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    JMHO about the Harry brouhaha . . .

    Like Harry, I do. On the surface of it, he seems a very caring, personable, fun-loving young man.

    Problem is, he was born into a position and lifestyle that marked him from the day he was born, which will follow him to his grave. He didn't ask for that --- may, in fact, not have even wanted, or WANTS, it --- but there it is.

    Never been in his shoes (THANK GOD!), but I can understand (or TRY to, at least!) that there are times that he wants to be "just like everybody else". But he's not, and never will be. Even if he decided to try to walk away from his birthright, quit the Palace, the "Firm", etc., and go to some other country and try to live and work "anonymously", he'll never be able to do that.

    Which brings me to this thought . . .

    He's not an assisted-living resident, on a walker, in a wheelchair, or rumored to be a victim of dementia. BUT, I DO believe he's old enough --- by now --- to have sussed out that inviting strangers (apparently) back to your hotel room, for a rousing game of strip pool, or anything else, for that matter, ain't exactly the SMARTEST move in the world. ESPECIALLY if you happen to be a Prince of England who just happens to be third in line to the throne of your country (at this point, anyway). Where was his brain and/or his reasoning? AWOL, apparently. So . . . the man can pilot aircraft but not figure that out? I mean, come on, even if you happen to be Joe or Jane Nobody, pulling a stunt like that could be permanently hazardous to your health and well-being. NOT just something that will set you up for local/national/international embarrassment when it gets out.

    Now let me take Harry's brain --- or lack of --- out of the picture, for a quick second . . .

    WHERE IN THE NAME OF TIME WERE HIS "HANDLERS", "PROTECTORS" OR SECURITY PEOPLE DURING THIS? Did they not have the common sense to figure out that this might not be the smartest move for Harry to make, given who he happens to be? AND the fact that everybody and his brother has access to cameras, nowadays, and WILL use them? Why did none of them --- if they were going to allow this to go on, at least --- request or demand the turnover of every cellphone in the posse BEFOREHAND (OK, so some famemonger COULD have STILL sneaked one in; I WILL grant that!)? And the immediate ouster of anyone who refused to comply? IS THIS THE TYPE OF "SECURITY" THAT BRITISH TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING FOR, FOR THEIR ROYAL PERSONAGES? Or, were these "security" people so afraid of Harry and/or his position in the royal pecking order that nobody wanted to challenge him and "just say no" to this lunacy? If THAT'S the case, methinks they seriously need to clean house in his Security Division, starting from the top, and going right on down through to the most lowly junior person. And then get people in there who will do their job, no matter WHAT the person they're protecting is saying.

    I'm blaming Harry's lack of judgement and common sense in the FIRST place. AND his Security Division's lack of reasonable guts/actions, and so on, for failing to put the kibosh on this in the SECOND place. Or, at LEAST doing or TRYING to do some hopefully effective damage control on this BEFORE it went down the tubes, in the second place.

    The fallout . . .

    As everybody knows by now, Harry has been called onto the Royal Carpet. Fair enough, I think.

    The Queen. Were I Harry, I'd most likely be quaking in my boots at the thought of being dressed down by her for this. To me, what would be even worse than a dressing-down would be for her to express disappointment in me for my actions. I would have a hard, hard time coming to terms with that one.

    Prince Charles. I'm sorry, but I burst out laughing at news and Net reports about this occurring, if it has or will. Father or not, this is the man that cheated on Harry's mother when they were married, with his current wife? This is ALSO the man that was taped making more than racy statements to this lady over the phone that were released all over England and Hell's Half Acre, for EVERYBODY to hear and jeer at? Please. Pot, meet kettle. Were I Harry, there wouldn't be too much --- if anything at all --- that he'd say about this that I could or would take too seriously.

    Military backlash. If the LEAST that happens to him is a formal reprimand, he's gotten off damned lucky with what, to me, would be just a slap on the wrist. Far as I know at this point, nothing's been said or hinted at regarding Harry being removed from service, busted down in rank, or so on. My belief is that if a formal military reprimand is all he winds up getting (if he hasn't already), he can thank his lucky stars that he's Royal. Because frankly, were that not the case, I think he'd be flayed alive by the MoD before being summarily dishonorably dismissed altogether.

    Everybody's human. Stuff happens. On BOTH sides of the pond (remember those Secret Service Agents that were making merry with hookers while working a Presidential detail, and the firestorm that resulted from that?).

    The good thing that might come out of this is that Harry --fun-loving, apparently down-to-earth person that he is --- may finally be able to take a step back from himself and realize that, though he had no choice or say in the circumstances of his life, it IS a life that he's wedded to, forever. He still needs to grow up, and hopefully, this latest incident might be the catalyst for that change.

    Hopefully.

    I say: "You GO Harry!!!!!! As much as you can, HAVE your fun!"

    But, PLEASE learn to do so in a responsible, reasonable way.

    And speaking of "wedded"?

    It would not surprise me in the least --- after this --- if Harry "suddenly" wound up engaged and married in the not-too-distant future!

    Just random thoughts, observations, and MHO.

    ETA . . .

    My good thoughts, best wishes and prayers go out to Prince Philip, too.
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    WHERE IN THE NAME OF TIME WERE HIS "HANDLERS", "PROTECTORS" OR SECURITY PEOPLE DURING THIS
    Partying with him. Which is why they are under fire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fanny Mare View Post
    Partying with him. Which is why they are under fire.
    Oh God have mercy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ness View Post
    Problem is, he was born into a position and lifestyle that marked him from the day he was born, which will follow him to his grave. He didn't ask for that --- may, in fact, not have even wanted, or WANTS, it --- but there it is.
    No, he didn't ask for that. And that being the case, I say go Harry, be free. You'd certainly never catch me adhering to some protocol I had foisted upon me against my will.
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    Emily Maynard Cheating Rumors Not True, Says The Bachelorette : People.com

    Emily Maynard and Jef Holm Stand By Cheating Denial : People.com

    Here are two articles from People regarding the "Emily cheating scandal". The same day they talked to People for the first article, both Jef and Emily escorted Ricki to her first day of school and then were photographed shopping at a grocery store. There was no scandal, cheating or otherwise, though hard feelings toward family may linger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattus View Post
    No, he didn't ask for that. And that being the case, I say go Harry, be free. You'd certainly never catch me adhering to some protocol I had foisted upon me against my will.
    He's never going to leave and not just because of the money and prestige. He loves his family. Many of us wouldn't want to live like that, but Harry doesn't know any different. His whole life has been like that. Whether he likes it or not, that's his life. I think he has so many good qualities. I'll be sad if he turns into the joke of the royal family like Prince Albert and his porn star girlfriends.
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    Excellent post, Ness! You sure have a way with words.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rattus View Post
    No, he didn't ask for that. And that being the case, I say go Harry, be free. You'd certainly never catch me adhering to some protocol I had foisted upon me against my will.
    If you didn't know any different, how would you be able to say that? You do live/adhere to laws of society do you not? You drive the speed limit? Don't use a cell phone while driving? Wear a seat belt? Don't murder those who tick you off? Aren't those foisted upon you against your will? (For some reason, I picture you as a female James Dean though, is that weird? LOL)

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    I'll be sad if he turns into the joke of the royal family like Prince Albert and his porn star girlfriends.
    Who is making more of a fuss about things like this? Americans/British or other Europeans? I think that this story is getting press because Harry is royalty but are his acts all that scandalous overseas? Same with Albert or even Randy Andy? Sex/nudity aren't the big taboo they are on this side of the ocean. Or are royal families held to a higher standard no matter where they reside?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JunkieGirl View Post
    Who is making more of a fuss about things like this? Americans/British or other Europeans? I think that this story is getting press because Harry is royalty but are his acts all that scandalous overseas? Same with Albert or even Randy Andy? Sex/nudity aren't the big taboo they are on this side of the ocean. Or are royal families held to a higher standard no matter where they reside?
    Well, I don't think the Brits are seeing the pics, at least not in the UK press because the Queen has forbidden publishing of the pics in the press there. The British press is pretty notorious for the horrid stories they publish. I remember all the stories when Albert was dating the porn star (Koo Stark?). I think the royals are held to a higher standard....and maybe that means that people take more delight in their misfortunes or misadventures. I also think, because we don't have a royal family, we don't quite understand it. For us, it's just more celebrities.
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    Wasn't it a British scandal rag that showed the totally nude pic??

    You know, this wouldn't be funny if it were MY child but, since it's not, it's hilarious!! Boys will be boys.
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    I would love to party with Harry.
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