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    Even though I don't watch the show, I've often wondered how Jon Cryer et. al. feel every time they hear that without Charlie, there is no show. It's called Two and a Half Men, right? Not Charlie Sheen and a Bunch of People He Carries.

    And while I admittedly don't watch the show, I've seen Holland Taylor and Conchetta Ferrell's other work, and I know they are talented. Also, wasn't Jon Cryer nominated for an Emmy for his work on the show? Somebody must have noticed him creeping out from behind Charlie Sheen's shadow too.

    Charlie has clearly completely jumped the tracks, and I feel bad for his family that they have to stand there watching it. Short of having him committed, they really can't stop him if he doesn't want to be stopped. I heard someone asking Dr. Drew about the situation. I have no idea whether Dr. Drew has had any direct contact with Charlie or not, but he seemed to be implying there might be something else at work here, such as manic-depression. I don't know if that's an accurate description or not, but he does sometimes seem very manic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tilden View Post
    I don't know if that's an accurate description or not, but he does sometimes seem very manic.
    Cocaine makes you manic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tilden View Post
    Even though I don't watch the show, I've often wondered how Jon Cryer et. al. feel every time they hear that without Charlie, there is no show. It's called Two and a Half Men, right? Not Charlie Sheen and a Bunch of People He Carries.

    And while I admittedly don't watch the show, I've seen Holland Taylor and Conchetta Ferrell's other work, and I know they are talented. Also, wasn't Jon Cryer nominated for an Emmy for his work on the show? Somebody must have noticed him creeping out from behind Charlie Sheen's shadow too.

    Charlie has clearly completely jumped the tracks, and I feel bad for his family that they have to stand there watching it. Short of having him committed, they really can't stop him if he doesn't want to be stopped. I heard someone asking Dr. Drew about the situation. I have no idea whether Dr. Drew has had any direct contact with Charlie or not, but he seemed to be implying there might be something else at work here, such as manic-depression. I don't know if that's an accurate description or not, but he does sometimes seem very manic.
    Not all that long ago, after Charlie's porn star hotel room break down, Jon (who won the Emmy in 2009) was on Conan and talked about this. He joked that he checks TMZ every morning to see if he has to go to work that morning. He kept the discussion pretty light, but it was obvious that it was kind of out of hand. Jon and the rest of the cast (aside from the kid) have long careers, so this is probably more than annoying. Character actors in particular can't afford to NOT be professional on set. Apparently, Charlie thinks he can do whatever he wants because he's considered more of a lead.

    For all the talk about what a pain in the ass Russell Crow is (and I honestly don't care because I love him), he's openly talked about how he has no right to show up late or keep people waiting on set. He says he's just one part of the whole movie and is lucky to be there getting paid to act and it's disrespectful to waste anyone's time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tilden View Post
    Charlie has clearly completely jumped the tracks, and I feel bad for his family that they have to stand there watching it. Short of having him committed, they really can't stop him if he doesn't want to be stopped. I heard someone asking Dr. Drew about the situation. I have no idea whether Dr. Drew has had any direct contact with Charlie or not, but he seemed to be implying there might be something else at work here, such as manic-depression. I don't know if that's an accurate description or not, but he does sometimes seem very manic.
    Mental illness and drug abuse often go hand-in-hand. If you're ordered to drug and alcohol counseling, you get a psych evaluation too in a lot of places, automatically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norealityhere View Post
    It was good of CBS / Warner Bros. to stop production at this time.
    Charlie needs to cool down and realize he's gotten out of control.
    Chuck Lorre, however, is not without blame here; nor is it the first time he's had problems with actors. And, yes, he does bait and enable Charlie. Sad, but true.
    More than likely, though, the show will come back next season and Charlie will return.
    America and Hollywood love "comebacks."
    Not too long ago, Robert Downey, Jr. was in just as bad shape; if not worse. He's doing pretty well these days, though.

    While I agree the rest of the 2 1/2 Men cast is really good, having the show without Charlie is just not going to happen.
    Let me first say, I know absolutely nothing about Chuck Lorre but Charlie's angry vitriol directed at him was over the top and unnecessary.
    I've only watched a handful of the shows but I think Charlie can be replaced and should be but the bottom line is the almighty dollar. Won't matter if Charlie was totally out of line. There should be limits on how low a person can go attacking his employers but they'll bring him back if it means the money will keep rolling in.
    Sometimes stars are let go if the insurance company feels he's too much of a liability and I would think Charlie fits that bill, for sure.

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    Rumors are already floating about a replacement for him. Sure there are denials, but where there's smoke......

    I don't watch the show, my parents do and love it. There is a strong cast as the above poster said, not just Charlie Sheen.

    Meanwhile, Mr. Sheen is on vacation with his ex and 2 porn stars.
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    Mr. Rattus and I were discussing the show this morning due to an article in the paper about this situation. We decided between ourselves that Charlie's character should leave for some reason to be determined, and Herb (Ryan Stiles) should divorce Judith and move in with Alan (Jon Cryer) at the Malibu house, thereby having both of Judith's ex-husbands living together.
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    I'm still trying to figure out why he's not still in rehab. No way could he have successfully completed treatment in that short of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JavaJo View Post
    I'm still trying to figure out why he's not still in rehab. No way could he have successfully completed treatment in that short of time.
    He was in "at home" rehab. So that went well...

    There are a lot of rumours floating around that Charlie may struggle with Bi-polar disorder (on top of his many addictions). Either way, he is not getting the help he needs.

    I feel sorry most for the crew that works on his show. Most of the writers are working on other Chuck Lorre shows, but the crew and cast are stuck without anything and not knowing what next year will bring are stuck without the option of attempting to find new work.

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    Unless someone has been declared mentally incompetent, they cannot be made to go to rehab. Especially in Charlie's case, since he hasn't been convicted of anything, like a drug-related offense that would force him to choose between jail or rehab. An adult can't be made to go into rehab involuntarily. Unless someone is able to get through to him, he'll either stop drugs and get some help or he'll die. My feeling is that he'll be dead soon. He looks absolutely dreadful....like a junkie, which is what he is.

    I had a boyfriend whose brother was just getting out of rehab when I met him. He was VERY spacey and out of it, even months after he went into rehab. It took at least 6 months for him to sound and act normally, i.e. not like he was brain damaged or stoned. I think his brain needed that time to "rewire" itself. He'd o.d.'ed on LSD and used it and other hallucinogenics regularly. If Charlie Sheen quits using crack, who's to say that his brain won't do the same thing?

    I'd love to see a new actor brought in to replace Charlie. The show might be better and all those people would still have jobs. The actors would likely be fine if it was canceled, but the crew might have trouble.
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