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    Quote Originally Posted by prhoshay View Post
    'ness, you know I love you, but I don't even begin to see how your scenario even compares with the lunacy that went on in GB. I can understand you wanting somebody to pay for what they have done, but we can't control what decisions others make; you and I have a sense of conscience, but that is not, necessarily, normal with all people. We all value different things, even though we think some things should be a given with people who weren't raised by jackals. A lot of times, we cannot control what other people decide to do....that's just a fact of life. Sounds like this woman was extremely fragile, and extremely fragile people don't always do well in this life.
    Gotcha.

    Acknowledged and noted, shay!

    No, extremely fragile people DON'T tend to do well in this life.

    And, yes, my head is spinning around at the thought of this woman having been blown away by this to the point that she'd DO something of this nature. I even said, in my "What if?" that I'd be reeling to find out later that somebody who'd stood around and did nothing to help my cousin ended it all over that, after the fact.

    "People who weren't raised by jackals . . ."

    Seems there're more and more people who WERE raised by jackals popping out of the woodwork, lately.

    Damn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prhoshay View Post
    Ridiculous. No doubt, people will blame the deejays for her suicide, but the only person to blame is HER. Sounds like she was probably ill-equipped to handle a lot of things....definitely her job, and who knows what else.
    I have to agree with you. She might have been a great nurse, but to kill oneself.... something was wrong to start with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bee stung lips View Post
    Sometimes the radio deejay pranks / activities do tend to go a bit too far, leaning toward the irresponsible, and sometimes completely dangerous. I remember the case from a few years back where some radio show put on a contest to win and Xbox or something like that (could be wrong about that), but the whole premise was that whoever drank the most water, won the prize, and a woman ended up dying from drinking too much water in her efforts to win the prize.
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    So do I. That was crazy. Water intoxication. You know, in cases of suicide, a lot of times it's something little that pushes the person over the edge. They take on a lot of larger things and then, there is that little straw that "breaks the camel's back"; it can even seem insignificant, but it's just enough. We have zero idea of what that woman had been going through in her life that led her down this road. Her family may know.....or nobody may know.
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    I agree shay. Plus Christmas is a very emotional time. People tend to stress out at this time of year.

    I feel sorry for her children.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ness View Post
    shay . . .

    I think I touched on, in my post above, that the receptionist/switchboard operator was the one who chose to take her life over this, apparently.

    And I have to acknowledge that I, too, wonder about what was going on with her that --- regardless of whether or not she wound up losing her job, etc., over this --- she was SO badly affected by her part in it that she felt it necessary to address her action in this manner.

    Still and all, regardless of WHERE in the world this happened, I'm sorry, but I still think/feel that the station, for one, and the DJs --- in particular --- should HAVE to face some sort of consequences for being the catalyst for the whole thing.

    If this had been me, you, Jane Doe on the street anywhere in the world, I'd STILL feel this way.

    There's joking and pranks, but there's also such a thing as "jokes" and "pranks" that are in poor taste, to begin with. And they're even MORE unfunny when those who started them continue to crow and bleat about them as if they've pulled off the coup of the year.

    For a parallel example . . .

    My older cousin is legally blind. Let's say she was walking along with her cane, was spotted by some hooligans, teenagers, etc., who thought it'd be funny to snatch her cane, then laugh as she waved around trying to find it. Let's say after laughing, whatever, they eventually threw it back to her. And later on, went around bragging about their "joke" or "prank" to any and everybody they crossed.

    I'd be mad as hell, and, honestly, can't say that I wouldn't at least call the police, if not go looking for them, THEN call the police.

    What if she'd stumbled and gotten hurt, or blundered into the path of an oncoming car and was seriously hurt, or killed? Either one might possibly have happened.

    And if I found out later that there were people who stood around and watched, BUT DID NOTHING TO HELP HER, I'd be even madder. I wouldn't expect one of them to commit suicide over not having done anything to help. But I'd still be reeling if I found out later on that a person who'd watched and done nothing to stop it had been so devastated they'd taken their own life out of shame, guilt, whatever.

    I'd STILL want the idiots who snatched her cane in the first place to have to answer for what they did, though.

    Just some thoughts.
    Big difference, in my opinion. In the example you cited with regard to your cousin, there are arguably a few crimes involved. Assault and battery are the first two that come to mind, depending on the circumstances and if there is contact. Also, not sure if every state has them, but here in MI, we have hate crime legislation. I think in CA too, since I remember something about this on TMZ recently. Crimes against homeless or others who are different can be pushed into the hate crime category, depending on the underlying intent.

    In Kate's situation, yes, it was in horribly poor taste. But was it a crime? I don't know about the laws in England. Over here, I'm not sure what it would be - unless you want to try and get into negligent or intentional infliction of emotional distress - which are hard to prove. These DJs will continue to do this as long as people listen to them and support them. The nurse, whole other story. I don't even know what they said to her to get her to put the call through - but as mentioned earlier, I think "official" people would have a code word or other ways to protect from this sort of thing. So my gut tells me she didn't follow procedures and that is probably why there were ramifications for her (like losing her job). Does it make it any less of a tragedy? Absolutely not. But is it the DJs fault that she killed herself? No.
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    She wasn't going to lose her job over this. The hospital just said as much.

    I think the DJ's have to take some responsibility, that for such a stupid prank, this could be the outcome - that's all. Give it some thought, for those involved. Be it this nurse, or Kate herself. It would be a damn shame had Kate lost the baby over this! My goodness, the DJ;s would go into hiding I'm sure

    It was 5.30 in the morning,. and when you have been on shift all night, you are tired.My thought is she didn't follow protocol. Its still a bloody shame .

    Now of course the media have to dig up all they know about this nurse, and round and round we go.
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    Re: Miscellaneous Celebrity News

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    She wasn't going to lose her job over this. The hospital just said as much.
    Just playing devil's advocate here, but part of me wonders if the hospital is claiming only after the fact, just to lessen any blame they may or may not be (unjustifiably) feeling regarding the nurse's suicide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fanny Mare View Post
    She wasn't going to lose her job over this. The hospital just said as much.

    I think the DJ's have to take some responsibility, that for such a stupid prank, this could be the outcome - that's all. Give it some thought, for those involved. Be it this nurse, or Kate herself. It would be a damn shame had Kate lost the baby over this! My goodness, the DJ;s would go into hiding I'm sure

    It was 5.30 in the morning,. and when you have been on shift all night, you are tired.My thought is she didn't follow protocol. Its still a bloody shame .

    Now of course the media have to dig up all they know about this nurse, and round and round we go.
    If they have a conscience, sure. But there are people who think what they did is hilarious. There are people out there supporting them. Because of that, it will continue. Sad, but true.
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    Well the DJ's have not gone back to their jobs, so someone has had a sober second thought

    Just playing devil's advocate here, but part of me wonders if the hospital is claiming only after the fact, just to lessen any blame they may or may not be (unjustifiably) feeling regarding the nurse's suicide.
    I thought about that BSL. they said they were helping her cope with this. So I think( jmho) she was having a very hard time with it
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