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    I highly doubt the winner take all dance has anything to do with Mark. It is probably a pre-planned response to the voter outcry last year when fan bases out-stripped the judge's scores. Other than the finale, fan bases CAN negate the judges and this is a chance to give the judges a way to insert more authority the week before the finale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arielflies View Post
    I highly doubt the winner take all dance has anything to do with Mark. It is probably a pre-planned response to the voter outcry last year when fan bases out-stripped the judge's scores. Other than the finale, fan bases CAN negate the judges and this is a chance to give the judges a way to insert more authority the week before the finale.
    I think it does and it doesn't. See, the thing is, the producers think these things up one season too late. While Hines and Chelsea may be miles ahead of Kirstie and Ralph, I think this season, all 4 deserve to be in the finals. So why not just let the viewers decide. Since I'm not in the Derek/Mark camp, I always feel as though it begins and ends with them, and the show does what it can to cater to them to get them a stupid trophy, or at least as far as they can. I'm sure they were trying to prevent another Bristol disaster from happening, but it seems like it's blatant producer manipulation. Since they don't give any indication of where the couples are overall on the leader board, or even something better than 'millions of you voted', it's hard to tell if the judges votes really make a difference or not. I think the judges have their time to score, and then the fans should have there's. If they want to do any tinkering, maybe give appropriate scores to the dances rather than fluff them up. Bristol was beyond over scored and got away with stuff no other couple would have. Other couples got called out for the stupidest things.

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    Wouldn't a winner-take-all be a detriment to a couple, especially if it's Mark? Wouldn't the voters feel like their votes are manipulated and ignored and could result in that couple getting even fewer votes?? IDK - just a thought.

    But it does feel more like they are trying to make sure Mark makes the finals. What a shame that Chelsea is not even a factor in what's going on here.

    How 'bout next season they rename the show to "Dancing With Mark Ballas"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by anders332 View Post
    Wouldn't a winner-take-all be a detriment to a couple, especially if it's Mark? Wouldn't the voters feel like their votes are manipulated and ignored and could result in that couple getting even fewer votes?? IDK - just a thought.

    But it does feel more like they are trying to make sure Mark makes the finals. What a shame that Chelsea is not even a factor in what's going on here.

    How 'bout next season they rename the show to "Dancing With Mark Ballas"?
    good point, and I hope that's what happen if M and C get the points. I'm kinda hoping that the judges stop being puppets and reward the points to somebody else on technical points of the dance. Kirstie usually has great foot work (unless she forgets to move her feet ) so she could do well if she can dance like she did last week. I hate the judges having so much power, especially when they have the reputation for being boot-lickers to a special few
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    I agree about it being blantant manipulation from the producers, and that's why I'm so upset/disgusted about it.

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    That's how I feel. Much like the dance off during season 9 came about 5 seasons too late, I feel like something like this would have been better reserved for last season. However, as much as the producers might want to do damage control over Bristol making it to the finals (over just about everyone else), I'm sure the ratings made up for it. She didn't win, but there was a small possibility her fanbase could have taken her there. This season, I don't think there'd be as much of an uproar over who makes the finals, besides Mark. But that's pretty much a given. Since Ralph is the odd man out when it comes to dance ability and hasn't been on top with the judges the last couple of weeks, and doesn't seem to bring the star power as Kirstie, that's why I'm thinking he's a goner. I'm thinking we'll see perfect score(s) tonight. With the dances, we have Chelsea (Rumba/AT), Hines (Salsa/AT), Kirstie (Paso/VW), and Ralph (Salsa/AT), I think Chelsea could come out on top with either 2 perfect scores, or one perfect score and a couple of 10s for the other. Hines could also get a perfect score. Interesting that Kirstie's the only one who has completely different dance styles than the others (and Chelsea being the only rumba). Back to the cha cha challenge, I think it's crazy they're first pitting the 1st and 4th place couples against each other. It'd make more sense to put 1st/2nd and 3rd/4th.

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    Maksim Chmerkovskiy Compares Production of ‘Dancing With the Stars’ to ‘American Idol’ - OK! Magazine - The First for Celebrity News

    Maksim Chmerkovskiy Compares Production of ‘Dancing With the Stars’ to ‘American Idol’
    May 17th, 2011 7:00 pm / Author: rlevine SHARE
    The “bad boy of ballroom” does not keep his feelings to himself! Dancing with the Stars pro Maksim Chmerkovskiy told reporters last night exactly what he thought of the production process on the show.

    “Production is the hardest thing. Seriously, it’s the fact that you have 10 billion interviews and 40,000 pickup lines and packages in the music and has to start here and finished there,” Maksim explained. “I feel like this season has been, personally, the hardest season I’ve ever had because everything has become ‘let’s be American Idol,’ and we are and that’s amazing, but it’s a form of entertainment and I feel that sometimes how producers forget that they are not dancers.”

    “Throw me in and tell me I have to do 10 numbers by tomorrow and I have to be all different and all this way and I will do it, no problem,” he added. “But these people are trying to focus on going forward with their left and someone is pulling them away to do a interview, or saying ‘stand here, say it again because there was no passion,’ what f**king passion, I am forgetting my steps. So that’s the hardest part.”

    While talking about last night’s Cha-Cha Challenge, Maks thought that the challenge was a good idea.

    “I think it’s a good idea to give the opportunity for better dancers that may not have as big a fan base to get a chance into the finals. I wish we had that last season with Brandy, but…. It’s all good. I compared Kirstie [Alley] and feel we actually held our own. It was a great cha-cha and it felt good.”

    But he did admit it’s hard when you have three judges with three different opinions.

    “Unless you have three ballroom judges you don’t really have a fair comparison. I mean, it’s a matter of preference. I think that Carrie-Ann [Inaba], no matter what, would prefer somebody like Chelsea [Kane] over us because we are very technical and Chelsea is very flashy, so like you said, it’s a matter of preference. I don’t mind the outcome at all.”

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    Dancing With the Stars DWTS Ralph Macchio eliminated semifinals results show | Season 12 Episode 17 | EW.com

    'Dancing With the Stars' recap: Maks On, Wax Off
    Three couples head into next week's season 12 finals; Stevie Nicks performs
    By Annie Barrett | Published May 18, 2011

    To no one's surprise, the karate kid who earned 25 less points than the leader during Monday's semifinals was sent home on week 9 of Dancing With the Stars. Ralph Macchio, a fountain of enthusiasm and youth, returned to his family just like he made a point to do after every Hollywood job in the '80s. Throughout his exit interview, I kept gazing up at the three sad blondes onstage (Kym, Kirstie, Chelsea), who were clearly genuinely crushed to see him go.

    Ralph definitely loved being on Planet Mirrorballus, but after the judges' tepid response to his efforts this week, it seemed like he was ready to leave. I liked how he brought up his week 1 dance ("the place erupted," awww) instead of his recent, more troubling experiences, and I loved how Karina acknowledged that she'd had a blast this season. She totally did, and Ralph is to thank. He's a perfect DWTS contestant to me: Fun, nerdy, clueless about the ballroom, and dying to be there. Loved this couple.

    Ralph may not have been the strongest dancer, but his fans will likely believe that Monday night's Winner Takes All Cha-Cha (which awarded 15 extra points to Chelsea and Mark) was the twisted knife at play in Ralph's demise. I learned today that the WTACC had been planned before season 12 had even begun, and was instituted as a direct result of early exits by talented dancers such as Brandy and Sabrina Bryan. So apparently even if the producers didn't want to put a specific couple ahead this week, the WTACC would have happened anyway. Weird!
    For the more succinct version of the above paragraph, here's Karina after the show: “[The judges] said everything besides the actual words, ‘we don’t want you in the finale.'"
    So I guess it makes me wonder-if the producers planned something but decided not to use it, would they still be able to get out of it or would they have to do it? This in reference to the 'winner take all' dance happening regardless of whether or not they wanted a certain couple in the finals over Ralph. I'll stick with the conspiracy they wanted Ralph out, given the negative attitude towards him Monday and everything being so lovey to everyone else. Last season may have been more of a disaster of one of the worst dancers ever overstaying her welcome, but it's not the first time that has happened, nor will it be the last. So why put this challenge in place now? Why do a dance off 3 and 4 seasons after Sabrina Bryan? That really only resulted in saving one bad dancing couple. I think they make the rules up as they want the season to happen. Makes me wonder if the producers have felt any heat over that. Another thing-why 15 points? That's what seemed odd to me was how many points were being given out, and why it seemed like they knew just how many points someone needed to make it over another. I don't even think the marathon dances or the judges ranked dance in the second night of the finals gave more than 10 points to the top couple.

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    This is why the producers should stop making format changes like this in general -- they are applying a solution one year in response to the previous year's problem. Why did they think they would need the winner-take-all this year, when they already solved last year's problem by not casting someone nearly as polarizing (or green) as Bristol? They made sure that it was an even playing field from week one. It just doesn't make sense that they still thought they would need to throw this wrench into the semi-finals. They ended up doing more harm than good.

    The show is a popularity content, it always will be. They already give the judges' scores more weight in the finals, they should just make sure that the viewer voting system isn't corruptible, and live with America's decisions.
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    So basically again just like with the soaps on ABC, they are giving fans the big middle finger and saying you do not matter to us. I thought this was supposed to be a viewer participation show, and now they are saying what we stink at our participation so you who breads our butter away with you? ABC really has a lousy business format. I truly believe if Disney was not in their arsenol they would be out with the leadership they have now. They truly do not care one iota about their fans.

    Their loyal soap fans had a protest, and the Head of Daytime supposedly came out and laughed at them. What a way to treat us, laugh at us, and cancel out our participation in a viewer vote show. I am guessing this is the beginning of the end for this show.

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