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Old 01-11-2008, 09:53 AM   #1081
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Well, I don't think you wear a pink wig if you're trying to hide. Please send this girl some help!
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Old 01-11-2008, 03:02 PM   #1082
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I think the mistake Britney's family made with respect to Dr. Phil is that they expected him NOT to behave like someone out for himself. I have NO doubt that they contacted him because they probably think he's the greatest shrink in the world. News stories have mentioned how Jamie Spears practically worshipped Dr. Phil. I don't think they wanted the publicity so much as they thought he could really help Britney. They just didn't count on him trying to turn it into a profitable situation for himself. I don't love or hate Dr. Phil, but this was definitely opportunism at its finest. That being said, he was invited to the party by some very naive and ignorant people.
Just to play devil's advocte, because Dr. Phil has been soooo skewered over this mess....Why, if you truly wanted things kept out of the media, would you bring in a TV doc? Surely if the Spears wanted real help for Brit, and she certainly needs it, they could have found an excellent, reputable, discreet psychiatrist to help her. IMO, calling in Dr. Phil is indicative of the entire problem of this trainwreck of a family. Dr. Phil may be a fine doc (and I may be reaching.....) but there are certainly plenty of qualified docs who would come with none of the celebrity and all it entails. Really, what were they thinking? Massive celebrity and constant media scrutiny have played a huge part in Brit's illness, so of course, the way to fix her is to bring in more attention by having a celebrity doctor come to visit her in the hospital which is already swarming with paparazzi Granted, Dr. Phil shouldn't have said anything. But part of me really feels like you get what you pay for. The Spears family should never have set that situation up. They had to realize he was going to be photographed and interviewed. In fact, I think they were very aware of it. For better or worse, I think they thrive on it. As much of a famewh*** as the good doctor is, I find it hard to believe that there wasn't a kernel of truth in some of what he said. Whether or not he should have said anything at all, at time he did, is another issue.
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Old 01-11-2008, 04:04 PM   #1083
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I just read on TMZ that Kevin is getting the fire fighters and emergency personnel to testify at the custody hearing on Monday. It seems as though they have not so nice things to say.

My guess is she's not going to show up to court and the judge is going to be mad.
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Old 01-11-2008, 04:29 PM   #1084
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Just to play devil's advocte, because Dr. Phil has been soooo skewered over this mess....Why, if you truly wanted things kept out of the media, would you bring in a TV doc? Surely if the Spears wanted real help for Brit, and she certainly needs it, they could have found an excellent, reputable, discreet psychiatrist to help her. IMO, calling in Dr. Phil is indicative of the entire problem of this trainwreck of a family. Dr. Phil may be a fine doc (and I may be reaching.....) but there are certainly plenty of qualified docs who would come with none of the celebrity and all it entails. Really, what were they thinking? Massive celebrity and constant media scrutiny have played a huge part in Brit's illness, so of course, the way to fix her is to bring in more attention by having a celebrity doctor come to visit her in the hospital which is already swarming with paparazzi Granted, Dr. Phil shouldn't have said anything. But part of me really feels like you get what you pay for. The Spears family should never have set that situation up. They had to realize he was going to be photographed and interviewed. In fact, I think they were very aware of it. For better or worse, I think they thrive on it. As much of a famewh*** as the good doctor is, I find it hard to believe that there wasn't a kernel of truth in some of what he said. Whether or not he should have said anything at all, at time he did, is another issue.
Exactly! They couldn't go to anyone else, no, they had to have the tv doctor to help their daughter. Stop. please, just stop. Phil owed no loyalty to Brandine seeing as he wasn't her treating Psychologist, plus, what he said was extremely general and what's been said for months. She needs help. He didn't set up a press conference, the paps were there because they knew she was there.
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Just to play devil's advocte, because Dr. Phil has been soooo skewered over this mess....Why, if you truly wanted things kept out of the media, would you bring in a TV doc? Surely if the Spears wanted real help for Brit, and she certainly needs it, they could have found an excellent, reputable, discreet psychiatrist to help her. IMO, calling in Dr. Phil is indicative of the entire problem of this trainwreck of a family. Dr. Phil may be a fine doc (and I may be reaching.....) but there are certainly plenty of qualified docs who would come with none of the celebrity and all it entails. Really, what were they thinking? Massive celebrity and constant media scrutiny have played a huge part in Brit's illness, so of course, the way to fix her is to bring in more attention by having a celebrity doctor come to visit her in the hospital which is already swarming with paparazzi Granted, Dr. Phil shouldn't have said anything. But part of me really feels like you get what you pay for. The Spears family should never have set that situation up. They had to realize he was going to be photographed and interviewed. In fact, I think they were very aware of it. For better or worse, I think they thrive on it. As much of a famewh*** as the good doctor is, I find it hard to believe that there wasn't a kernel of truth in some of what he said. Whether or not he should have said anything at all, at time he did, is another issue.
The way I see it, the Spears family approached this like the rubes they are. Because they are not a family of deep thinkers, they fell prey to the same disease that strikes a lot of (pardon the phrase) the unwashed masses--they believe what they see on TV too easily.

Dr. Phil appeals to a lot of people who assume he knows what he's doing simply because Oprah told them he does (and yes, I hope this bites her back on the butt a bit too). The Spears are probably just as vulnerable to this as anyone else. Maybe moreso.

He also appeals to humanity's impatient nature. He's all about confrontations and "interventions". Instead of the careful, more deliberate process someone like Britney probably needs. But there's a seductiveness to his approach in that it tempts people to think there's a quick fix. Lynne Spears would love that I bet, so Britney doesn't have to go into years of therapy exploring how badly her momma failed her when she was growing up.
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Old 01-11-2008, 04:43 PM   #1086
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I think its funny that Britney's new boy toy, the papparazzi guy, is getting a dose of his own medicine. He's now on the receiving end of the harrassment....

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Old 01-11-2008, 05:19 PM   #1087
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Well, all Dr. Phil has really said is that Britney needs help, which is very apparent to anyone who watched the video of her strapped down and being loaded into an ambulance. Obviously he's dying to have the chance to "treat" her, because if he is given the chance, it would be a huge feather in his cap professionally (his profession as both a TV personality and a psychologist) if she ended up showing improvement. Actually, I think it's a big risk on his part - she could very easily end up self-destructing instead of changing for the better.

I think people turn to Dr. Phil for a variety of reasons - not being able to afford to seek conventional treatment is a big one, I think. Apparently he does provide ongoing assistance for at least some of his guests on the show. (Few guests are in the kind of dire situation Britney Spears is in, though.) I'm assuming cost is not an issue for the Spears family, though, and it's impossible to see their contacting Dr. Phil as anything but rank opportunism.

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But part of me really feels like you get what you pay for.
That pretty much sums up the way I feel. The Spears family seems to be spending a lot more time talking to the media than they do procuring help for their child. They couldn't possibly be naive enough to think that they would be able to contact a celebrity to "help" their daughter and keep it out of the media.
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Brit to Cops -- "I'm F***ing Hot"
Posted Jan 11th 2008 4:12PM by TMZ Staff

Law enforcement sources have told TMZ about the craziness in Britney's house the night she was committed. It involves profanity, nudity, drugs and wild mood swings.

Sources say when the cops showed up, Britney was locked in the master bathroom with Jayden James. Officers saw Britney from the backyard holding Jayden, who did not appear to be upset. Britney refused to come out for nearly three hours. When she did, all she was wearing was panties. Britney was incoherent, screaming at the cops, "What the f*** are you doing in my house? I know who you are." She continued ranting, "I don't need your f***ing help." At one point Britney, whose moods swung wildly from laughter to rage to sobs, hollered, "You will do as I say."

At some point Britney put on a see-through nightgown. Before police took her outside, they wanted to cover her with a sweater, and she screamed, "Don't cover me up. I'm f***ing hot."

Britney's assistant and nanny were present during the standoff. At one point the assistant told the police that Britney had been "popping pills" all day. Her code for medication was "vitamins" and she repeatedly demanded, "Get me my vitamins!" Officers found a bottle of Prozac in her bedroom.

Sam Lutfi arrived and told officers that he and the others around Britney "knew this was coming for a long time," but didn't know how bad it would be.

The assistant also told cops that earlier in the day, Britney showed no concern about attending her deposition and would not heed her warnings to show up on time.

Sam told law enforcement that Britney had been extremely unstable and had recently purchased a house in Malibu on a whim, began moving furniture in and then changed her mind.

As for Jayden James, the reason cops took him to the hospital was because there was a small bruise on his leg. Britney insisted the bruise occurred on Kevin's watch. Police took Jayden to Cedars as a precautionary measure.

We're told police will testify about the insanity at Monday's custody hearing.

And one more thing -- the nanny told cops that Britney would frequently dress up to the nines for no reason. She would walk around the house and change back.
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Heard of this before. The court appointed monitor said exactly this during a visit at Brandine's home.
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I think people turn to Dr. Phil for a variety of reasons - not being able to afford to seek conventional treatment is a big one, I think. Apparently he does provide ongoing assistance for at least some of his guests on the show. (Few guests are in the kind of dire situation Britney Spears is in, though.) I'm assuming cost is not an issue for the Spears family, though, and it's impossible to see their contacting Dr. Phil as anything but rank opportunism.
It's been well discussed in the media, and on here even, that Lynne Spears is close friends with Dr. Phil's wife, Robin McGraw. Lynne asking Dr. Phil to help her was probably nothing more than her reaching out to a *qualified* friend to help her daughter.

Not well thought out, no. But desperate people do desperate, and stupid, things. Dr. Phil is the one that made a zoo out of this situation, not Lynne Spears for asking someone for help. I am sure that Lynne Spears and Britney's father have reached out to other professionals for help (as they have indicated in interviews), but no doctor is going to take on this situation when the patient so obviously does not want help.
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