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I've got to say the actions of Charlie are beginning to really reflect back into me respecting Martin Sheen a bit less now. While its true that Charlie is a big boy, and hasn't answered to his parents in 25+ years... nevertheless I find myself wondering what Marty's been doing to try and stop this once and for all.
well, I ready that Martin Sheen was who convinced him to enter rehab. Charlie is a big boy and you can not blame dad for Charile. Emelio the other son has not been in the news at all so that premise that Martin is the cause is wrong. Sorry but I think Martin Sheen is great
Once they are grown, there isn't much the parents can do. They can't force them into rehab or ground them. All you can do is hope and pray they find their way out of the hole they are in. Martin has zero control over Charlie.Originally Posted by Krom;4170601;
That's not the point. I acknowledged that Marty can't make Charlie do anything, anything at all. But Marty is in a unique position most parents of drug abusers aren't. He's got the ears of the world. And while I'd normally say that speaking to the world at large about your family problems is a big no no, the cat is already out of the bag (out of the country even) in terms of the Sheen/Estevez family dignity. That ship has sailed. If Charlie won't listen to a judge, if he won't listen to his publicist, his agent, his studio, his girlfriends and ex-wives, his kids, his brother and his father, then maybe the next step is for his family to stop sitting back behind their illusion of normalcy (plenty of incidental news stories out there about Marty going to such and such a public function, or him writing a book with Emilio, etc.) and screw how giving an interview might affect Charlie's desirability as a sitcom star. Use every kind of pressure he can, including public, to get it through Charlie's thick skull that he's going to die, and that his loving public certainly isn't going to stand by and wait for him while he decides how he's going. Not now, since Charlie's in rehab, but in the inevitable "next time" we all know will come.
He can also do what the Spears family did and get Charlie declared incompetent. Its radical and may kill Charlie's career (although maybe not--it didn't with Brit-Brit), and the Spears family are hardly the overall models we'd use for most things, but clearly Charlie isn't capable of rational thought right now. What's his career next to his life?
Charlie is in rehab now, sure. But it may just be a holding pattern. If there's a repeat of this next year, for example, then I hope Marty and the whole family acts swiftly and decisively that time.
I see your point, but Charlie is so unpredictable who knows how he would react to his father making a public statement? If backfired when Mr. Lohan started blabbing to the press. Lindsey just partied harder. And Britney....that was a bit different. I don't think she was snorting cocaine on a daily basis. She actually had a breakdown. Charlie I don't believe is crazy. He's just addicted. I don't know if Charlie could be rendered incompetent for drug use only. If so, then yes, I agree. Martin should try that route.
Martin Sheen and Emilio Estevez are collaborating on a movie and a book together, and it almost seems formed with Charlie in mind. Maybe that's playing a part in this latest meltdown.
Can Martin Sheen, Emilio Show Charlie The Way? - FishbowlLACan Martin Sheen, Emilio Show Charlie The Way?
By Richard Horgan on January 28, 2011 9:00 AM
This week’s episode of Two and Half Porn Stars featuring Charlie Sheen, a hernia and the alleged home delivery of a “briefcase full of cocaine” suggests that the highest paid TV actor in Hollywood continues to ignore the difference between “the life we live and the live we choose.”
That’s not some hokey life-mantra from FishbowlLA. It’s actually a pivotal line of dialogue brother Emilio Estevez‘s character utters via flashback in the upcoming Easter movie The Way, the story of a dad (Martin Sheen, pictured) who ventures to Spain to recover the dead body of his son. The drama is Estevez’s first writer-director effort since 2006′s critically acclaimed Bobby.
We’re struck not only by the fact that it is the saner Sheen sibling who is working with previous TMZ bad boy Mel Gibson (Icon Entertainment is a participant in The Way), but also by the now more-weirdly-dissonant-than-ever parallel collaboration between Martin and Emilio. In concert with the movie, the pair are also finalizing a book for the Free Print imprint of Simon & Schuster, Along the Way. The tome, set for Father’s Day release, is a “dual memoir told in the alternating voices of father and son.”
Estevez almost sounded like he was talking to his brother when he explained the gist of the book in the Simon & Schuster press release. “We hope that our story will communicate an essential message for our times: Film is an illusion. Fame is ephemeral. Faith and family are what endure.” The actor separately told USA Today that Charlie will only be mentioned in passing in the book.
Another strange current Sheen family dichotomy is that while Charlie tries to drink Hollywood under the table, Emilio is having quiet success with his Malibu winery Casa Dumetz. Let’s hope he and-or pops can help Charlie finally vacate “Casa Dumb Ass.”
In the pastMartin and his wife certainly did everything within their power to help their son, including having him arrested for possession and thrown in jail, where Charlie was then sent to rehab. I distinctly remember Martin Sheen crying as he made a statement that by having his son prosecuted (instead of bailing him out ) he was trying to save his son's life.
At some point the family must remove themselves from the situation for their own emotional survival and so they don't fall into a pattern of enabling.
Charlie Sheen is responsible for Charlie Sheen, If he chooses to seriously pursue sobriety for his multitude of addictions then good for him. Blaming family members for not `helping' is incredibly painful for the thousands of friends and families who each year watch on helpless as those they love choose their addictions over their families. The families feel guilt ridden enough, since society believes you can love someone out of their addictions (not true). Sometimes, for the psychological survival of the family, they have to walk away from the addict and let the addict face the repercussions for their behavior. Charlie has hurt not only himslef, but his parents, his siblings, his children and that's only for starters.
Survivor creator Mark Burnett on his shows enduring popularity: " It is a morality tale." from the www.emmytvlegends.org interview archives
As I wrote Sheen most certainly spoke to the world several years ago, regarding Charlie. I see him as an incredible parent, along with his wife who do not deserve judgment from strangers in regards to saving Charlie from himself. We have no idea what this family has endured because of Charlie Sheen's decades long addictions. Is the whole family supposed to have spent every waking moment of their lives focused soley on Charlie? What about the rest of the family and their needs? It's exhausting and and draining dealing with an addict , let alone one whose dealt with multiple addictions for decades. Look, Charlie isn't only an addict he has issues with women, he 's been arrested for domestic violence on several occasions and back in the 90's he `accidentally' shot his girlfriend in the arm.
Is the entire Sheen family supposed to give up their lives completely and just focus on Charlie? That's unhealthy and unfair to Sheen and the entire clan. They deserve to have their own lives and they deserve happiness.
I also know that Martin acted as peacemaker during his sons divorce from Denise Richards, taking them both to task for turning their divorce into a public fight. He also met with Denise Richards in order to hammer out a peaceable agreement regarding how to handle a civil custody agreement so that the grandkids wouldn't be used as leverage by either side.
Survivor creator Mark Burnett on his shows enduring popularity: " It is a morality tale." from the www.emmytvlegends.org interview archives
Christina Applegate (39) and fiance Martyn LeNoble (41) welcomed Sadie Grace LeNoble on Thursday, January 27th.
We used to have a thread about celebrity baby names, but I can't find it. This one is actually quite pleasant in my opinion.
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