102LikesI wonder if with all these "shocking" eliminations this season, and the Bristol factor, if they'll bring the dance off back next season.
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I wish they had done it this seasonOriginally Posted by karalott;4108045;
They should have put Kyle and Jennifer through and then had Brandy and Bristol dance off for the third position, to be determined by the judges.
I've become less and less interested in watching this show over the past few seasons. I just hate that power voters are skewing the results. I guess that's always happened, to some extent, but it's just been really glaringly obvious recently. Since Nicole won last year and (although I didn't vote for her and wanted Evan to win), she was a great dancer, I have hope that BP won't win the whole thing this season.
I think they definitely need to overhaul the voting system. The best dancer will rarely win, just like on SYTYCD, and I guess that's okay. I'd just like it to be less about power voters.
I just can't believe this show has become "vote for the mediocre."
Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.' - Isaac Asimov
I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, "... I drank what?"
I completely agree with you. The power voters (ballot box stuffers in my opinion) are ruining this show. They have done so since I first joined this forum back in the days of season 6 when Marissa Jaret Winokur was the beneficiary of a similar campaign.I wish they had done it this season
I've become less and less interested in watching this show over the past few seasons. I just hate that power voters are skewing the results. I guess that's always happened, to some extent, but it's just been really glaringly obvious recently. Since Nicole won last year and (although I didn't vote for her and wanted Evan to win), she was a great dancer, I have hope that BP won't win the whole thing this season.
I think they definitely need to overhaul the voting system. The best dancer will rarely win, just like on SYTYCD, and I guess that's okay. I'd just like it to be less about power voters.
I just can't believe this show has become "vote for the mediocre."
I would prefer a scheme where there is a way to guarantee one vote per viewer. I know this is impossible, but eliminating online voting would go a long way toward fixing the problem since this is the way most "stuffing" votes are cast. I also definitely agree with changing up the phone numbers and only announcing them during the show. This would put up an additional roadblock to non-viewing voters.
Totally agree. How about charging $1 per phone/text vote (the same limit they're using now) and the total amount raised at the end of the season would go to building dance studios in different parts of the country. Get some crossover going with Extreme Makeover. And I would think that ABC would want to switch up those phone numbers each week in order to get people to tune in. The advertisers would like that as well.
All moot points because as far as I'm concerned, this show has completely jumped the shark
That's actually a really good idea! It could benefit the Happy Feet Foundation, since Carrie Ann is one of the founders.Totally agree. How about charging $1 per phone/text vote (the same limit they're using now) and the total amount raised at the end of the season would go to building dance studios in different parts of the country. Get some crossover going with Extreme Makeover. And I would think that ABC would want to switch up those phone numbers each week in order to get people to tune in. The advertisers would like that as well.
All moot points because as far as I'm concerned, this show has completely jumped the shark
Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.' - Isaac Asimov
I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, "... I drank what?"
I remember the first season of Big Brother charged a $1 fee for every vote you cast (which I believe was the only season that allowed the viewers to vote on who got eliminated). I don't know about that, but I think the online is what really needs to get modified. If they want the judges scores to count for more, then the judges need to score fairly and accordingly. Not giving a clunker the same scores as someone who actually pulled the dance off much better, or giving everyone 9s and 10s to make things close and pretend it's all on America. I really get tired of the show saying it's our fault that Bristol is still there (they're half right). But I think charging for phone votes and the money going to charity is a good idea
The only problem with the dance off, is Bristol would have to actually be a bottom 2 vote getter to wind up in that position in the first place. And I don't believe she was last night, or has been all season. Plus, I don't know how much I trust the judges. It's speculation, but I believe Kyle was probably right ahead of Brandy. The judges love Kyle, even though Brandy's a better dancer. If they did those stupid special knock out dances that were designed just for the dance off in season 9, they could find a way to vote how they want because it's supposed to be based solely on that dance. Either way, given all the defense of Bristol the show is cranking out, and the outrage that is greater than I think I've ever seen, I do have to wonder what's really going through the minds of those behind the scenes. Still a great idea or not? I hope they steer away from this sort of casting next season.
CA comes across condescending, especially when she gets called out on her lack of knowledge. Reading her tweets, I get the same impression when she's typing them as I do of her sitting at the judges table. I feel like they'd need the jaws of life to ever get her away from this show. Hopefully 1 vs 100 winds up taking too much of her time (I can dream). I think the judges need to be off limits. I do think the critiques need to be more focused on the star and what they need to improve. CA says she bases each star on their own ablities and doesn't compare them to anyone else (I guess unless she doesn't like them). I don't think it's been right Bristol's gotten so much slack while every other celeb who's worked just as hard gets dinged and nitpicked for the smallest flaws.
My suggestion to deal with odd public voting results:
Each week the top half--based on judges scores--are safe from elimination. This wouldn't have sent Bristol home earlier, but it would have protected stronger dancers like Audrina, Rick and Brandy a little longer.
I'm an online voter, with one acct and use my alloted votes one time - why should someone like me be punished because there are others abusing the system??
By having a dance off of the B2 takes away the 'not necessarily' B2 mystery, and if they did it weekly, it would be very clear to the audience that Bristol was never ever in jeopardy.
Unless the producers decide it's too controversial to have BP win this, she's got this.
That really takes away the power of the popular vote, though, and that is what the show is stressing the premise is: combination of 1/2 judges' score and 1/2 popular viewer vote.
They would then have to promote the show totally differently, and the judges would have to reel in their favoritism as well. As it is, they often don't do a good job of that. For instance, the first night it was obvious who the judges thought would end up in the finals (Jennifer), and half-way through Carrie Ann slipped and called Jennifer "the chosen one."
My suggestion would be to look at the way it is done on SYTYCD where the power to eliminate is in the judges' hands for a while before it is turned completely over to the viewers, and then the judges try to make semi-subtle remarks to sway the voters, but the viewers still have the power and control.
The other suggestion is to revamp the voting system so that block voting is discouraged. Since I am not technologically wired, I don't know how to do this, but I am positive that there are tech gerus who do.
ETA: My last thought is that the producers probably won't do anything. Why? They won't remedy the situation because then there won't be as much controversy, and the producers love the controversy which means chatter about the show. There are all kinds of media articles out right now about DWTS and Bristol. Conrad Green is eating this up! He doesn't want this to go away. This is why he hired Bristol, and especially why he hired her for a season during an election year.
That would be my suggestion too. Some people have complained about how they do it on SYTYCD but, honestly, the judges generally know more than the viewing public. Although the best dancer never wins on SYTYCD, the winner is always one of the better dancers.
Adopting that method of eliminating early competitors would assure that the winner would at least have some talent.
Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.' - Isaac Asimov
I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, "... I drank what?"
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