Michael Jackson

Chitex--hi. That's very interesting--especially since the various entertainment news shows made it sound as though they were only showing "official" footage that had been authorized.

I an wondering if--the video was really authorized (all the shows showed the very same video) and/or if Randy is reacting after the fact.

Having had to plan and then go through a number of family funerals myself I can understand okaying something ahead of time and then being very disturbed by the reality of seeing/hearing it after the fact.
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Short rant--Joe Jackson has always disturbed me--no more so than every time I've seen him on tv since Michael's death. I find him incredibly creepy. His energy/aura is very muddy and often he seems to have no aura at all.

The petty part of this is--does he NEVER remove his hat? He even had his hat on during Michael's funeral. Wasn't this like being in church? Isn't there a measure of respect implied in being at someone's funeral?

I mean--even if he's bald--which is probably why he wears the hat always--doesn't respect/love for his son take precendence?

Geesh!
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Originally Posted by Wind Dancer;3693293;

Chitex--hi. That's very interesting--especially since the various entertainment news shows made it sound as though they were only showing "official" footage that had been authorized.

I an wondering if--the video was really authorized (all the shows showed the very same video) and/or if Randy is reacting after the fact.

Having had to plan and then go through a number of family funerals myself I can understand okaying something ahead of time and then being very disturbed by the reality of seeing/hearing it after the fact.
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Short rant--Joe Jackson has always disturbed me--no more so than every time I've seen him on tv since Michael's death. I find him incredibly creepy. His energy/aura is very muddy and often he seems to have no aura at all.

The petty part of this is--does he NEVER remove his hat? He even had his hat on during Michael's funeral. Wasn't this like being in church? Isn't there a measure of respect implied in being at someone's funeral?

I mean--even if he's bald--which is probably why he wears the hat always--doesn't respect/love for his son take precendence?

Geesh!
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Hey Wind---I think the networks were only to film until the casket was brought in, but I think what we did see, some fans needed to see for closure.

Regarding Joe, the hat bothers me, but everything about Joe bothers me!

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Originally Posted by chitex3;3694364;

Hey Wind---I think the networks were only to film until the casket was brought in, but I think what we did see, some fans needed to see for closure.

Regarding Joe, the hat bothers me, but everything about Joe bothers me!

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Chitex--hi. What you say about closure make a lot of sense to me.

And I have to say--about Joe--he always reminds me of a very sleazy uncle who got drunk at every famliy (very big family) event and his hands started roaming and the drunker he got the more his hands roamed.

Thank goodness--I guess--that he always worked his mouth too much and started too many verbal arguments and often got escorted out.

But every time I see Joe I get that same very uneasy feeling in my gut that something bad is about to happen.

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Originally Posted by Wind Dancer;3695473;

Chitex--hi. What you say about closure make a lot of sense to me.

And I have to say--about Joe--he always reminds me of a very sleazy uncle who got drunk at every famliy (very big family) event and his hands started roaming and the drunker he got the more his hands roamed.

Thank goodness--I guess--that he always worked his mouth too much and started too many verbal arguments and often got escorted out.

But every time I see Joe I get that same very uneasy feeling in my gut that something bad is about to happen.

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And with Joe, something bad is going to happen. Saw that LaToya will be a guest host on The View (another train wreck). Also, the three children will continue to be home-schooled rather than go to private school as originally planned. Nothing against home schooling, but as a teacher, I would have liked to see them go to school outside the home.(TMZ) Gotta go, lunch is almost over!

That's a shame about the kids. I too think that being around other children in daily situations would be a very good thing for them. It would give them at least some idea about how most people live their lives--something they obviously did not get living in the bubble that Michael created for them.

Two items-it seems that Germaine's "Tribute concert" for Michael is not going to go off as Germaine planned.

None of the performers that Germaine named in his press conference--Mary K. Bligh, Chris Brown etc--are able to make it.

So now he's saying there will be a memorial concert for Michael next June.

IMO much--most of this concert was a "Reality" only in Germaine's own mind.

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I saw part of Barbara Walters' interview with LaToya the other night. (On ABC's "20/20")According to LaToya Michael told her many times that someone would kill him--he would not die a natural death. Whether this had any basis in fact or was mostly drug-induced paranoia is up for grabs.

Barbara also asked her something about Diana Ross and the kids--remember that Michael's will named Diana their guardian if his mother were unable to do it?--but I didn't stay around to hear the answer. I can only take so much Barbara--and unfortunately not much more of LaToya.

Oh yes--in spite of Germaine's and other Jackson Family members'(including Joe and Germaine) disavowel of anyone's knowing about Michael's drug use--LaToya said that everyone knew about it and many of them tried to help Michael with it but "There's only so much anyone can do with a person in that situation."

So I guess a lot of what various members of Michael's family say--and how much one thinks is true--depends on whether one thinks any given Jackson has any credibility at all.

It's not unusual for families to have problems with the realities of their loved ones demises, and the circumstances that may be surrounding the way they lived their lives. (By the way, Michael's brother spells his name with a 'J', and not the way Germaine Greer spells hers.) Look at the man who is having serious issues admitting that his wife was drunk when she killed all of those people when she drove the wrong way on the highway. Sometimes, it just takes time to come to terms with some things, I guess.

As I heard this on the radio and the local news this morning, I could not find a link to post.
They did say at autopsy / results conclusion that Michael was deemed to be in good shape, etc. and there was no evidence of bad heart, etc. that would lead to his death. So, they are saying that the COD was the anethestic administered by Dr. Murray to get him to sleep. There was no mention as to whether or not charges were going to be leveled at Dr. Murray.

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Originally Posted by Wind Dancer;3696179;

That's a shame about the kids. I too think that being around other children in daily situations would be a very good thing for them. It would give them at least some idea about how most people live their lives--something they obviously did not get living in the bubble that Michael created for them.

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I have no issue with home schooling, as long as the parent works in some socialization, too. However, I have to agree with you. These kids could benefit from the social environment that going to school offers.

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Originally Posted by prhoshay;3699499;

It's not unusual for families to have problems with the realities of their loved ones demises, and the circumstances that may be surrounding the way they lived their lives. (By the way, Michael's brother spells his name with a 'J', and not the way Germaine Greer spells hers.) Look at the man who is having serious issues admitting that his wife was drunk when she killed all of those people when she drove the wrong way on the highway. Sometimes, it just takes time to come to terms with some things, I guess.

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Proshay--Hi. I couildn't agree more. My own mother died over a year ago--a death that was expected--and all of us in the family are still trying to adjust to it.

I think we--the public--have expectations for public figures that we ourselves would not and could not hope to meet.

(Thanks for the spelling correction on Jermaine's name. I don't even want to try to spell the other sibs' names. :nod)