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    Was Dancing With the Stars Rigged?

    Today 4:08 PM PDT by Joal Ryan


    Buzz Aldrin, dead last on the Dancing With the Stars judging score cards, survives to shuffle across the ballroom another week, with the detested and uncoordinated Kate Gosselin in tow, while Shannen Doherty gets taken out just as we were starting to remember why we liked her back at West Beverly High.

    Can you say "Fix?" Oh, yes, we know you can.

    But let's back you away from that window you're shouting from, and consider the charges:

    • Charge No. 1: DWTS goosed the results to keep Aldrin around because, geez, the man walked on the moon—you can't dump an American hero to the curb after two lousy dances.

    • Charge No. 2: DWTS goosed the results to keep Gosselin around because, c'mon, she's notorious, and she's helping the show pull record numbers.

    • Charge No. 3: DWTS judged Doherty the most expendable, and, for good ratings measure, put Pamela Anderson in the bottom two.

    That about cover it? Good. Now, look...

    On second thought, we'll spare you the argument that Doherty is a bigger TV star than Aldrin (not to mention a few others), was on course to become this season's Kelly Osbourne reinvention, and was therefore anything but expendable, and we'll tell you instead what our calculator found.

    See, if you crunch the judges' scores the way they do at DWTS, then the field bunches—the lows aren't as low, the highs aren't as high, although, sure, a good amount of outer space still separates Aldrin from Nicole Scherzinger. But Doherty's lead over Aldrin becomes less than 3 percentage points, her lead over Gosselin less than 2. That's not a lot of wiggle room for when the public's votes are added in—if Aldrin manages to best Doherty by just three full points there, then, presto, he's ahead.

    We got this crash course in DWTS counting today from executive producer Conrad Green. We'd called to talk vote rigging. Green obliged. (He helped set Steve Wozniak straight last year, so he's had practice.)

    "I can assure you absolutely there's no rigging of these votes," Green said, citing the rules, regulations, more rules and three independent accounting firms. "I couldn't do anything about them if I wanted to."

    If the suspicious figure that's exactly what a man in Green's position would say, then maybe they wouldn't expect him to say he knows why there was uproar over last night's results: "Whenever logic is defied," he said, "people get angry." Or to put it another way, if you watched the routines, there's no way Aldrin doesn't go home, there's no way Anderson's on the firing line, there's no way Doherty doesn't stick around, and so on.

    Unfortunately for Doherty and Anderson, the two might have fallen victim to the oldest stumbling block in Chris Daughtry book. Said Green: "A lot of people assumed they'd get the votes."

    While every vote always counts, every vote is especially important in the early, contender-packed shows. "The margins can be really small—it can just be a few hundred votes," Green said.

    Last night's results was the same story: "There weren't huge margins involved," he said, "and typically there aren't."

    Yes, but, we hear the suspicious yelling, "What about Gosselin? How do explain that...that...that woman!"

    Green did a pretty good job explaining, actually. He said Gosselin's the closest the show has ever had to a real, live member of the general public in the cast, and that he can see lots of women empathizing with her story and voting accordingly.

    If you're still dubious, then we recommend Entertainment Weekly's take on the results: "There's No Voting Against People," which pointed out that people who dislike, say, Gosselin can't dial 800-I-HATE-KATE—they must vote for one or more of her competitors, thereby diffusing their laser-intense loathing. Green agreed with the article's basic premise, if not with the Web's prevailing anti-Gosselin sentiment.

    "I'm astonished with the vitriol," Green said. "She's working so hard."

    OK, look, we know, you stopped paying attention about a paragraph ago, and started dialing 800-I-HATE-KATE, but time to check back in because, one, the number doesn't work, and, two, neither does the conspiracy theory.
    Was Dancing With the Stars Rigged? - E! Online

    Still and all, how convenient that Shannon was voted out the very week her partner was injured. And the Gosselin monster ratings juggernaut lived on to scream another day.
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    Conrad Green is "astonished at the vitrol". Really? Does he have dollar signs in his eyes when he's pretending to actually mean that? No one on this show can say they're at all surprised by any of the publicity Kate is getting, especially when they show her usually mild mannered partner walking out on her.

    And yes, I'm still on the conspiracy train about Shannen's elimination.

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    'Dancing With the Stars': Zap2it readers weigh in on Pamela Anderson - From Inside the Box - Zap2it

    " . . .It is obvious. I bet 90% of the people who vote are women.

    90% of women are jealous of Pam because, even tho she is a surgically altered barbie doll whose sole purpose is to project a slutty, sex kitten image, their husbands and boyfriends still love her.

    ...or so said my wife. . . . "

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    Re: DWTS Media Thread

    Dances next week are the paso doble and quick step. So far, we have:

    Paso doble: Chad/Cheryl, Kate/Tony

    Quick step: Jake/Chelsie, Aiden/Edyta, Evan/Anna

    I feel like Aiden's screwed by this dance choice Looks like I'll be going into overdrive voting for them Monday. Kate lucked out in getting the easier of the two, though I suppose she'll still screw it up. But I feel like she's going to get over scored/better comments than she deserves again. At least her sour puss face will come in handy for something.

    And if anyone wants to vote for the male celeb you want to see dancing with Melissa Rycroft for the Design a Dance, your choices are: Cameron Mathison, Cody Linley, Joey Fatone, Joey Lawrence, Lance Bass, Maurice Green, and Warren Sapp. I guess Ashley Hamilton, the Woz, and Jeffrey Ross were too busy.
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    I stopped voting several years ago on any show when I figured all of them are rigged.
    America's Got Talent, American Idol, DWTS - all of them.

    When these shows come out with absolute proof voting is not rigged I'll start voting again. I don't take the producers/networks word for anything. Naturally they will say it's not rigged. Prove it!!!!

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    Since they only announce the total number of votes and not the percentages each contestant got, then they don't have to be accountable to prove anything, and they know it.
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    Here is the complete list of dances for next week : PASO - Chad, Pamela, Kate WALTZ - Buzz, Erin, Niecy QUICKSTEP - Aiden, Jake, Evan, Nicole

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMFan;3867965;
    Here is the complete list of dances for next week : PASO - Chad, Pamela, Kate WALTZ - Buzz, Erin, Niecy QUICKSTEP - Aiden, Jake, Evan, Nicole
    Gee, are they TRYING to get rid of Aidan?! Something stinks here. Seems like they're seting it up for Kate to get a pass, ditto Buzz. Aiden would have had a much better chance with the Paso. And why three different dances ...isn't it usually two?

    (Does anyone else have trouble posting here, in that when you click on "reply" or "quote," it takes forever for the screen to appear? Same thing when clicking on a new page?? I can never get responses when I try to ask a technical question in a more appropriate place, so please excuse me adding this to my post, mods. I just want to know if I'm the only one.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky22;3868020;
    Gee, are they TRYING to get rid of Aidan?! Something stinks here. Seems like they're seting it up for Kate to get a pass, ditto Buzz. Aiden would have had a much better chance with the Paso. And why three different dances ...isn't it usually two?

    (Does anyone else have trouble posting here, in that when you click on "reply" or "quote," it takes forever for the screen to appear? Same thing when clicking on a new page?? I can never get responses when I try to ask a technical question in a more appropriate place, so please excuse me adding this to my post, mods. I just want to know if I'm the only one.)

    Lucky - I've had no trouble on this site today and I quoted to check.

    I didn't realize there would be 3 different dances on Monday night - that is strange isn't it?
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