Michael Jackson - Page 30

prhoshay · 07-04-2009, 08:16 PM

So, when you said 'adorable', you were not talking about looks, but behavior? 'Adorable' has always addressed physical looks, to me, without clarification/specification.

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Kao · 07-04-2009, 08:55 PM

In hindsight, "A great kid all around" would have been a better thing to say. I should have been more clear, sorry!

hutchlover · 07-04-2009, 09:38 PM

I don't think there's any doubt she's not their biological mother (the eldest two). Prince Michael I looks exactly like her. And why would she voluntarily say she wants to do a DNA test to prove the case?

Bunny555 · 07-05-2009, 03:20 AM

Along with Joe, Debbie Rowe should be last on the list of best possible guardians/parents for those children. She has no relationship with them and sold any biological right to them long ago. I saw an interview with her some time ago, in which she said that she never wanted to be a mother to those, or any other children. She gave birth to them as a "gift" to Michael. A "gift" that has her sitting pretty for the rest of her life. It was only when she learned that she wasn't provided for in Michael's will did she suddenly have maternal stirrings.

norealityhere · 07-05-2009, 06:18 PM

I would kind of question Ms. Rowe's motives, as well.
She clearly stated she wanted no children numerous times in the past. Of even more concern is that she was paid $8.5 M for her services and yet she claimed not that long ago that she was in debt and needed $$ to pay off
$168K in credit card debt!! What??!!

The rock in that family has always been Katherine. Yes, 79 is not young, but it's pretty clear that she's one of the very few who would actually try to do well to honor Michael's wishes.

steppemaster · 07-05-2009, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by hutchlover

But they DON'T know the Jackson family, that's part of the problem. Michael kept them away from his family, except his mother - who is still married to Joe Jerkson and who is 79 years old. They know their cousins and Aunts/Uncles as much as they know Debbie.

I'm sorry, but IMO those kids would be better off with her than with ANY part of that dysfunctional family. (exception being Jermaine & Rebbie)

That's not what Germaine said in his extensive interview with Matt Lauer which was played on NBC "Dateline" on Friday night.

He talked about how well the kids got along with their cousins.

I don't know them personally so I don't have any eyewitness info on this to prove it--just putting out what Germaine said.

steppemaster · 07-05-2009, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kao

Steppenmaster: Sent it to you via message.

Katherine has been separated from Joe for the past few years (with good reason) so everything he is doing is on his own. With Jermaine, Janet and Tito on her side (who hate Joe with a passion) I don't think that she can be influenced too much. I think he also anticipated people fighting over the children because he also listed Diana Ross as guardian should his mother not be able to do so. They were very close, and the children have a relationship with her so it might be the better fit. In my opinion, the fact that she's the only person with enough class to not run to the nearest news outlet to sell MJ stories makes her tops in my book!

Debbie Rowe sold these children twice...no way in hell should she get them. They don't know her, and she doesn't want Blanket. That baffles me; Blanket is adorable. Who wouldn't want him?

Something to remember is that what is in a person's will is not "Law"--and especially in child custody cases it is up to the court to decide the best place for the children.

So--all these suggestions and tests etc etc are in a sense meaningless--because it is what reports are given to the judge by the appropriate investigators--and ultimately what the judge thinks--that are most important here.

So we'll just have to wait and see what the judge in the custody case decides.

(
And thanks so much for the info you sent!)

MsDiva2007 · 07-06-2009, 01:24 AM

I don't have a problem with Kathryn Jackson raising her Grandchildren. We live in a time when lots of Grandchildren are being reared by their Grandparents. Kathryn Jackson has the means to care for them and she can hire help as well alot of elderly grandparents can't afford to do that, Kathryn at least has that going for her. Debbie Rowe shouldn't be allowed more than visitation rights since she so eagerly gave her kids up.

Kao · 07-06-2009, 07:43 AM

But why should this woman get visitation at all? Unlike Katherine and Diana she has no relationship with these children other than popping them out!

steppemaster · 07-06-2009, 10:35 AM

Menntioned only briefly in passing on Access Hollywood last night--that Katheryn Jackson is "Challenging" Michael's will because of who he chose to be the trustees for the Michael Jackson Family Trust.

There was no additional info and no names were mentioned.
Has anyone heard anything about this challenge at all?
Thanks for any info.

07-04-2009, 08:16 PM	#291
prhoshay Signed, Sealed, Delivered Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Right Here, Right Now Posts: 13,799	Re: Michael Jackson is Dead at 50 yrs. of age So, when you said 'adorable', you were not talking about looks, but behavior? 'Adorable' has always addressed physical looks, to me, without clarification/specification. __________________ "...each affects the other, and the other affects the next, and the world is full of stories, but the stories are all one." - Mitch Albom, one helluva writer You are the only person responsible for your happiness.

07-04-2009, 08:55 PM	#292
Kao Treats, no Tricks Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,080	Re: Michael Jackson is Dead at 50 yrs. of age In hindsight, "A great kid all around" would have been a better thing to say. I should have been more clear, sorry!

07-04-2009, 09:38 PM	#293
hutchlover GO BUCKEYES! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Just moved to Chicago Posts: 1,141	Re: Michael Jackson is Dead at 50 yrs. of age I don't think there's any doubt she's not their biological mother (the eldest two). Prince Michael I looks exactly like her. And why would she voluntarily say she wants to do a DNA test to prove the case?

07-05-2009, 03:20 AM	#294
Bunny555 ♥ ♥ ♥ Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,460	Re: Michael Jackson is Dead at 50 yrs. of age Along with Joe, Debbie Rowe should be last on the list of best possible guardians/parents for those children. She has no relationship with them and sold any biological right to them long ago. I saw an interview with her some time ago, in which she said that she never wanted to be a mother to those, or any other children. She gave birth to them as a "gift" to Michael. A "gift" that has her sitting pretty for the rest of her life. It was only when she learned that she wasn't provided for in Michael's will did she suddenly have maternal stirrings.

07-05-2009, 06:18 PM	#295
norealityhere Remembering Zac Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3,522	Re: Michael Jackson is Dead at 50 yrs. of age I would kind of question Ms. Rowe's motives, as well. She clearly stated she wanted no children numerous times in the past. Of even more concern is that she was paid $8.5 M for her services and yet she claimed not that long ago that she was in debt and needed $$ to pay off $168K in credit card debt!! What??!! The rock in that family has always been Katherine. Yes, 79 is not young, but it's pretty clear that she's one of the very few who would actually try to do well to honor Michael's wishes. __________________ To Thine Own Self Be True

07-06-2009, 01:24 AM	#298
MsDiva2007 FORT Fogey Join Date: May 2007 Location: Del Mar, California Age: 47 Posts: 2,084	Re: Michael Jackson is Dead at 50 yrs. of age I don't have a problem with Kathryn Jackson raising her Grandchildren. We live in a time when lots of Grandchildren are being reared by their Grandparents. Kathryn Jackson has the means to care for them and she can hire help as well alot of elderly grandparents can't afford to do that, Kathryn at least has that going for her. Debbie Rowe shouldn't be allowed more than visitation rights since she so eagerly gave her kids up. __________________ Hello, You Play to win the game! Herm Edwards." Ms. Diva

07-06-2009, 07:43 AM	#299
Kao Treats, no Tricks Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,080	Re: Michael Jackson is Dead at 50 yrs. of age But why should this woman get visitation at all? Unlike Katherine and Diana she has no relationship with these children other than popping them out!

07-06-2009, 10:35 AM	#300
steppemaster FORT Fogey Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,229	Re: Michael Jackson is Dead at 50 yrs. of age Menntioned only briefly in passing on Access Hollywood last night--that Katheryn Jackson is "Challenging" Michael's will because of who he chose to be the trustees for the Michael Jackson Family Trust. There was no additional info and no names were mentioned. Has anyone heard anything about this challenge at all? Thanks for any info.