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    Re: Michael Jackson is Dead at 50 yrs. of age

    I only heard a snippet--the tail end--of a report on one of the entertainment news shows yesterday in which they said that Katherine is not doing well. It seems she is under so much pressure about taking care of the kids that she can barely make any decisions at all.

    Did anyone else hear this?
    And if so-what else did they say about it?
    In what was it relation to?

    I think--not sure--that it was on ET.
    Thanks for any additional info on this.

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    I can't imagine being in any kind of decent shape after you've lost one of your children. Parents aren't supposed to bury their children. Very sad. You know, after you've lost some one extremely close to you, it really doesn't hit you until later. A friend/funeral director, who had lost his own father, told me that there was something about that 6-month mark, after your loved one dies. I didn't get what he was talking about that '6-month mark', until it hit me like a ton of bricks...6 months after my mother had been gone. Michael has not been gone that long, yet. Intellectually (and activity-wise), you know your person is gone, but that 6-month mark is strange.
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    PRH--I know what you're talking about--it took quite a whole after my own mother died before I realized she was really gone and not ever coming back.

    I think that most of us can't really understand the kind of stress Katherine is under right now--grieving for her son AND having to make plans for and take care of the three children.

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    Looks like Dr. Murray is going to be charged very soon.
    And, there's a possibility of Dr. Klein ( the dermatologist ) being charged, as well.


    Michael Jackson’s personal physician will be charged with manslaughter within the next two weeks, a law enforcement source told FOXNews.com.

    The source initially said Dr. Conrad Murray could be arrested as soon as next Wednesday — but investigators have decided to execute one more search warrant, likely at a Los Angeles pharmacy, next week in an attempt to gather more evidence against him. The arrest is now expected the following week.

    Murray isn’t the only doctor who faces criminal charges in connection with Jackson's death on June 25. A law enforcement source told FOXNews.com that Jackson’s longtime dermatologist, Dr. Arnold Klein, will be hit with charges related to medical malpractice. Investigators are still building their case against Klein, and he will not be arrested for at least another two weeks, the source said.

    Jane Robison, spokeswoman for the Los Angeles County District Attorney's office, denied that prosecutors had decided to charge Jackson's physicians. “Until police complete their investigation and bring it to our office, there is no way to know what charges may be filed and against whom,” she said.

    But the source told FOXNews.com that the DA's office is currently in talks with investigators about whether they will offer Murray the option of surrendering in Los Angeles, or if he will be arrested in Houston, where he is currently staying.

    Investigators initially had hoped to charge Murray with a more serious crime than manslaughter — a defendant may be charged with second degree murder in California without the presence of a motive — but prosecutors are concerned that a jury will be unlikely to convict without one, sources said. Unless a "smoking gun" is found in next week’s search, Murray will be charged with manslaughter.

    Law enforcement sources previously told FOXNews.com that Murray admitted he gave the King of Pop the intravenous anesthetic propofol to help him sleep just hours before his death — and that propofol was at least a contributing factor in the 50-year-old entertainer's death.

    Murray posted a video on YouTube Tuesday that his legal team said was intended to be seen by his friends and patients. The video, which was Murray’s idea, was shot last Wednesday at a Houston residence, a spokeswoman for his attorneys said.

    Sirius Video, a Houston production company, was hired to film the cardiologist's first public words since Jackson’s death. But a company spokeswoman would not say who bankrolled the video. Murray is reportedly broke; his latest money troubles involve possible eviction from his Las Vegas home.

    In the one- minute video, a bedraggled and teary-eyed Murray thanked his friends and supporters and said he has been unable to check his e-mail or return phone calls due to death threats.

    “I want to thank all of my patients and friends who have sent such kind e-mails, letters and messages to let me know of your support and prayers for me and my family," Murray said.

    "Because of all that is going on I’m afraid to return phone calls or use my e-mail. Therefore I recorded this video to let all of you know that I have been receiving your messages. I have not been able to thank you personally, which you know is not normal for me.

    “Your messages give me strength and courage and keep me going. They mean the world to me.

    “Please don’t worry. As long as I keep God in my heart and you in my life, I will be fine. I have done all I could do. I told the truth and I have faith the truth will prevail.”

    A spokeswoman for Murray’s legal team said the video was simply Murray’s way of thanking his supporters, and that the doctor’s friends and supporters who had provided contact information to the attorneys received an e-mail with the link to the YouTube video yesterday.

    But others said the video was Murray’s "last testament" — a transparent attempt to garner sympathy and influence a jury pool.

    “This was a total PR stunt,” said former Broward County prosecutor Kenneth Padowitz.

    “I think what they’re trying to do is humanize him, trying to make him seem like this is somebody that maybe you could know and this is not a bad guy—that’s what they’re trying to do,” Padowitz said. “And for that limited purpose, it probably was effective….

    “Is it a transparent attempt to get feelings in his favor? Yeah. It’s a gimmick.”

    Padowitz said the video was certainly intended for widespread viewing, despite what Murray’s legal team says. And having his only statement come in a video format allowed for total control over what he said.

    “They did it this way so there could be no questioning by a reporter, no cross examination by anyone, or anyone asking a question he could not answer," Padowitz said. "They just basically put out a PR piece.”

    Klein, a Beverly Hills dermatologist, has admitted giving the painkiller Demerol — but not propofol — to Jackson, who suffered from insomnia. Klein has said he found out that Jackson was taking Diprivan, the brand name of propofol, to sleep when he was touring in Germany and warned his longtime friend of the dangers surrounding the intravenous anesthetic.

    Last month the Los Angeles coroner issued Klein a subpoena to turn over all of Jackson’s medical records.

    Klein also inserted himself into court proceedings related to custody issues involving Jackson’s three children.

    In a statement linked to on Klein's Twitter account earlier this month, his attorney wrote: “Dr. Klein has always had a special relationship with Paris Katherine and Prince Michael, loves and cares deeply for these children and is looking out for their best interest. Dr. Klein has been involved with the children in sharing holidays and other special events and wishes to have the ability to continue his involvement as a very close friend of their father and offers his guidance and protection forever.”
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    Re: Michael Jackson is Dead at 50 yrs. of age

    By the time they bury this man, he will have been dead for 2 years already.
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    I'm sorry but if this had been an ordinary person, there would not have been such an indepth investigation and no one would be charge with anything. This is being done for show. The doctor will be found guilty and suspended sentence. Oh wait this is LA I am talking about, they seem to acquit everyone.
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    Well, I understand what you're saying, but I do think it is good that all of this is being brought to light. Too often, it is all swept under the rug. I don't think MJ is the first person ever to be getting a multitude of drugs from their doctor supplier / enabler / sycophants. I do like the fact that maybe something will be done about this finally.
    I agree that most seem to get a free pass in LA. However, Phil Spector was sentenced in LA and he is a celebrity, so perhaps there is hope in La La Land.
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    Re: Michael Jackson is Dead at 50 yrs. of age

    I'm not trying to sound argumentive, but do you think all of this will change "business as usual"? I mean, Phil Spector shot someone in the face in his house, and it still took two trials to convict him. And the more MJ stays in the news (whether good or bad), the value of his estate goes up and up. It's like he was being used when alive and continues to be used after death.

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    Actually, OJ, before his first trial began and based on all the DNA evidence they had, was widely reputed to be a slam dunk. We all know how that turned out, though.
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    Re: Michael Jackson is Dead at 50 yrs. of age

    Regardless of the evidence, the prosecution just didn't present it's case well. I'm not saying nothing should happen in Michael Jackson's case, I'm just saying I don't know if anything will come of it. If anything ever does.

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