'd just make use of those free hours to do stuff you don't have time for in the daytime--learn French, polish the silver, read the books you don't otherwise get to, whatever. My S.O.'s mom would stay up til 4am washing the kitchen floor and still be up way before us in the am when we visited them. I gave up trying to keep up or "share" her work when I realized that 3-4 hours of sleep was her norm and had been for years, even on weekends. Now she's in her 90's and finally sleeping more than 8 hours a night, but it took most of her 90 years for that to happen. FYI, I've read very smart people often need very little sleep! Of course so do bipolar people in the manic phase, and since you did mention treatment for depression you might want to ask your doctor about that.
    In the meantime, try to figure out ways to sneak into bed, or get your husband used to you reading in bed while he sleeps so he doesn't feel lonely. At the moment he's the problem, not you!

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    I've read very smart people often need very little sleep!
    I get 23 hours of sleep every night

    Actually, I fall asleep easily, and stay asleep, but it doesn't seem to be quality sleep. I blame self-diagnosed sleep apnea, but until I get health insurance some day in the unforeseen future and can find out what's really going on, I'll continue to crave day-time naps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PWS;2370344
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    katgib13[/B]--it sounds to me as if your problem is your husband, not your lack of sleep. You don't say you are falling asleep during the day or anything or even feeling tired. Some people need far less sleep than others, and sometimes it changes at different times in your life. As long as the change isn't due to a medical problem (e.g., symptom of tumor or something, just to give you something else to lie awake worrying about ), and you could ask your doctor about that, then I'd just make use of those free hours to do stuff you don't have time for in the daytime--learn French, polish the silver, read the books you don't otherwise get to, whatever. My S.O.'s mom would stay up til 4am washing the kitchen floor and still be up way before us in the am when we visited them. I gave up trying to keep up or "share" her work when I realized that 3-4 hours of sleep was her norm and had been for years, even on weekends. Now she's in her 90's and finally sleeping more than 8 hours a night, but it took most of her 90 years for that to happen. FYI, I've read very smart people often need very little sleep! Of course so do bipolar people in the manic phase, and since you did mention treatment for depression you might want to ask your doctor about that.
    In the meantime, try to figure out ways to sneak into bed, or get your husband used to you reading in bed while he sleeps so he doesn't feel lonely. At the moment he's the problem, not you!
    My mother is a manic depressive alcoholic with bi-polar.... She is not an easy woman to love...but I have discussed that with my Doctor and he says there isn't anything manic about me. I just suffer from the run of the mill depression. It's not constant, either. The last time I needed meds was 4 years ago. I do believe I am a person who doesn't need much sleep to function. Once in awhile, I will take a nap during the day, but that doesn't happen often. I just think I need a little more sleep than I'm getting.

    I don't know about being really smart....I'm not going to be asked to join Mensa anytime soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by katgib13;2370621;
    My mother is a manic depressive alcoholic with bi-polar.... She is not an easy woman to love...but I have discussed that with my Doctor and he says there isn't anything manic about me. I just suffer from the run of the mill depression. It's not constant, either. The last time I needed meds was 4 years ago. I do believe I am a person who doesn't need much sleep to function. Once in awhile, I will take a nap during the day, but that doesn't happen often. I just think I need a little more sleep than I'm getting.

    I don't know about being really smart....I'm not going to be asked to join Mensa anytime soon
    You're smart enough to know what mensa is!

    there is a form of bi-polar called "hypo mania". It does not exhibit in the way that classic bi-polar exhibits. "hypo mania" sufferers, typically do not sleep, but are NOT engaged in forms of destructive behavior that usually goes along wtih bi-polar. Typically if you clean when you have a lot of energy or get a lot of stuff done that maybe most days you wouldn't do, you could have hypo mania. After YEARS of being treated wtih depression, I got a diagnosis of hypomania and was STUNNED. I just thought I got into these cleaning bursts. But when the cleaning bursts start, the sleeping stops. I was very upset and insisted I was NOT bi-polar and my doctor said I'm not. I have periods of this "Hypo mania" which is not dangerous, doesn't lead to problems and that if it got to be a problem, I could be treated for it. I need to go through a hypermania cycle soon as I've got some big cleaning to do.
    But I'd ask about it.
    Or, you could just require little sleep.
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    Trust me when I say I do not have bursts where I want to clean...

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    Quote Originally Posted by katgib13;2370621;
    My mother is a manic depressive alcoholic with bi-polar.... She is not an easy woman to love...
    This is my mother to a T. She is on medication but it clearly doesn't work. And she is one of those who gets the bursts of energy to clean. I haven't been close to her for many years as she can't hold a conversation without delving into the past about her marriage to my father, or her current relationship (which several family members told her not to get involved with), and she will start crying at the drop of a hat and begin the woe is me stuff. I've gotten hard on her over the years and tell her I'll have to end the call when she gets that way. I can't deal with it. My sister is just like her but she is on drugs. My brother lives far away and I never see him but he suffers depression as well. I have small bouts but have never sought professional help or used medication. I think having a husband who keeps me grounded helps tremendously. I know mind over matter doesn't work with the severly depressed and they do need medical intervention but I've always been able to snap myself out of a funk. Until my mother calls

    ETA: I suffer from insomnia but I do not have the burst of energy to clean! I usually watch tv, come to the computer for a bit, or do a little reading to get back to sleep. Sometimes I'll take a nap during the day but not often. My husband can sleep through anything and doesn't mind if I'm up and down all night, as he's busy snoring.
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