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    Re: The Oasis - A spot for FORT parents

    Quote Originally Posted by myrosiedog;3747644;
    A friend of mine's daughter visited us last year and flew alone. I was allowed to go through security and wait at the gate when she got off the plane and I went through security and put her on the plane and watched it fly away. She was never alone during any part of it. I had to show ID and her mother had to make arrangements and pay extra for the unaccompanied minor.
    I've seen that too, MRD. I've saw the TSA allow one adult to escort the minor to the gate - but I don't know what happens after that, since I haven't been at the gate where the child is. Do you know what the airlines offer in the way of supervision?

    When my (now) ex and I were separated, but still speaking, he was traveling between Utah and DC every couple of weeks. There was a couple who were sending their daughter (5 or 6 years old, I believe) across the country. My ex offered to sit with her and keep her entertained for the whole flight. He was so excited to tell me about it when he got home. I couldn't believe some parents would "give" their little girl to some guy in the airport! I yelled at him the whole ride home. I'm sure he wouldn't harm the little girl, but in this case, appearances [I]are[I] everything. He could have completely ruined at least two lives with that stupid decision and one stupid comment. I sure hope the airlines have a handle on these types of situations now.

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    When the child went home, there was a flight delay and we sat at the gate for almost SEVEN hours. When they finally called the flight, they called her first and I walked her to the jetway entrance where a flight attendent had paperwork for the child, took her from me and escorted her into the plane. They get them settled, seat belt on, etc. When I picked her up, I had to check in with the worker at the gate and they brought her off first, had me sign the paperwork, show my ID before handing her over to me. She was accompanied for most of it. The flight attendents can't be with them every second, but she said they checked on her a lot.
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    I remember a couple of years ago at Dulles a mother was there to put her son on a plane. The boy was about 11 or 12 years old. The mother had accidentally left her ID at home. The kid did NOT get on that plane. Security, for all that it is not, seems to be very careful with children flying alone these days. And that is a good thing.

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    Originally Posted By sweet_lady
    That's how I feel. I would not feel comfortable putting them on a plane until they are teens. I would never forgive myself if something happened to one of them on the plane, or somehow got lost after getting off the flight. This is just one thing I'm gonna have to fight to make sure he's the one that has to come here and visit them, or he flys out here to pick them up and bring them back (which will get really expensive).
    I have to agree with you sweet lady. There are far too many things that can go wrong, IMO. How many stories do we hear of bus drivers forgetting a child on the bus. No disrespect to bus drivers, its just an example. When there are 200 -300 people on a flight, attendants are busy, any lunatic can persuade children travelling alone. I would never allow it, until at least 16 yrs old and even then they would have to be a mature 16 yr old. Sorry ex husband. That is a very tough situation. Its bad enough trying to make arrangements when we are in the same city. Depending on the reason he might be moving across country, (job? g/f?) I would think he would reconsider for the sake of the kids.

    A friend of mine is sort of going through the same thing. She is separated, two small children, 1 1/2 yrs old and 3 yr old. They have always lived in the area, born and raised. He has met a girl that lives 7-8 hr drive away, small town way up north, and moved there. Every other weekend, my friend packs up the kids, and drives 4 hours on Friday, and again on Sunday, meets him half way. She has been doing this since May/09, is exhausted, and still has not gone through a winter, we get very harsh winters around here. Its not fun, especially for the kids, they are the ones in the car for 8 hours, one way.

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    Re: The Oasis - A spot for FORT parents

    Well, my kids travelled quite a lot, and the rules are very strict. They must have their ID and documents in a pouch around their neck, and the flight attendants are with them the entire way up until they hand them off to the people receiving them on the other end, who must show ID. I always made sure the flights were non-stop, until that was no longer possible and they had to change planes in DFW, but they were 14 at that point. They had cell phones and always checked in, between flights.

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    Re: The Oasis - A spot for FORT parents

    Quote Originally Posted by canuckinchile;3751390;
    Well, my kids travelled quite a lot, and the rules are very strict. They must have their ID and documents in a pouch around their neck, and the flight attendants are with them the entire way up until they hand them off to the people receiving them on the other end, who must show ID. I always made sure the flights were non-stop, until that was no longer possible and they had to change planes in DFW, but they were 14 at that point. They had cell phones and always checked in, between flights.
    I suppose its harder on the parents than it is on the kids. They are probably very knowledgable travellers because of it, which is a good thing!

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    They are very knowledgable travelers, speak 3 languages, and now ferry their grandmother through customs and immigration and she is thankful they can understand whatever is being said

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    Well I got him to agree to him always coming to see the kids here in Cali. He's not allowed to take them out of Cali without my permission. He pays for his own airfare and hotel stay. But what got me today when I was talking to him was that he doesn't actually intend to stick with the visitation schedule (1 weekend a month, 2 wks in summer (6wks once they are both school age), alternating major holidays (christmas, thanksgiving, 4th of july, memorial day wkd, labor day wkd, spring breaks)). He says its really just between us. When I asked him why he said because of the cost. Then I asked him why then is he moving to Texas then, his response "because that's where my girlfriend lives." Thats when I had to get up and leave IHOP because I wanted to go off on his a$$ right then and there, but not before telling him that my kids aren't allowed around her. He tells me but you don't even know her, I said she's not the type of person I want to know. Women who get involved with married men aren't the type of people I want my kids to know. And yes she knew he was married. So he really only plans to see his 2 boys, age 3 and 19mos maybe once a year. Right now as it stands he's agreed to me having sole physical custody and joint legal custody. But if he's only gonna see his kids once a year, if that. I'm gonna go back to court in a couple of years and ask for sole legal custody as well. I will be making sure I document all missed visitations. And from my mediation orentation meeting the other day, I know if I don't have anything nice to say about him don't say anything at all (that's exactly what I plan to do, not say anything at all).

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    Re: The Oasis - A spot for FORT parents

    Sweet lady, that is too bad. I'm so sorry your kids are going to miss out on seeing their father because he's so selfish. It'll come back to bite him one day when they are grown up and he realizes how much he missed and that he doesn't have much of a relationship with them.
    And I don't really blame you about not wanting them around her, but be careful how you work that. Once the kids are older, the visitation thing may be subject to change, so try to get things in writing now.

    Document EVERYTHING.

    My thoughts go out to you and the boys in this tough time.
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    Re: The Oasis - A spot for FORT parents

    If your ex chooses his girlfriend over his kids, that's his loss, and like MRD says, will come back to bite him in the butt someday.
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