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    While driving my son to school, a morning show played an alleged voice mail from Tiger to a woman asking her to remove her name from her voicemail because his wife had found the the number on his phone. I don't know if it was really him or not, but why does the media feel the need to play it in the first place? IF he cheated on her, Elin is in enough pain and suffering enough humiliation as it is. I'm no fan of cheaters, but I also think this is between Tiger and his wife. If it happened, she's the one that has to decide whether to leave or stay and make it work. The media just makes that decision harder for her. Celebrity or not, this is a very personal, private matter between a man and his wife. It shouldn't be assumed that just because he's famous we have a right to know every personal detail about him. A marriage is is between two people, not 20 million.

    This is exactly why he should have stepped up in the very beginning, met with the police, and made a brief statement to the public about the facts of the incident, expressing regret for whatever he's trying to hide, and just moved on.

    Does anyone remember the mess David Letterman was in just a short time ago? He came out ahead of the story breaking in the media, admitted what he had done, and completely diffused the situation before it could get out of hand, like this one has. Does anyone care about Letterman's extra-marital indiscretions? No. Is anyone still talking about it? No. Does anyone want to hear from the mistress(es) now? No. Just a few late-night jokes and it was over.

    Tiger does not owe anyone an explanation about the details of his accident, or the cause of it, but he could have made it a lot easier on himself and his family if he had handled the situation differently from the beginning. He makes $100 million per year in endorsement deals for various brands. To date, only Nike has come out in support of him. He stands to lose a lot. This situation will continue to get worse for the Woods family before it gets better, that's just what the tabloid media does.

    Tiger should fire his PR people, if he hasn't already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexxxx;3760871;
    This is exactly why he should have stepped up in the very beginning, met with the police, and made a brief statement to the public about the facts of the incident, expressing regret for whatever he's trying to hide, and just moved on.

    Does anyone remember the mess David Letterman was in just a short time ago? He came out ahead of the story breaking in the media, admitted what he had done, and completely diffused the situation before it could get out of hand, like this one has. Does anyone care about Letterman's extra-marital indiscretions? No. Is anyone still talking about it? No. Does anyone want to hear from the mistress(es) now? No. Just a few late-night jokes and it was over.

    Tiger does not owe anyone an explanation about the details of his accident, or the cause of it, but he could have made it a lot easier on himself and his family if he had handled the situation differently from the beginning. He makes $100 million per year in endorsement deals for various brands. To date, only Nike has come out in support of him. He stands to lose a lot. This situation will continue to get worse for the Woods family before it gets better, that's just what the tabloid media does.

    Tiger should fire his PR people, if he hasn't already.

    HUGE difference between David Letterman and Tiger Woods. David Letterman is a known womanizer... Tiger Woods is not. David Letterman was being blackmailed.. Tiger Woods is not.

    By all means.. celebrities should lay their most intimate details out there for the public just so the media doesn't go out there determined to trash them. Yeah, that makes PERFECT sense. How silly of his PR people to not try that technique.


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    Tiger Woods: I have let my family down
    December 2, 2009 10:24 a.m. EST
    (CNN) -- Golfer Tiger Woods apologized Wednesday for "transgressions" that let his family down.

    "I have let my family down and I regret those transgressions with all of my heart. I have not been true to my values and the behavior my family deserves," he said in a statement on his official Web site.

    "I am not without faults and I am far short of perfect. I am dealing with my behavior and personal failings behind closed doors with my family. Those feelings should be shared by us alone."

    Woods made the comments in a statement posted on his Web site the same day that a gossip magazine published a story alleging that Woods had an affair with a 24-year-old cocktail waitress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexxxx;3760871;
    This is exactly why he should have stepped up in the very beginning, met with the police, and made a brief statement to the public about the facts of the incident, expressing regret for whatever he's trying to hide, and just moved on.

    Does anyone remember the mess David Letterman was in just a short time ago? He came out ahead of the story breaking in the media, admitted what he had done, and completely diffused the situation before it could get out of hand, like this one has. Does anyone care about Letterman's extra-marital indiscretions? No. Is anyone still talking about it? No. Does anyone want to hear from the mistress(es) now? No. Just a few late-night jokes and it was over.

    Tiger does not owe anyone an explanation about the details of his accident, or the cause of it, but he could have made it a lot easier on himself and his family if he had handled the situation differently from the beginning. He makes $100 million per year in endorsement deals for various brands. To date, only Nike has come out in support of him. He stands to lose a lot. This situation will continue to get worse for the Woods family before it gets better, that's just what the tabloid media does.

    Tiger should fire his PR people, if he hasn't already.

    I had heard that a number of corps had come out in support of him--including Gatorade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broadway;3760874;
    HUGE difference between David Letterman and Tiger Woods. David Letterman is a known womanizer... Tiger Woods is not. David Letterman was being blackmailed.. Tiger Woods is not.

    By all means.. celebrities should lay their most intimate details out there for the public just so the media doesn't go out there determined to trash them. Yeah, that makes PERFECT sense. How silly of his PR people to not try that technique.


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    Thank you! Excellent statement from Woods, now it will begin to go away.

    It's sad that as a celebrity who makes money from personal endorsements, he doesn't have the option of 'ignore it and it will go away'.

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    Thank you! Excellent statement from Woods, now it will begin to go away.

    It's sad that as a celebrity who makes money from personal endorsements, he doesn't have the option of 'ignore it and it will go away'.
    What's sad that because someone gets in a car accident he has to resort to answering questions about alleged affairs.
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    Broadway--hi. I agee with you. I am starting to wonder if some of the entertainment "news" outlets had some of this stuff and were just waiting for the best time to release it without looking like they were attacking Woods for no good reason.

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    The police or another agency for example.
    The police would have to witness the violence, or have an eye witness who is willing to go on record as having seen what went on, or have one of the partners complain/admit to the violence.

    They can't just do whatever they want to do without appropriate corroborating evidence.

    This just goes into my general file of "As A Group, Men Can Be Pretty Stupid."
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    FYI.... here's the full text of Tiger's apology:

    Tiger comments on current events
    By Tiger Woods
    I have let my family down and I regret those transgressions with all of my heart. I have not been true to my values and the
    behavior my family deserves. I am not without faults and I am far short of perfect. I am dealing with my behavior and personal
    failings behind closed doors with my family. Those feelings should be shared by us alone.

    Although I am a well-known person and have made my career as a professional athlete, I have been dismayed to realize the full
    extent of what tabloid scrutiny really means. For the last week, my family and I have been hounded to expose intimate details of
    our personal lives. The stories in particular that physical violence played any role in the car accident were utterly false and
    malicious. Elin has always done more to support our family and shown more grace than anyone could possibly expect.

    But no matter how intense curiosity about public figures can be, there is an important and deep principle at stake which is the
    right to some simple, human measure of privacy. I realize there are some who don't share my view on that. But for me, the virtue
    of privacy is one that must be protected in matters that are intimate and within one's own family. Personal sins should not
    require press releases and problems within a family shouldn't have to mean public confessions.


    Whatever regrets I have about letting my family down have been shared with and felt by us alone. I have given this a lot of
    reflection and thought and I believe that there is a point at which I must stick to that principle even though it's difficult.
    I will strive to be a better person and the husband and father that my family deserves. For all of those who have supported me
    over the years, I offer my profound apology.
    Good for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prhoshay;3760889;
    The police would have to witness the violence, or have an eye witness who is willing to go on record as having seen what went on, or have one of the partners complain/admit to the violence.

    They can't just do whatever they want to do without appropriate corroborating evidence.
    No they wouldn't. They can observe the behavior of the victim in relation to the abuser (fearful, highly developed startle reflex, hypersensitivity to noise and movement, etc) and can observe bruising.

    None of that is seeing the hitting take place but it constitutes enough to have a reasonable suspicion about Domestic Abuse.

    Under current laws with such suspicion they can be the third party complainant--while under previous laws only the victim could make a complaint.


    (BTW--reports about suspicions of Domedtic Violence can be reported anonymously. )

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    The police had nothing to go on. He was the only person hurt, and he had what "could have been" a reasonable explanation.
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